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PostPosted: 19-03-2012 04:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm anti war, and I was anti Pinochet when Sean Penn was still making films about how terrorism is freedom fighting as long as it isn't happening in your country. Being anti Thatcher doesn't necessarily mean that you think that the Falklands should belong to anyone other than the people who live there.
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PostPosted: 20-03-2012 10:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which side is Paddington on? Check under his hat, he might have a grenade there.

Peru cancels Royal Navy visit over Falklands

HMS Montrose was due to dock near Lima for a friendly visit to Peru

Falklands tensions

Competing claims
Tensions alive in Buenos Aires
Life on the islands
Falklanders confident about future

Peru has cancelled a visit by a Royal Navy frigate as an act of solidarity with Argentina in its dispute with the UK over the Falkland Islands.

HMS Montrose had been due to dock at the El Callao naval base this week.

The UK Foreign Office said officials could have raised concerns with Foreign Office Minister Jeremy Browne when he was in the country last week.

Argentina maintains the Falkland Islands - which it calls Las Malvinas - belongs to it.

'Routine deployment'
Peruvian Foreign Minister Rafael Roncagliolo told news agency Andina Peru he supported Argentina's "legitimate rights" over the Falkland Islands.

He said: "This decision has been taken in the spirit of Latin American solidarity commitments undertaken in the framework of Unasur (Union of South American Nations) with regard to the legitimate rights of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding waters."

The Foreign Office said the UK regretted Peru's decision.

A spokesman said: "HMS Montrose was scheduled to make a short visit to Peru as part of a routine deployment to the region.

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Ship visits are a sovereign decision for states, but we regret that Peru has revoked its previous agreement to this visit”

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"This was agreed as an act of friendship and co-operation between Peru and the UK. Ship visits are a sovereign decision for states, but we regret that Peru has revoked its previous agreement to this visit.

"This is despite the Peruvian government having had the opportunity on Friday to raise any concerns it had about this agreed co-operation."

Argentina has taken several steps recently to assert its claim that the Falklands belong to its government.

The UK and Argentina are preparing to mark the 30th anniversary of the Falklands War.

On 2 April 1982, Argentina invaded the Falklands, only to be defeated by a British task force sent to recover them.

The UK says there will be no negotiations on sovereignty as long as the Falkland islanders wish to remain British.

'No negotiations'
Last week Argentine minister Hector Timmerman threatened legal action against firms drilling off the islands.

But the UK Foreign Office said it was a legitimate commercial venture.

Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner's government has also accused the UK of "militarising" the South Atlantic and criticised Prince William's deployment there after he was posted to work as a RAF rescue helicopter pilot.

Prime Minister David Cameron has said Britain will "continue to protect and defend" the islands and Downing Street has accused Argentina of pursuing a "policy of confrontation" over the Falkland Islands.

Following the Peruvian government's actions, the Foreign Office spokesman added: "The UK government remains fully committed to the Falkland islanders' right to self determination. This position will not change."
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Interesting article. Full text at link.

Falklands War turned distant outpost into flourishing community
Mon, Mar 26, 2012

As the 30th anniversary of the struggle with Argentina approaches, the islands are booming, writes TOM HENNIGAN in Stanley

THOUGH MARGARET Thatcher’s admirers do not like to recall it now, on coming to power in 1979 she adopted the foreign office’s long-standing policy of pushing the Falkland Islanders into the arms of Argentina.

In 1980 she dispatched Nicholas Ridley, one of her favourite ministers, to sell the islanders a plan whereby they would accept Argentinian sovereignty and then “lease back” the south Atlantic archipelago from Buenos Aires.

At a tense public meeting Falklanders angrily rejected the proposal, prompting a furious Ridley to warn, “if you continue with your intransigence on your own heads be it – we will not be sending a gunboat”.

Three Argentinian air force officers in the hall left shortly afterwards. Less than 18 months later, on April 2nd, 1982, Argentina’s military dictatorship invaded the islands.

But the generals had miscalculated. Faced with such a blatant challenge to British authority, Mrs Thatcher suddenly transformed herself into the most ardent advocate of the Falklanders’ desire to remain British and dispatched a task force to expel the invaders. In doing so, she initiated a process that has transformed life on the islands in the 30 years since the conflict.

What was an unloved colonial outpost seemingly in terminal decline is today a thriving community with some of the highest standards of living in the western hemisphere, largely thanks to a post-war boom in fishing.

Before the conflict London ignored Falklanders’ requests to create a fisheries protection zone around the islands, condemning them to watch as eastern European trawlers scooped up vast wealth from their waters while the local sheep-based economy was battered by a global depression in wool prices.

But in 1986 the Falklanders took advantage of Britain’s renewed commitment – most visibly expressed by a strong military presence designed to keep Argentina from reinvading – to turn a war-time exclusion zone around the islands into a fisheries protection zone.

Now, European and Asian trawlers pay the government in Stanley handsomely for the right to hunt for loligo squid and Patagonian toothfish, which reappear on European and North American plates as calamari and Chilean sea bass.

The income has provided an unprecedented bonanza for the 3,000 islanders. Last year the islands’ government had a surplus of more than €20 million and has built up a reserve fund equivalent to three years’ expenditure.
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Argentina submarine claim 'baseless', says Nick Clegg

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has said "insinuations" by Argentina that the UK sent a nuclear-armed submarine to the South Atlantic are "baseless".

Tensions have been rising in recent months between the two countries over the future of the Falkland Islands.
Argentine Foreign Minister Hector Timerman reportedly told a summit that an "extra-regional power" had sent the submarine to the area.
Mr Clegg said Argentina seemed "keen to rattle cages in any way they can".

It is the latest development in an ongoing argument between the UK and Argentina as the 30th anniversary of the Falklands War approaches.
Mr Clegg and Mr Timerman are both attending the international nuclear security summit in the South Korean capital, Seoul.

It was reported last month that the UK had deployed a nuclear-powered but conventionally armed Trafalgar class submarine to the ocean around the Falklands - something the Ministry of Defence has refused to confirm or deny.
However, Mr Timerman subsequently told the United Nations that Britain had, in fact, sent a nuclear-armed Vanguard class submarine in violation of the Treaty of Tlatelolco, which guarantees Latin America as a nuclear weapons-free zone.

British officials said Mr Timerman had repeated the allegation at the meeting in Seoul, referring to an "extra-regional power" which had deployed a submarine "capable of carrying nuclear weapons" in the South Atlantic.

In his address to the conference, Mr Clegg said he was "duty-bound to respond to the insinuations made by the Argentinean delegation of militarisation of the South Atlantic by the British government".
"These are unfounded, baseless insinuations," he said.
"As I'm sure our colleague from Argentina knows, the United Kingdom ratified the protocols to the treaty in 1969... which guarantees a nuclear weapons-free zone covering Latin America and the Caribbean.
"We have respected those obligations since 1969 and we will continue to do so."

The status of the Falklands, known in Argentina as the Malvinas, is still a highly sensitive issue for Buenos Aires.
It has called on the UK to enter into negotiations over the islands' future - something Britain has refused to do.

After his address, Mr Clegg told the BBC it was "inappropriate" of the Argentines to "crowbar" a complaint about the UK into the summit.
He said the government's position was "crystal clear" on the treaty.
"I provided that explanation to the Argentine representatives, but I get the impression they are keen to rattle cages in any way they can, which is unfortunate because the issue of sovereignty, as far as the Falklands is concerned, is settled."

David Cameron has insisted the Falklands will remain British as long as the people living there want them to.

The UK has sent HMS Dauntless, one of its largest and most powerful air defence destroyers, to the South Atlantic, but says it is only carrying out routine operations and the warship is only replacing one in the area.

Meanwhile, the UK is to share details of previously classified technology in an attempt to prevent terrorists acquiring a nuclear device or radiological "dirty bomb".
Mr Clegg disclosed that cutting-edge devices had been used at UK borders since 2001, while in recent years the government had developed specialist teams to respond to the threat of an improvised suitcase bomb.
Sharing would allow countries around the world to "raise our game" in fighting terrorism, he told the Seoul conference.
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PostPosted: 27-03-2012 20:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would Clegg know. Prefects don't share confidential info with their fags.
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Another Falklands article with a fascinating personal story.

Potential for major Falklands oil find infuriates Argentina

Tue, Mar 27, 2012

WHEN STEPHEN Luxton was nine years old, Argentina’s military finally caught up with his father.

Arriving shortly after the Argentinian invasion of the Falkland Islands on April 2nd, 1982, was a Major Patricio Dowling, who liked to boast to the islanders of his Irish ancestry and support for the IRA.

Fresh from his role in his country’s dirty war, the major arrived with a list of potential troublemakers. Luxton’s father, one of the most vociferous anti-Argentinians among the Falklanders, was near the top.

After a game of cat and mouse across the islands, Major Dowling’s men finally caught up with the Luxtons at the family’s farm and bundled them onto a helicopter.

“We have unpleasant memories of flying across Falklands Sound (a sea strait) with the door of the helicopter open. I did not appreciate the significance of it at the age of nine. But I know now what they used to do to people who they didn’t like, which was throw them out of helicopters over water. But my parents were certainly very afraid at that point,” remembers Luxton.

Instead of joining the long list of those “disappeared” by Argentina’s military dictatorship, the family was flown into exile – the only Falkland Islands family to be expelled during Argentina’s 74-day occupation.

After a British task force retook the islands they were able to return, and today Luxton is busy working to secure the long-term future of the Falklands.

As director of the islands’ department of mineral resources he is in charge of the government’s efforts to try to realise the promise held out by geologists that the waters around the south Atlantic archipelago could hold billions of barrels of oil.

If the top estimates are realised, the Falkland Islanders could be catapulted from the list of high-income countries into the company of the super-rich, its 3,000 residents rivalling Russian oligarchs and Arab sheikhs for wealth.

One exploration firm has already discovered 450 million barrels of oil in the Sea Lion field to the north of the islands. London-listed Rockhopper is now seeking €1.5 billion in investment to bring it into production. If it succeeds, the Falklands could be entitled to up to €8 billion in taxes and royalties over the field’s lifetime, according to industry analysts – a huge sum for a community whose gross domestic product is about €125 million.

This year will also see wells drilled in the inhospitable deep waters to the south of the islands targeting potentially far bigger finds than Sea Lion.

Falklands Oil Gas Ltd, one of the companies drilling in the south basin, says it is targeting an area that may hold up to 5 billion barrels. “The Falklanders could be the richest people in the world,” says company director David Hudd.

But the Falklanders themselves are cautious, in part because the oil firms estimate the chances of an “elephant find” at no more than 25 per cent. “There is huge upside potential, but we will continue to spend what we have got, not what we might have in 10 years’ time. The important word here is potential,” says Luxton.

Such is the islanders’ caution, bred by decades of economic frugality, that a recent economic development strategy drawn up by the Falklands government barely mentioned oil, lest it fail to materialise.

THE ISLANDERS are beginning to debate what the impact of major offshore finds could mean for their community.

Some are worried an oil boom would irrevocably change life on the Falklands. In a small community with little crime and where people still greet each other by name when passing in the street, many become nervous at talk of the population jumping past 10,000 people in coming decades. But supporting an oil industry would require the sort of investment likely to attract new arrivals.

Other Falklanders see oil as the potential to secure the future.

“We need to grow the economy, and the more wealth we have as a nation the less we will need to rely on South America,” says Dick Sawle, the Falklands’ assembly member in charge of development.

“I am not an isolationist. I want to trade with South America. But I want to have the luxurious option of being able to say, ‘we don’t want an air link to Buenos Aires, thank you very much, we’ll do our own to where we want to go’.”

One means of using any oil wealth to secure the future would be to start contributing towards defending the islands. London spends about €75 million a year on warding off any renewed attempt by Argentina to retake the islands by force. “A popular view would be that we should contribute towards that. We feel a debt of gratitude to Britain for liberating us,” notes Luxton.

But the potential of an oil boom in the Falkland Islands has infuriated the Buenos Aires government, which despite Argentina’s defeat in 1982 has not relinquished its claims over the Falkland Islands, which it calls Las Malvinas.

Last week, Argentina’s foreign minister, Hector Timerman, warned his government would

try to sue any companies which participate in the Falklands’ oil rush – which it considers an imperialist grab against Argentinian mineral wealth.

“We will defend the resources of the south Atlantic, which are the property of all Argentinians,” he said.

This latest threat follows last year’s decision by BHP Billiton to quit Falklands waters. It is widely understood in the region that it did so lest Argentina should move against its mining interests in the country.

But oilmen already in the Falklands are sanguine. “There are hundreds of companies with no interests in Argentina who would be happy to come here,” says Hudd of Falklands Oil Gas Ltd. “This could be another North Sea – and we could be here for another 20 years.”
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I'm moving to the Falklands!

No, not really.
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Falkland Islands: Argentina's dissenters
By Vladimir Hernandez. BBC Mundo, Buenos Aires

For many Argentines, their country's claim of sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, or Malvinas as they are called in Spanish, is clear.
Recent opinion polls suggest that two-thirds of the population support this view.
Amid such strong backing for the government's position, dissenting voices find it hard to engage debate.

"I'm not really bothered about the claim over the Malvinas. I don't think it changes much to have them [as part of Argentina] or not," says historian Luis Alberto Romero.
"What does worry me is the rise of a nationalistic feeling that can cause traumas in our society," he says, referring to public support for the country's military regime when it decided to invade the South Atlantic islands in 1982.
After the war, many Argentines realised they had supported a regime that was leading one of the fiercest repressions in Latin America at the time.

Mr Romero is part of a group of 20 well-known Argentine intellectuals that recently issued a statement criticising the government's stance over the islands.
"The idea of getting the islands back cannot be the priority of the [Argentine] claim. There must be a negotiation process," says sociologist Vicente Palermo, one of the signatories.
That must involve dialogue with the Falkland islanders, themselves, Mr Palermo says.
"Right now that is probably difficult, but not impossible."

Those who signed the statement - including leading academics, journalists and historians - have found that their views echoed in other parts of Argentine society.
"I definitely think that the islanders must be taken into account, as after all they are the ones who live there," says Horacio Benitez, an Argentine veteran of the Falklands War.

Mr Benitez was on the front line during the conflict. He experienced hand-to-hand combat against British troops, and he was shot in the head. It almost killed him.
"I have proven my patriotism, so I'm not afraid to say what I think about Malvinas. The government is leaving out the islanders in their claim," he says.

This is a controversial position in Argentina.
A day after the intellectuals published their statement, Argentina's main tabloid, Cronicas, put four of them on the front page under the headline: "Supporting the Pirates."
In Argentina, the word pirates is used pejoratively to describe the British when referring to the Falklands issue.

In other media, too, there were strong words against the group.
"As soon as you say anything different about the subject you are immediately branded a traitor," says Mr Romero.
"And that is what happens when you put such an emphasis on sovereignty. You end up with extreme nationalistic feelings," he says.

The Falklands issue can lead to passionate debates among friends and within families.
"I think it touches a deep and sensitive fibre in our society," says documentary film-maker Tamara Florin.
Ms Florin was born in 1981, a year before the Falklands war started. She says she knows many people of her age who have similarly critical views about the current Argentine sovereignty claim.
"The self-determination of the islanders is being ignored. Nobody seems to remember that they actually live there."

Five years ago, Ms Florin went to the Falklands to make a documentary. She says was astonished at how different the islanders were.
"I met many people who had lived in the islands for a long time. I was the one treated like an invader," she says.

She believes that Argentines who support the sovereignty claim do not know how different, culturally, the Falklands are.
"We cannot be neighbours to a population and not listen to their own views".
"Why do we actually want these islands? Nobody [in the Argentine government] responds to this question," she says.

For some Argentines, the main problem is the lack of free debate about the issue.
"You can hardly exchange arguments, because you will be immediately attacked. That worries me," says Mr Palermo.
"Many people act like football hooligans when referring to the Falklands, but they are only repeating a militaristic view which led to a war 30 years ago," says Ms Florin.
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Clearly the majority of the Argentinian population is ill-educated and doesn't have access to the facts. Worrying.
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Argentina threatens to sue banks helping Falklands oil explorers as trade war with Britain escalates
A group of British and American banks have been threatened with legal action by the Argentine government for advising and writing research reports about companies involved in the Falkland Islands’ £1.6bn oil industry.
By James Quinn
9:30PM BST 31 Mar 2012

In what amounts to the start of a new trade war between the UK and Argentina, the banks - understood to include the Royal Bank of Scotland, Barclays Capital and Goldman Sachs - have been warned they face criminal and civil action in the Argentine courts.

The threats were made in a series of letters sent to as many as 15 banks by the Argentine embassy in London over the last ten days.
The letter, a copy of which has been seen by The Sunday Telegraph, warns the institutions that even merely writing research notes on exploration companies involved in the Falklands constitutes “a violation of the applicable domestic and international rules”.

The news - coming a day ahead of the 30th anniversary of Argentina’s invasion of the Falklands which sparked the 1982 conflict - is likely to worsen tensions between the two countries. The Argentine government is continuing to push for sovereignty.

The two-page letter, to which a schedule of legal declarations about the Falkland’s ownership are attached, is intended to warn off the banks from any further involvement in the South Atlantic oil industry.

In an element that is likely to heighten diplomatic tensions, the letter - written in Spanish - contains the header “2012 - Ano de Homenaje al doctor D.Manuel Belgrano”. This is a direct reference to the Argentine economist after whom the ARA General Belgrano was named. The ship was sunk by British forces during the 1982 conflict.

The letter warns the banks to “bear in mind, when offering their opinions, risk ratings and investment recommendations, the existence and characteristics of the above mentioned sovereignty dispute and of the consequences of any unlawful hydrocarbon exploration activities in the Argentine continental shelf in proximity to the Malvinas [Falkland] Islands.”
“It should also be borne in mind that . . . participation in those activities will cause companies directly or indirectly involved in them to be subject to such administrative, civil and criminal actions as may be provided for in the Argentive laws governing such activities.”
It goes on to threaten that any oil company involved in “unlawful hydrocarbon exploration activities” will trigger legal proceedings

The letters were sent to the individual banks by the Argentine embassy in London on March 20 and were not signed, but contained the crest of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Worship.

The document appears to be aimed at cutting financial support to the five London-listed exploration companies - together worth a combined £1.6bn - which are active in the Falkland’s basin, of which Rockhopper Exploration is the largest by market capitalisation.

The recipients of the letters fall into two separate categories - those who are advising the five oil companies and those who have written research notes either on the subject of Falklands oil or on specific companies.

The banks and stockbrokers which have undertaken advisory and fundraising roles for the five which are believed to have received the letter include RBS, Credit Suisse, Barclays, and Oriel Securities. Those institutions whose research teams have written on the subject and have been targeted by the Argentine government are believed to include Goldman Sachs, Jefferies and Edison Investment Research.

It is not thought that the letters have been dispatched to the oil exploration companies themselves at this time.

Juliet Blanch, partner and head of the international dispute resolution at law firm Weil, Gotshal & Manges, believes the legal threat could be a ploy by Argentina to try and cut off funding to the oil companies rather than having to resort to a protracted legal battle.

Ms Blanch said: “Clearly if Argentina has sent this letter to banks and advisers and not to the independent oil companies themselves, it could be interpreted as a ploy by Argentina to find a way to stop the exploration without having to resort to a legal solution which would be costly, protracted and uncertain. Argentina could be hoping that application of pressure to the financiers might result in a reassessment of the relationship between them and the oil companies.” None of the banks named chose to comment.

The Argentine embassy in London did not return telephone calls yesterday.

It's just bluster, I think. Argentina would probably bankrupt itself (again) if it tried to take all these cases to court! (Lawyers aren't cheap.) Twisted Evil
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Falkland Islands: How strong is Argentina's position?
By John Simpson, BBC World affairs editor, Buenos Aires

Thirty years after Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands, everyone here seems agreed on one thing: it will not happen again.
Military spending has been cut back savagely. Argentina's air force is still only equipped with the planes it had in 1982.
There is basically only enough money in the defence budget nowadays to pay the wages of the soldiers, sailors, airmen and civilians the armed forces ministry employs, and to finance their greatly-restricted local operations.

"Argentina has unilaterally disarmed itself since the 1990s," said Carlos Escude, a foreign affairs adviser to the previous government.
"Our munitions would only last for a 25-hour shooting war against Paraguay. After that, Paraguay would invade us." Shocked

But President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner is using different weapons against Britain's ownership of the Falkland Islands: diplomatic ones.
Her supporters here believe that her approach is paying off handsomely.

"This is the first time that all of Latin America is with Argentina in this claim [to the islands], even Brazil, even Chile," said Gabriela Cerruti, a Buenos Aires politician allied to President Fernandez's government.
"That makes a change in the situation, and makes the Argentine position much stronger."
And she believes it could go wider than that: "We're supporting Spain in its claim to Gibraltar, and we hope Spain will support us."

It is true that Brazil, Uruguay, Chile and other Latin American countries have openly supported Argentina's claim to the islands.
There is an instinctive disapproval in the continent of the remnants of colonialism, and a feeling that a European power has no real business operating from territory in the South Atlantic.

Argentina interprets this support as a growing sign that Britain is feeling the heat. The British government disagrees.
Foreign Secretary William Hague told me in London: "People in Argentina would be very much mistaken if they thought Britain was retreating from the scene, or is not interested in the region, or is weakening in any way in our commitment to the people of the Falkland Islands."

Argentina's hope is that Britain will become so embarrassed by the disapproval of other countries that it will eventually agree to negotiate with Argentina over the sovereignty of the islands.
If Cristina Fernandez was an ordinary president, that might be a possibility. But she is not.
Under her rule, Argentina is starting to worry many of the countries whose support she most needs.
Her government seems to be slipping away from its traditional pro-Western position, and growing closer to Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba and even Iran.
Countries in the region as different as Brazil, Chile, Colombia and Peru find this increasingly worrying.

Brazil has also been annoyed by President Fernandez's proposals for a non-nuclear South Atlantic, as part of its campaign against the British presence in the Falklands.
The problem is, Brazil is building seven nuclear-powered submarines of its own.

There are plenty of other irritants.
Last year, when Argentina's trade surplus dropped by 11%, the government introduced a complicated system of import restrictions.
On Friday, 40 countries - including the US, the European Union nations and Japan - attacked Argentina angrily at the World Trade Organisation.

Like Bolivia and Venezuela, Argentina has now cut its links with US policy on drug control, forcing the American Drug Enforcement Administration to leave the country.

Supporters of President Fernandez's policy, like Mr Escude, defend these things by saying that former great powers like the US and Britain no longer matter as much as they once did, and that countries like Brazil are taking over.

Yet Brazil is anxious to keep its good relationships with the US and Britain, and does not want to have to side with Argentina against them - over the Falkland Islands or anything else.

Argentine constitutional lawyer Daniel Sabsay is one of several thousand signatories to an open letter which calls for Argentina to consider the rights and opinions of the Falkland Islanders.
He believes the government's sudden interest in the Falklands is a deliberate distraction from Argentina's increasing problems at home.
"This conflict is a mask, something that is useful to hide other problems we have."

Argentina's problems are certainly worsening. After 10 years of growth, the official inflation rate is 7%, but private economists currently put it at 22%.
Wage demands are mounting, and low and middle-income families are starting to struggle.

Five years ago, in 2007, when President Fernandez's late husband Nestor Kirchner was president, Argentina broke off discussions with Britain about the development of the Falkland Islands' resources, on grounds no progress was being made on the question of sovereignty.

But there was little sign of any other interest in the islands. It was only in June last year, in an interview with the editor of the English-language Buenos Aires Herald, that the defence minister, Arturo Puricelli, launched the government's attack on the issue.

The Herald, edited by Carolina Barros, is a small newspaper with a famous history.
During the so-called Dirty War, carried out by the country's military in the 1970s and early 1980s, it was the only newspaper which had the courage to raise the issue of the people who were disappearing - 20,000 or more of them.

Ms Barros maintains that the Fernandez government is nowadays trying to control the media - only parts of which are anyway independent of government influence.
Not long ago, she says, every newspaper received a letter from the official statistics agency, which the opposition maintains is heavily influenced by the government, warning that they should not quote figures from independent economists - for instance the inflation estimate of 22%.
"We are becoming like Venezuela, where you aren't allowed to print the genuine exchange rate for the dollar," Ms Barros said.

President Fernandez runs a strange kind of government. She never gives interviews or press conferences; instead, she regularly broadcasts her views direct to the country on television.
Her critics believe she is becoming more and more isolated. The similarities with Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, they say, are growing.
"The trouble is, she is isolating Argentina too," says Ms Barros.
"We will soon be almost on our own in the world."
Mr Sabsay agrees: "It is very difficult to trust a country which is so mercurial, changing every day."

"There is an instinctive disapproval in the continent of the remnants of colonialism.."
But the whole ruddy continent is a 'remnant of colonialism'!
Perhaps all those of European descent should return to Spain and Portugal, and leave the continent to the natives!
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Argentina told it must pay back £45 million UK loans that were partly used to fund Falklands invasion
Britain wants Argentina to pay back £45 million in loans that the country's former military junta used to fund equipment that was later used in the invasion of the Falkland Islands.
7:20AM BST 10 Apr 2012

The demand comes amid continued tensions between London and Buenos Aires around the 30th anniversary of the war over the South Atlantic territory.
Details of the loans, uncovered by a campaign group, showed how Argentina's government borrowed the money in 1979. It was partly spent on equipment used to seize the islands three years later, before they were recaptured by Britain.
The South American country later ran into financial crisis and failed to repay loans - including those to British exporters underwritten by the UK Government.

Now the debt has been inherited by UK Export Finance, an arm of Vince Cable's business department - which says it has "no plans to offer debt forgiveness".
Argentina had used the money to buy two Type 42 destroyers, which were deployed during the invasion as well as two Lynx helicopters, one of which was among the first to arrive on the islands after the assault was launched, the Daily Mail reported.

The details were discovered from the National Archives by pressure group the Jubilee Debt Campaign - which says countries should not have to repay money that was lent by Britain to their former dictators and is calling on Mr Cable to cancel Argentina's debt.

Documents uncovered by the group show how then Labour foreign secretary David Owen signed off the loans despite raising doubts about how they could fund arms sales to a regime with a bad human rights record which could "come close to a confrontation with us over the Falklands".
The Jubilee Debt Campaign is saying that Mr Cable should stick to a Liberal Democrat pledge "to rule invalid loans recklessly given to dictators".
Nick Dearden, director of the campaign, said: "Lending the military junta money to buy British weapons was illegitimate and odious."

But a spokesman for the business department said: "The Government has no plans to offer debt forgiveness."
He said that if Argentina required "further debt relief" it should approach the Paris Club, an intergovernmental body that deals with such issues.


How come it's taken 30 years for us to remember we lent someone £45 million?! Shocked
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It should be in the irony thread!
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I'm shocked that a Labour government would have loaned money to that lot.
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Argentina 'satisfied' by BP's Falklands rejection letter
Argentina has claimed a bizarre victory in its bid to stop British companies exploring for oil off the Falkland Islands, proclaiming "satisfaction" that BP had written to say it had no plans to enter the region.
By Emily Gosden
7:20PM BST 11 Apr 2012

The Argentine Embassy issued a press release hailing the development - despite BP's insistence it never had any plans to explore near the islands anyway. Rolling Eyes

Argentina, which claims sovereignty over the islands, has said it plans legal action to stop exploration by companies such as Rockhopper, Falklands Oil and Gas Limited (FOGL) and Borders & Southern. In the past month it has sent legal declarations to financial institutions that have advised or written research on the companies.

Alicia Castro, the Argentine Ambassador, said she had "received with satisfaction a response letter from British Petroleum [sic]". BP dropped the name British Petroleum more than a decade ago.
Ms Castro said that BP had written: "It does not participate in hydrocarbons exploration activities in the region referred to in your notification - letter sent by the Argentine Embassy in London dated 19th March 2012 - nor has it plans to do so in the future."

BP declined to disclose the letter to which it had replied, but confirmed it had indeed sent the reply, which was "a simple answer to a simple question". It added: "There is no change in our position, we have never had any interests in the Falklands."

Last week the chairman of Falkland Island Holdings, which has a stake in FOGL, said that if he were to receive a letter he "wouldn't deign to waste a stamp" on replying. Cool
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