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PostPosted: 03-08-2013 14:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have an example?
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PostPosted: 03-08-2013 21:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldnt want to go into too much detail for myself and it wasnt related to filming or otherwise recording any inappropriate activity ... more general performance and case management ... recourse to all the parties above proved completely fruitless and the amount of misdrection and actual lies flying around was crazy ... ultimately i had to wait for one individual to retire before the case went anywhere ... which it then did and remained on track until completion ... my advice now is not to bother complaining simply to work with what youve got ...
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PostPosted: 04-08-2013 12:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

So your gripe is based on one experience? Without knowing any more detail it is impossible for anyone to deduce whether you have a valid complaint or not.

The point that I'm getting at here is that nobody can provide any evidence that the Police have acted improperly against themselves or others and as I have shown, the original posters link is from a sensational young woman who has told us all a load of rubbish in that you cannot be arrested purely for filming a Police officer. Google it - nobody ever has.
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the above is based on my experience but i dont have a axe to grind ... im also aware at first hand of exactly the same issues in about a dozen other cases from the last few years ... and hear the same issues from trusted sources time and again ... the police tend to live in a different world from the rest of us ... one of the reasons they are so out of touch is that their complaints procedure is a closed circle and a foregone conclusion ... of course i could be wrong and they have a very evolved and transparent non-partisan complaints procedure that works most of the time ! if youve been through the process you will no doubt be left with a clear impression one way or the other ...
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PostPosted: 04-08-2013 17:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read about Katie Bowman and her travails with Thames Valley Police.
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PostPosted: 11-09-2013 02:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monstrosa wrote:
Read about Katie Bowman and her travails with Thames Valley Police.


Do you have a link?

The problem that we have here is that one person's gripe or complaint is being used as a representation of how Police all over the country deal with things.

It's like the assumption - 'all Police are racist' or 'All Police were bullied at school', which are simply ridiculous statements.
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PostPosted: 11-09-2013 06:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link to BBC story.
Link to Daily Mail story
Link to Telegraph story
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PostPosted: 11-09-2013 16:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, she had no problem with how he got her number when the attention was wanted, but did a 180 and lodged a formal complaint when she ended it? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11-09-2013 23:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. I wouldn't believe everything the BBC says or what any newspaper writes. It's totally preposterous to suggest that an entire Police force from the Chief Constable down has colluded to harass a member of the public. It just wouldn't happen!
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PostPosted: 22-09-2013 12:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

pornosonic1975 wrote:
This video is completely incorrect. Nobody in the UK has ever been arrested or imprisoned for filming the Police. There is no law against it.

I think that she might have been threatened with arrest for obstructing the Police here.

In the United States it is legal due to the 1st amendment even if there is a law against it. The law is null and void.
They arrest people for it anyway. Some jurisdictions received training that it is eavesdropping, which is totally false.
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PostPosted: 23-09-2013 12:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Exactly. I wouldn't believe everything the BBC says or what any newspaper writes. It's totally preposterous to suggest that an entire Police force from the Chief Constable down has colluded to harass a member of the public. It just wouldn't happen!


Perhaps not, but I could imagine a jilted and pissed off officer causing trouble for his ex and perhaps encouraging friends to do so. You don't need the whole force to be in on this, you just need a handful of people to be acting inappropriately and then a lack of will on the part of their managers to deal with the problem; perhaps because the matter complained about seems trivial or the complainant is herself difficult or inarticulate when raising her concerns.

No doubt there is more to this than meets the eye but I'm quite sure it is relatively easy for vindictive officers to engage in low level harassment of the sort described.
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