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PostPosted: 22-12-2011 18:48    Post subject: Chopper the Poltergeist Reply with quote

There was a bit in the back page of FT 284 about Chopper, the German dentist's surgery poltergeist of the 1980s, and there's a clip of a German TV show about him on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5zHt23dZi8

Could any of the board's German speakers translate? Especially that bit where we apparently hear Chopper speak. Is an actual recording of this talkative spirit or a recreation? Thanks.
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PostPosted: 24-12-2011 18:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite fascinated too, but none of the german people I could ask are into spooky stuff.

This from Google news archive though

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/BlackRiverFalls/chopper.jpg

Which doesn;t sound too great for it.
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PostPosted: 24-12-2011 18:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I had heard about that end to the case, but wasn't there an aftermath where those fined still claimed they had nothing to do with it, protesting their innocence? And it's never made very clear how the dentist was able to throw his voice into the pipes even if he did do it.
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PostPosted: 24-12-2011 18:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only other link I could find is a bit woo woo but here goes:

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The Chopper Case.

This case centers around a dentist, Dr Kurt Bachseitz, in Neutraubling, Germany and his young assistant Claudia Judenmann, a minor, who was the battery that provided the psychic power for phenomena which lasted almost a year. The postal authorities (whose responsibility is the German telephone system) tried by every possible technical means to find a rational explanation for this voice phenomenon. The deep male voice of a spirit calling himself "Chopper" was constantly heard on the telephone, even after the line was replaced. In fact, when the line was cut, the voice could still be heard on the phone!

We do not want to get into the silly explanations of journalists and "scientists." The physicist Dr Wolfgang Ehrenberg of Munich, Germany, came closer to the core of the phenomenon when he wrote:

The only sensible question was never asked: Who has lived or worked in this house before it was rebuilt.

In his letter to the dentist he wrote:

Most likely we are dealing with a being who does not know that he has arrived in the spirit world. One should try to enlighten him about his true situation. Since the phenomenon started to occur after the rebuilding, we can assume it originates from someone who lived here or worked here. Since Chopper knows the electrician Herbert Reinsch and the window painter, he could not have been on the other side too long. Ask these two if they knew someone who fits Chopper's description of himself! Should my assumptions be correct I would recommend putting an ad in several newspapers to find a psychic who could get in touch with him and teach him the realities of his new life.

These are the thoughts of a true and open-minded researcher, in contrast to the many short-sighted explanations by "specialists." During the eight-hour hearing, only recommendations for psychiatric examination were considered. The judge turned down every other argument as "nonsense." The superficial thinking of people is demonstrated by the fact that most readers believed the nonsensical explanations of the mass media.


It sounds a lot like a Delicatessen style fraud using the plumbing that people somehow mistook for coming over the phone.

Still have no idea if the Chopper audio is genuine or reconstruction, but from the quality of it and the not-excessively-old-telephone-ness of it i'd guess the latter.
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