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PostPosted: 29-11-2004 16:31    Post subject: The Russian Stonehenge Reply with quote

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm this si tricky the report seems to stem from Pravda as well as another source but surely Discovery won't fall for their usual rubbish -would they?

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Another Stonehenge Found in Russia?

By Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Nov. 17, 2004 — Russian archaeologists have announced that they have found the remains of a 4,000-year-old structure that they compare to England's Stonehenge, according to recent reports issued by Pravda and Novosti, two Russian news services.

If the comparison holds true, the finding suggests that both ancient European and Russian populations held similar pagan beliefs that wove celestial cycles with human and animal life.

Since devotional objects and symbols are at the Russian site in the region of Ryazan, their meanings might shed light on pagan ceremonies that likely also took place at Stonehenge.

Just as the location of Stonehenge on Salisbury Plain in Wiltshire, England, appeared to be significant for the megalith's creators, so too did Ryazan for the Russian builders. The site overlooks the junction of two rivers, the Oka and Pronya. It was highly traveled by numerous cultures in ancient times.

Ilya Ahmedov, lead archaeologist of the Ryazan excavation and a researcher in the State History Museum of Russia's department of archaeological monuments, described the remains of the structure to Novosti.

Ahmedov said he and his team found ground holes indicating a monument with a 22.97-feet diameter circle consisting of 1.6-foot thick wooden poles spaced at equal distances from each other. Inside the circle is a large rectangular hole with evidence that four posts once stood in that spot.

The archaeologists believe the central structure would have led to spectacular views.

"Within the circle, two couples of the poles (in the rectangular area) make up gates," Ahmedov told Pravda. "Sunset can be seen through the gates if an observer stands in the center of the circle. One more pole outside the circle points at the sunrise."

The researchers found a small ceramic vessel in the central hole. The vessel is decorated with a zigzag design, which Ahmedov said resembles the rays of the sun, and wavy lines that he believes symbolize water. Lying next to the vessel was a bronze awl in a birch bark casing and an "altar of animal bones," according to a press release from Informnauka, the Russian science news agency .

Outside of the circle, the archaeologists excavated two other vessels without any ornamentation. The research team said forest dwellers that originally came from Iran likely made these two objects. They lived in the Ryazan area during the Bronze Age 4,000 years ago.

Fragments of human bones and teeth also were found outside the circle's boundary. Ahmedov and his colleagues think they might have belonged to a tribal chief who was posthumously sanctified. Burial tombs also exist near Stonehenge.

Ahmedov explained that solar and lunar cults were related to a fertility cult and to the mythological link between life and death. The circular shape was thought to hold magical properties because it has no beginning or end and was regarded as a symbol of eternity.

"(A) parallel can be drawn to Stonehenge, which is close to our monument in terms of the erection date and initially also was made of wood," Ahmedov told Pravda. "However, no blood relationship could have existed between the peoples who erected Stonehenge and the Ryazan observatory. The latter evidently indicates the influence of (an) alien population (the Iranian forest dwellers) from the South-East of the Eurasian steppe."

Mike Pitt, author of the book "Hengeworld" and the editor of British Archaeology magazine, told Discovery News that he doubts Stonehenge directly influenced the construction of the Russian monument.

"There are no known connections between Russia and Britain at the time Stonehenge was built, so if there were any similarities between the two structures, they would have to be coincidence," Pitt said.

He added, "Stonehenge is unique, but it is possible to see precursors and inspiration for its design in timber structures that are now quite common in Britain, not least around Stonehenge, but as yet seen nowhere else, not even across the Channel in France."

Ahmedov and his team plan to excavate the Ryazan site again in the summer, when they hope to investigate another line of pole holes that they spotted 32.8 feet away from the circular monument.


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PostPosted: 03-12-2004 23:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was another Russian 'Stonehenge' article by Pravda in April 2003.
(Don't you just cringe when every new megalithic discovery is called the 'new' Stonehenge?!)...

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The central part of Russia's Ryazan region is famous for its advantageous geographical location. At all times different peoples passed across the place either from the west to the east, or from the south to the north. The wonderful height over the junction of the Russian rivers Oka and Pronya received people of different cultures living there, the fact has been proved by archaeologists after numerous excavations held in the region. However, archaeological excavations held in Spasskaya Luka last summer were a surprise even for worldly-wise participants of expeditions organized by the State History Museum. The highest point of the hill covered a 4,000-year sanctuary resembling Stonehenge.

The structure of the monument suggested archaeologists an idea that it could be built for astronomic purposes... The researchers say that pagan priests observed not only sunrises and sunsets in that place. In the center of one of the holes outside the pagan temple they found pieces of a vessel and human bones placed close to the vessel. These are signs of sacrifice made among the mysterious poles.



Full article here: http://english.pravda.ru/society/2003/04/04/45641.html
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PostPosted: 31-01-2005 09:07    Post subject: Archaeologists find 'Russian Stonehenge' Reply with quote

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Monday 31st January, 2005

Archaeologists find 'Russian Stonehenge'
Big News Network.com Friday 28th January, 2005 (UPI)

Russian archaeologists have found the site of a 4,000-year-old concentric wooden structure resembling Britain's Stonehenge, the Art Newspaper reported Friday.

Evidence of the structure was found near Ryazan southeast of Moscow at the confluence of the Oka and Pronya rivers.

The area long known for its archaeological treasures was settled by tribes migrating from Eurasia thousands of years ago.

The report quoted Ilha Ahmedov of Moscow's State History Museum as saying a recent dig had uncovered evidence of a circular structure that would have been formed of wooden pillars and another circular structure of pillars surrounding it. The pillars have not survived, he said.

A number of archaeological items found at the site have been dated by Bronze Age experts to the third millennium B.C., according to Ahmedov. The British Stonehenge is constructed of stone and is believed to have been built in three phases between 1800-1400 B.C. It shows evidence of five concentric rings of megaliths.


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PostPosted: 03-12-2013 19:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't find a better place for this:

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In Russia, in the Caucasus mountains, not far from the cities Tzelentzchik, Touapse, Novorossiysk and Sochi, there are hundreds of megalithic monuments. The Russians call them dolmens. Russian and foreign archaeologists have not yet discovered their use. All these megalithic dolmens you see below in the pictures are dated from 10,000 years to 25,000 years ago


http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/12/25000-year-old-buildings-found-in-russia-2444558.html
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PostPosted: 03-12-2013 19:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

uair01 wrote:
Couldn't find a better place for this:
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In Russia, in the Caucasus mountains, not far from the cities Tzelentzchik, Touapse, Novorossiysk and Sochi, there are hundreds of megalithic monuments. The Russians call them dolmens. Russian and foreign archaeologists have not yet discovered their use. All these megalithic dolmens you see below in the pictures are dated from 10,000 years to 25,000 years ago

http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/12/25000-year-old-buildings-found-in-russia-2444558.html

How about here? Wink

The Russian Stonehenge

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PostPosted: 03-12-2013 20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep! This would be the place.

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