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oldrover Great Old One Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Total posts: 2070 Location: Wales Gender: Male |
Posted: 28-01-2012 18:07 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Or maybe he was and they didn't use it, ahem. |
I've always liked the BBC.
| Quote: | | What's the evidence Nessie is a predator? As opposed to scavenger, benthic grazer or unique peat filterer? |
Agreed there's as much evidence for it being a predator as there is for it existing at all, absolutely none. |
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Bigfoot73 Great Old One Joined: 19 May 2009 Total posts: 1070 Location: Leeds Gender: Male |
Posted: 29-01-2012 18:33 Post subject: |
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If it was nocturnal people wouldn't keep seeing it during the day. Perhaps when circumstances dictate it puts in a nightshift.
There is no biological imperative to going inland and entering the loch, but some animals are dumb as @@@@.
The only large aquatic herivore I can think of is the manatee, and they're not very large at all and don't fit the habits described. |
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oldrover Great Old One Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Total posts: 2070 Location: Wales Gender: Male |
Posted: 29-01-2012 18:42 Post subject: |
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I can't think of one either, used to be Stellar's sea cow though that was huge. I'm sure someone at some time put that forward as a possible Nessie.
| Quote: | | There is no biological imperative to going inland and entering the loch, but some animals are dumb as @@@@. |
Yes, Pandas for example. Carnivore's short gut but screw it I'm off to live on bamboo shoots. |
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silverity Yeti Joined: 15 Sep 2011 Total posts: 33 Gender: Unknown |
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titch Great Old One Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Total posts: 1202 Location: london uk Age: 42 Gender: Male |
Posted: 14-02-2012 11:07 Post subject: |
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| mmmm still don't think there is anything there beyond giant eels or a stray sturgeon , but plenty too think about there , tvm silver |
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oldrover Great Old One Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Total posts: 2070 Location: Wales Gender: Male |
Posted: 14-02-2012 22:58 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | we could have three bulls of four tonnes each, six females of two tonnes each and ten juveniles of a tonne and under which gives us 19 animals adding up to only 34 tonnes out of the maximum 57 tonnes we have postulated. You can plug in your own numbers here and come to your own conclusions. |
My conclusion is that it's unreasonable to suggest that such a group of animals could remain undetected in a relatively small area.
Also that despite the work you've put in there, which I really do admire you for, there's still not a single piece of evidence to suggest there's anything unusual in Loch Ness. |
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Bigfoot73 Great Old One Joined: 19 May 2009 Total posts: 1070 Location: Leeds Gender: Male |
Posted: 15-02-2012 01:29 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Also that despite the work you've put in there, which I really do admire you for | ,
Seconded. However I think the crucial factor is the fry-adult survival rate for these species, which is very low for all aquatic fauna. |
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oldrover Great Old One Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Total posts: 2070 Location: Wales Gender: Male |
Posted: 15-02-2012 22:46 Post subject: |
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| It's a bit more fundamental than that. |
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silverity Yeti Joined: 15 Sep 2011 Total posts: 33 Gender: Unknown |
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MrRING Android Futureman Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Total posts: 4191 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 20-02-2012 18:23 Post subject: |
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| Thanks - an interesting site overall, may write more once I've had a chance to read through it. |
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Fats_Tuesday Great Old One Joined: 05 Sep 2001 Total posts: 517 Location: London Age: 42 Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-02-2012 15:20 Post subject: |
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I've always thought the explanation for that photograph (assuming it's no hoax) is actually rather simple.
There is clearly very calm water in the foreground, as you can sea a clear reflection of Urquhart Castle.
If the calm water extended right across the loch, you would expect to see a clear dark reflection of the high hills on the far side (see them at http://g.co/maps/4wnhy), so clearly the water is more disturbed in the middle and far side of the loch, presumably by wind that is not hitting the sheltered foreground.
The "humps" in the photograph are in the same location where the reflection of the very tops of these hills would fall, so the reflection of the tops of the hills in the very edge of the foreground calm water is creating the optical illusion of humps. |
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silverity Yeti Joined: 15 Sep 2011 Total posts: 33 Gender: Unknown |
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silverity Yeti Joined: 15 Sep 2011 Total posts: 33 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 26-03-2012 12:54 Post subject: Free Archive of Rip Hepple Loch Ness Monster Newsletter |
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Rip Hepple has published the aquatic cryptid newsletter "Nessletter" since 1975 with the decided emphasis on the Loch Ness Monster. It is a veritable mine of information on Nessie wihch continues where the books left off when the likes of Dinsdale, Mackal, Holiday, etc stopped writing.
With his consent, part of the early series (1975-1985) has been digitised and put online for free viewing and research. I hope to add more issues as time goes on.
http://lochnessmystery.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/rip-hepple-nessletter-archive.html
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oldrover Great Old One Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Total posts: 2070 Location: Wales Gender: Male |
Posted: 27-03-2012 19:29 Post subject: |
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Clicked on the links and the first one mentioned the Barmouth sea monster seen running across the beach by a group of school kids. I'd forgotten that one recently but it used to be one of my favourites.
Looks like this news letter will be quite fascinating. |
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silverity Yeti Joined: 15 Sep 2011 Total posts: 33 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 29-03-2012 15:11 Post subject: |
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Good, hope you find it informative. I plan to add more in the weeks/months ahead with Rip's permission.
Roland |
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