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PostPosted: 24-02-2014 08:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how does Scientology stand on gay marriage?
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PostPosted: 24-02-2014 17:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone knows there's no such thing as a gay Scientologist.
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PostPosted: 25-02-2014 08:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the only place online that I've found without the blatant "pro-scientology" (I can't capitalize it...I just...can't) posts. Every time I see an article criticizing "scientology", there's always a handful of puppets crooning it's praises.

Why is that? I'm sure they know we're talking about them....
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PostPosted: 26-02-2014 17:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

There aren't as many members as the "church" claims, so maybe there's only so many to go around? Or maybe we're too cranky even for them?!
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PostPosted: 28-02-2014 06:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there's been murmurs recently that OSA's (Scientology's office of special affairs) internet activity has been mysteriously lacking of late. Normally one sees spikes of activity (downvotes, negative comments toward critics and the like) at certain times, especially when Scn worker's "stats" are due (in other words, "striking a blow" against critics counts toward the worker's stats for that week) but it does seem very quiet on the internet lately.

This leads to questions about what's going on inside the organization, for those who keep an eye on such things.

As for why they don't bother much with the FT message board - well, there is a lot of questioning, examination and criticism of any and all religious and self-help systems here, and it's not primarily focused on Scientology, so I'm sure they have bigger problems to worry about than us lot.

*I'm going to add my standard disclaimer here when it comes to this subject - I'm not against Scientology per se, and if someone is happy and gets benefits from the practice, that's great. However, I am against the abuse of human rights (which the COS has been accused of) and don't believe anyone should be stopped from speaking freely about their experience with the church.
Just sayin'
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PostPosted: 05-04-2014 08:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Book critical of Scientology, banned from America for 27 years, now goes on sale in US
British writer Robert Miller's expose┬┤of religion's founder L. Rob Hubbard finds US publisher
Joanna Walters, New York
10:13PM BST 30 Mar 2014

A British book the Church of Scientology managed to block in America is finally on sale in the US 27 years after it was published elsewhere in the world.
The book, Bare-Faced Messiah: The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard, written by Russell Miller, a British journalist, and originally published in 1987, appeared in print and tablet editions in the US earlier this month.
The book exposes many of the boasts of Mr Hubbard, the late founder of Scientology, about his early life and achievements as outright lies.

It was heavily cited in a recent US best-seller Going Clear, by Lawrence Wright, and this latest publication adds to a series of attacks and high-profile member defections that have undermined the oddball religion followed by celebrities such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Elizabeth Moss of Mad Men fame.

Bare-Faced Messiah exposes Mr Hubbard's claims that he was one of America's earliest nuclear physicists and a medical doctor as untrue. He actually dropped out of George Washington University and never received a degree. It also debunks many claims Mr Hubbard made about a prosperous childhood spent breaking horses on a Montana ranch and travelling in Asia communing with holy men and mystics.

The book is echoed closely in aspects of the 2012 film The Master, with the late Philip Seymour Hoffman playing Mr Hubbard, where the rise of Scientology is portrayed as little more than a confidence trick performed by the founder on gullible believers.

Mr Hubbard was a science fiction writer and developed a series of theories and philosophies into a religion in the 1950s based on spiritual rehabilitation and the notion of followers being immortal beings derived from extra-terrestrial forces. Mr Hubbard died in 1986.

Robert Miller has updated some of the introduction to his book but essentially it is the same material that was published the year after Mr Hubbard's death.
At the time the Church of Scientology sued to get it banned in the US via the courts. After two years of legal battles, Mr Miller's lawyers abandoned their side's efforts and the book was available everywhere except the US for the next two-plus decades.

Now the new, independent US publisher Silvertail Books is putting out Bare-Faced Messiah in America.
It's website describes the book as telling the story of "a penniless science fiction writer who...became a millionaire prophet and convinced his adoring followers that he alone could save the world".
The publisher also lists prominently a book investigating Scientology by another British journalist, John Sweeney, titled Church of Fear

Scientology has increasingly come under fire in the last two to three years from previous long-term followers and staff members accusing it of pressuring followers for donations, cutting defectors off from their families and subjecting staff to overwork and humiliating forms of discipline.
The Church of Scientology strongly and consistently dismisses such criticisms as inaccurate gossip by a disaffected few.

Robert Miller's book acknowledges Mr Hubbard's charisma and "mad genius" but attempts to debunk many of his claims and core preachings.
Mr Miller told the New York Post: "It's always been an utter mystery to me that anybody could read Bare-Faced Messiah and then still take Scientology seriously. You know, to have a founder with a track record like his doesn't make any sense to me, but there it is."
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PostPosted: 05-04-2014 12:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Book of Mormon was also based on anearlky SF novel. Joe Smith, another bare faced Messiah, claimed the bookj was recited to him by an angel.

As was Muhammad, he also had angels recite the Koran to him.
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