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PostPosted: 11-04-2012 11:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember in the late 90s BBC had a series called 'mysteries' and it had a few interesting disappearances, like fredrick valentich and the beaumont children.
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PostPosted: 12-04-2012 13:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

escargot1 wrote:


Read a book about Cannan a few years ago. He was very forensically aware and generally highly dangerous. That's who the police feel was responsible for Suzy Lamplugh's disappearance, as you know.

Her mother died a year or two back, still baffled and broken-hearted. She was a fine woman.


I read the same book possibly - it was a fascinating book. John Cannon was in the area, staying at a hostel near where she disappeared. I remember something about there being a building site near by, the writer's consensus seemed that it was most likely to be there that the body was dumped and obviously all these years later, no way to find out apart from destroying a building. Whilst all of the evidence was circumstantial at best, it did make me think he was most likely.
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PostPosted: 15-05-2012 11:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mobster Enrico De Pedis' body exhumed in Rome
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18057403

The body has been exhumed from Saint Apollinare basilica in Rome

Officials in Rome have exhumed the body of infamous Italian gangster Enrico De Pedis, who was killed in 1990.

Investigators hope to find new evidence about the disappearance of a 15-year-old girl, Emanuela Orlandi. De Pedis's former girlfriend said he had kidnapped the teenager.

An anonymous call to a TV show in 2005 said the clue to the case lies in De Pedis' tomb.

Emanuela Orlandi disappeared on her way to a piano class in Rome in 1983.

Ever since, police have been trying to solve the mystery of her disappearance.

De Pedis was a significant figure in Rome's underworld at the time of the disappearance.

The BBC's Alan Johnston in Rome notes that for some, his notoriety clashes with what is seen as an honorary privilege granted to him after his death.

He is buried in one of Rome's most important churches, Saint Apollinare - the final resting place of a number of cardinals and senior figures in the Vatican.
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PostPosted: 15-05-2012 11:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've taken away some boxes of bones but the bones seem much older than just under 30 years. I don't think the girl's remains have been found, sadly.
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PostPosted: 24-05-2012 11:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Etan Patz death: Person implicated, say New York police
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18188241

Etan Patz was declared legally dead in 2001

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'No remains' in search for NY boy
New York dig for 1979 body clues

New York City police say they are holding a suspect in custody in connection with the disappearance of a local six-year-old boy in 1979.

Police say the suspect has implicated himself in the disappearance and death of Etan Patz.

Further details are expected to be released later on Thursday.

Etan Patz vanished while walking to a bus stop. His face became one of the first to appear on milk cartons asking for information on missing persons.

In April, an excavation was conducted at a Manhattan basement flat, but yielded no obvious human remains and little forensic evidence.

The excavation site was near the Patz family home, where they still live, and previously belonged to a handyman who was friendly with Etan at the time of his disappearance.

Etan vanished on 25 May 1979, while walking alone to his school bus stop for the first time, near his home in New York's SoHo district.

In 1983, President Ronald Reagan declared 25 May National Missing Children's Day.

Etan Patz was declared legally dead in 2001.
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PostPosted: 24-05-2012 21:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... US media named him as Pedro Hernandez, saying that police had been tipped off by someone he had confided in, possibly a family member.

Mr Hernandez told police that he had left the boy's body in a box, leaving it in a nearby alley, the AP reports. No body or box was recovered.

Police officials are still trying to confirm details of the man's story. He currently faces no charges.

On Thursday, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg declined to comment any further.

"I caution you all that there's a lot more investigating to do," he told reporters. ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18188241
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PostPosted: 24-05-2012 21:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might just be a random nutter wanting cheap fame by association with notoriety. If he is, it's terrible to get people's hopes up like that.
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PostPosted: 25-05-2012 04:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, especially as his story about the disposal of the body is rubbish.
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PostPosted: 25-05-2012 19:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Etan Patz death: Pedro Hernandez due in court
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18210494

Etan Patz vanished while walking to a school bus stop on his own for the first time

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Missing child that haunted New York
'No remains' in search for Etan

The man who has confessed to killing six-year-old Etan Patz, who went missing in New York in 1979, is expected in court on Friday.

Pedro Hernandez of Maple Shade, New Jersey, was arrested on Thursday after he told police he choked the boy to death.

Mr Hernandez, 51, worked in a convenience shop near the Patz family home in Manhattan, New York.

Etan vanished while walking to a school bus stop on his own for the first time.

His was the first face to appear on milk cartons asking for information about missing children.

It is 33 years to the day since Etan went missing.

Prosecutors are expected to file second-degree murder charges against Mr Hernandez, CNN reports.

'Feeling of relief'
He was taken to a New York hospital for a psychological evaluation on Friday.


Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Pedro Hernandez was "remorseful"
"We believe that this is the individual responsible for the crime," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly told reporters on Thursday.

He added that Mr Hernandez was "remorseful, and I think the detectives thought that it was a feeling of relief on his part".

According to Commissioner Kelly, Mr Hernandez allegedly had lured the boy "with the promise of a soda".

After leading the boy into the basement he "choked him there and disposed of the body by placing him in a plastic bag and placing it in the trash".

No body or bag was ever recovered.

Commissioner Kelly told reporters that police took Mr Hernandez back to the scene of the crime, which is now a shop selling spectacles. When the incident took place, Mr Hernandez had been stacking shelves at the small grocery shop for about a month.

While other employees of the shop were interviewed around the time of Etan's disappearance, Mr Hernandez was not.

"I can't tell you why," Mr Kelly said.

Mr Hernandez worked in construction until he suffered a back injury in 1993. He had no previous criminal record, the police commissioner said.

But the 51-year-old told relatives and others, as far back as 1981, that he had "done something bad".

A SoHo acquaintance told the Associated Press that Mr Hernandez was also one of the few teenagers nearby who didn't join in the all-out search for Etan, which consumed the neighbourhood and the city for months.

"He was always around, but he never helped. He never participated," Roberto Monticello said.

Mr Kelly said police had already informed Etan's family of the development in the case.

"We can only hope that these developments bring some measure of peace to the family," he said.

Etan's parents, Stanley and Julie Patz, became outspoken advocates for missing children in the years after their son's disappearance.

The couple have not moved since his disappearance and for years refused to change their phone number, hoping that Etan was alive.

Lt Christopher Zimmerman told reporters that "Mr Patz was taken aback, a little surprised, and I would say overwhelmed, to a degree".

"I think after everything Mr Patz has gone through, he handled it very well."
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PostPosted: 26-05-2012 20:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Etan Patz suspect Pedro Hernandez on murder charge
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18210494

Etan Patz vanished while walking to a school bus stop on his own for the first time

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Man admits to killing Etan Patz
Missing child that haunted New York
'No remains' in search for Etan

The man who has confessed to killing six-year-old Etan Patz in 1979 has been charged with second-degree murder.

Pedro Hernandez was to appear before court via video link from hospital, where he was held on suicide watch.

He was brought to Bellevue Hospital, New York, to get medication for an existing health issue, but was admitted after making suicidal remarks.

Mr Hernandez, 51, was arrested on Thursday after telling police he had choked the boy to death.


Pedro Hernandez' court-appointed lawyer said his family was very upset
According to the charging document, Mr Hernandez "strangled Etan Patz and placed him inside a plastic bag, thereby causing the death of Etan Patz, on or about May 25, 1979, in the basement of 448 West Broadway."

Mr Hernandez' lawyer did not enter a plea, but said his client was bipolar and schizophrenic.

The judge ordered a psychological evaluation of Mr Hernandez, who is being held without bail.

In 1979, Mr Hernandez was 18 years old and working in a convenience shop near the Patz family home in Manhattan, New York. ...

Mr Hernandez was arrested on Thursday after being questioned by officials for two days.

"We believe that this is the individual responsible for the crime," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly told reporters on Thursday.

He added that Mr Hernandez was "remorseful, and I think the detectives thought that it was a feeling of relief on his part".

According to Commissioner Kelly, Mr Hernandez allegedly had lured the boy "with the promise of a soda".

After leading the boy into the basement, he "choked him there and disposed of the body by placing him in a plastic bag and placing it in the trash".

No body or bag was ever recovered.

Commissioner Kelly told reporters that police took Mr Hernandez back to the scene of the crime, which is now a shop selling spectacles.

On Friday investigators went to the site and were considering whether to excavate the building's basement to look for forensic evidence.

It is said they are also trying to establish whether Mr Hernandez has a history of mental illness or paedophilia.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Pedro Hernandez was "remorseful"

When the incident took place, Mr Hernandez had been stacking shelves at the small grocery shop for about a month.

While other employees of the shop were interviewed around the time of Etan's disappearance, Mr Hernandez was not.

"I can't tell you why," Commissioner Kelly said.

Mr Hernandez worked in construction until he suffered a back injury in 1993. He had no previous criminal record, the police commissioner said.

But the 51-year-old told relatives and others, as far back as 1981, that he had "done something bad". ...

Police spokesman Paul Browne said Mr Hernandez would not be released before the completion of the investigation. "There was no way we could release the man who had just confessed to killing Etan Patz," he said. ...
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PostPosted: 19-06-2012 22:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicola Payne: Police search Coventry parkland

Police investigating the disappearance of a Coventry mother last seen 21 years ago are searching parkland after being given new information.
Nicola Payne, aged 18, went missing from the Wood End area on 14 December 1991. She had a six-month-old son.
She was on her way to her parents' house from the home she shared with her boyfriend in Winston Avenue.

West Midlands Police urged anyone with information to "dig deep into their conscience" and come forward.
Speaking at a news conference, Det Ch Insp Matt Markham said: "New information has been developed by detectives working on the case. We can't go into the detail about the information, but it is sufficient to warrant further investigation.
"Someone out there does know what happened and holds the key, but for whatever reason they may have chosen not to come forward... "

He said he wanted people in the area to think back over whether they saw anything suspicious. Nicola was last sighted near to the Black Pad in Wood End.

The latest search includes specially-trained dogs and Home Office scientists using ground x-ray and metal detection equipment. Police said it could take another two days before "progress" can be made.

Family liaison officers are on site while the search, at parkland off Purcell Road, takes place.
In a statement, the family said: "For many years we have suffered not knowing what has happened to her and we are appealing to find Nicola and give us the clue we deserve.
"This demonstrates that there are people still providing vital and important information around her disappearance."

Miss Payne's son Owen is now aged 21.
He did not wish to talk about recent events, but in 2007, aged 16, he spoke about the sadness of not having any memory of his mother.
He said: "During my early years at school I wished that my mum could meet me at the school gates as other mums did with my friends.
"I envy my older cousins who remember her well, and they tell me what a fun-loving girl she was."

At the same time, Miss Payne's father John said the family did not believe Nicola was still alive but they would never give up hope that one day she would be found.
Nicola would have turned 40 next January, which police said would be a landmark date for the family.

Miss Payne had left the home she shared with her boyfriend, Jason Cooke, half a mile from her parents' house.
In 2007 a man was arrested in connection with her disappearance and released on bail. No-one has ever been charged in connection with the case.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-18501540
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PostPosted: 21-06-2012 16:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Human bodies don't easily 'vanish', but they do, sometimes without any help.

As research at the Body Farm has shown, the disollution of a corpse takes a while, but is quite thorough. Even the skull, which is next to last to go(the thighbones are the last, the skull will break apart with time and no longer be recognizible as such)

One place that is used as a body dump is the Inca cemeteries in Peru and Bolivia Skeletons are exposed now and then, nobody pays much heed. Sometimes, they are not Inca.

Crypts, charnel houses and such are anonymous places to dump a body. The median strips of four lane roads are also perfect dump sites, since the decomposing remains of deer and such often lie there for some time, and a deer skeleton looks enough like a human to throw people off, as long as they don't see the skull.

Deep water, even not so deep will hide a body.

See Stephen King's little essay in "From a Buick Eight" on how easy it is to disappear.

Vanish? Yes, people do!
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PostPosted: 21-06-2012 21:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicola Payne: Police end parkland search

Police investigating the disappearance of a Coventry mother last seen 21 years ago have finished searching an area of parkland in the city.
Nicola Payne, 18, went missing from the Wood End area in December 1991.

Police cordoned off an area off Purcell Road on Tuesday after being given new information but it is understood no remains were found during the search.
Two men, aged 74 and 45, arrested in connection with the case have been released.
West Midlands Police said a 74-year-old man was released without charge and a 45-year-old man was bailed to an address outside the city pending further inquiries.
Both men were arrested on suspicion of conspiring to prevent the lawful burial of a body on Wednesday.

The search of the parkland involved specially-trained dogs and ground X-ray equipment.
An address in nearby Miles Meadow was also searched.

Det Sup Richard Baker said the investigation was "very much ongoing" despite officers concluding their latest searches.
He said: "Thorough searches took place after new information came to light and obviously we acted on this.
"Over the last few days we have kept Nicola's family fully updated and we will continue to support them.

Det Sup Richard Baker thanked the local community for their support
"I would also like to thank local people for their support over the last few days.
"We are absolutely determined to see an end to the mystery of what happened to Nicola and we know Nicola's family and the local community share our determination.
"This was not about raising false hope - we have a responsibility to investigate fresh lines of inquiry and will continue to assess and act on all information provided to us.
"I continue to appeal for anyone who may have information regarding Nicola's disappearance to come forward and contact us."

Miss Payne was last seen near to the Black Pad in Wood End on 14 December 1991. She had a six-month old son.
In 2007, a man was arrested in connection with her disappearance and released on bail.
No-one has been charged in connection with the case.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-18540185
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Claudia Lawrence 'spotted in Amsterdam'

An ex-detective has claimed to have seen missing York chef Claudia Lawrence in Amsterdam.

Ms Lawrence, who worked at the University of York, was last seen on 18 March 2009.
Spokesperson for Claudia's family Martin Dales said a former private detective had contacted him to say he saw someone with a striking resemblance to the missing York woman a week ago.

North Yorkshire Police said the sighting was yet to be verified.
The police added: "We wish to stress that anyone with any information about Claudia should always notify the police."

Mr Dales said: "We don't know if this is a sighting of Claudia or not but we trust that it will be fully checked."
The inquiry into Ms Lawrence's disappearance is the largest in the recent history of North Yorkshire Police, but the force scaled down the investigation after 16 months in July 2010.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-18787736
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PostPosted: 30-07-2012 07:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

A disappearence at sea may be down to accident... or not:

British round-the-world yachtsman Sean Terry murder fears
Sean Terry, a British round-the-world yachtsman, has vanished in the middle of the Indian Ocean, leading to fears that he may have been murdered.
By Aislinn Laing, Johannesburg
5:10PM BST 29 Jul 2012

Mr Terry, 48, a quantity surveyor from Watford who took early retirement to sail solo around the world, was last heard from on June 18.
A week later, his 40ft yacht Finnegan was sailed into the Seychelles by Stefan Pokorny, an Austrian scuba diving instructor who had joined him on the boat as a skipper after the pair met in Sri Lanka.

Mr Pokorny, who has been arrested in connection with Mr Terry's disappearance, is reported to have told police that Mr Terry had jumped overboard in a "fit of anger".
But detectives are suspicious that the yacht's "man overboard" alert button was not pushed and neither its life ring nor raft had been used.

Mr Terry's family question why Mr Pokorny, a diving instructor and strong swimmer, did not attempt to save him.
Mr Terry's two laptops and the ship's log book which friends said he used to write notes in up to four times a day are also missing.

Raymond, Mr Terry's brother, who lives in Spain, has flown to the Seychelles along with his brother-in-law Robin Philips, while his elderly parents and sisters wait for news at home in Cape Town, South Africa.

Judith Middleton, a spokesman for Mr Terry's family, said they felt strongly that Mr Pokorny's story "just doesn't add up".
"They just can't understand why a qualified and experienced diver did not do more to rescue him," she said. "There is satellite communication equipment on board – so why didn't he radio for help?
"He told police it happened at night and in bad weather but other ships in the area said the weather was fine
.
"Freak accidents do happen but why then didn't he make more effort to save him, or to notify the authorities? He is the only person who knows what happened and Sean's family are just desperate for answers."

His family have rejected suggestions he might have wanted to kill himself, saying he was on the final leg os his voyage and was happy.
"He had been emailing them to say he was looking forward to coming to Cape Town for the end of the year," she said.
"He said he was looking forward to diving with Stefan in the 'clear, crisp waters of the Seychelles'. They were sailing for some time alongside an Italian yacht and it sounded like there was a lot of camaraderie and fun."

Mr Terry was born in Britain but grew up in South Africa. He returned to Britain to work in Watford as a quantity surveyor for the engineering firm Edmund Nuttall.
He is unmarried and has no children but had an Australian girlfriend with whom he was arranging to meet up after his trip.

etc...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/seychelles/9436488/British-round-the-world-yachtsman-Sean-Terry-murder-fears.html
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