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PostPosted: 09-05-2014 21:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wait for the condemnations of this culturally insensitive arrest. Whats that I hear from the SWP?


What has the Socialist Workers' Party got to do with it?
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PostPosted: 09-05-2014 21:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ramonmercado wrote:
Wait for the condemnations of this culturally insensitive arrest. Whats that I hear from the SWP?


What has the Socialist Workers' Party got to do with it?


Oh, you're not supposed to interfere in other cultures according to them. Maybe I'm just a bit cranky.
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PostPosted: 21-06-2014 12:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

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60 cases of female genital mutilation discovered in Swedish school

Up to 60 cases of genital mutilation among elementary school girls have been discovered in Norrköping in eastern Sweden since March, local media reported. Among the cases, 28 girls were subjected to the most severe form of genital mutilation.

The abuse was discovered by health services in a Norrköping school in eastern Sweden, according to a report in local newspaper Norrköpings Tidningar.

Half of the 60 cases were detected in the same year in elementary school. Twenty-eight of these girls were subjected to the most severe form of genital mutilation, when all external genitalia is removed and the genital area is sewn together, with a small opening for urinating left.

Girls exhibiting severe symptoms were the easiest to detect, Petra Blom Andersson, coordinator of the Central Student Health Service, told Norrköpings Tidningar. She added that recurring headaches and severe menstrual cramps were important signals. ...
http://rt.com/news/167368-genital-mutilation-sweden-girls/
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PostPosted: 21-06-2014 14:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vile. Poor old Sweden seems to have found itself in a the midst of a multiculti nightmare, despite having the best of intentions. Sad
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PostPosted: 21-06-2014 16:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotesque. Sad

Detection is a pretty hollow thing for those who have already been FGM'ed... even if it gives us a clearer picture of what is going on... but how to get into prevention? God only knows. Sad
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PostPosted: 21-06-2014 16:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrest all of the parents involved.
Create a targeted program of education, with the aim of enlightening all people who are most likely to be involved in this practice. Use coercion if necessary.
Repeat ad nauseam.

Likely outcome over a long period of time will be:
(a) The people who persist will eventually leave the country
(b) The people left behind will eventually conform
(c) Fewer instances will occur because everybody will know it's evil and they are more likely to be rumbled
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PostPosted: 21-06-2014 19:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mythopoeika wrote:
Arrest all of the parents involved.
Create a targeted program of education, with the aim of enlightening all people who are most likely to be involved in this practice. Use coercion if necessary.
Repeat ad nauseam.

Likely outcome over a long period of time will be:
(a) The people who persist will eventually leave the country
(b) The people left behind will eventually conform
(c) Fewer instances will occur because everybody will know it's evil and they are more likely to be rumbled


Deport all of the parents after they have finished their prison sentences. The children should be taken into care and given citizenship.
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PostPosted: 21-06-2014 19:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

ramonmercado wrote:
Mythopoeika wrote:
Arrest all of the parents involved.
Create a targeted program of education, with the aim of enlightening all people who are most likely to be involved in this practice. Use coercion if necessary.
Repeat ad nauseam.

Likely outcome over a long period of time will be:
(a) The people who persist will eventually leave the country
(b) The people left behind will eventually conform
(c) Fewer instances will occur because everybody will know it's evil and they are more likely to be rumbled


Deport all of the parents after they have finished their prison sentences. The children should be taken into care and given citizenship.


I forgot that one - add it to the list!
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PostPosted: 22-06-2014 12:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Egypt faces its first FGM trial - Africa - World - The Independent

In a country where 90 per cent of women suffer this mutilation, villagers are rallying round the doctor who performed the procedure on a young girl who subsequently died

Patients still queue outside the house of Dr Raslan Fadl in the Nile delta village of Diyarb Buqtaris. In the village, many parents say that they, too, would still have their daughter operated on, despite the death of a 13-year-old girl after a procedure to mutilate her genitals in June last year.

Dr Fadl and the girl’s father are the first in Egypt to be prosecuted for the practice, which was banned in 2008. The ongoing trial is an important step in the global fight against female genital mutilation (FGM), women’s rights advocates say, but also underlines the persistence of the tradition and the difficult struggle to seek accountability for victims.

Genital cutting typically takes place between nine and 12 years old, mostly at the hands of doctors. A study has suggested that more than half of medical students support the continuation of the practice, despite the worldwide outrage it provokes.

On 6 June last year, the father of 13-year-old Suhair al-Bata’a took her to Dr Fadl for the procedure.

Suhair did not want to go, her grandmother told The Independent on Sunday last week, in an interview at the girl’s squat, thatched-roof house. “She cried, she refused,” she said. Still, her father took her, he later testified to police.

The procedure went wrong, and she was rushed to hospital. A forensic report lists the cause of her death as allergic reaction to penicillin.

Like many others, the case may never have come to light had Suhair not died, and had her father not originally told police that the doctor had performed FGM. The father later changed his story, prosecutors now claim, to say that Dr Fadl had been operating on genital warts. But activists campaigned to have the case reopened and in March the prosecution commenced.

“She was a sweet girl, like honey,” Suhair’s grandmother said, her voice cracking slightly. She has another granddaughter, 10, who is Suhair’s cousin. Would this young girl, too, be cut? “It’s up to her mother,” her grandmother said. “It is [good for girls]. Me and my five sisters were circumcised. It’s only tradition. We came into this life and our families had the custom of doing this to us.”

The family home in Diyarb Buqtaris The family home in Diyarb Buqtaris The practice is so deeply entrenched in Egypt – particularly in rural communities, but also in cities – that it is known as “the pharaonic custom”. In only three other countries is it more prevalent – Djibouti, Guinea and Somalia.

The court case underscores a broader cultural clash between modernity and tradition. In the West, FGM is considered abhorrent, and prominent figures from Hillary Clinton to Angelina Jolie have condemned it. But in Egypt, the act is not universally dismissed. More than 90 per cent of women in Egypt have undergone the procedure, according to Unicef.

In rural Egypt, in the poor and less well-educated families among whom the practice is most common, it is supposed to curb women’s sexual appetites, and keep them faithful. In fact, sexual desire is undiminished, but sex becomes painful. Women who were subjected to the procedure describe pain and often prolonged bleeding, infections and trauma. The World Health Organisation estimates that 125 million girls and women alive today have been subjected to FGM with “no health benefits” – with procedures mostly carried out between infancy and 15.

In Egypt, FGM is “supported by both men and women, usually without question, and anyone departing from the norm may face condemnation, harassment and social exclusion”, Unicef said in 2010.

Although poorer communities associate genital cutting with religious values, Egypt’s leading Muslim religious official says that it is forbidden. The Muslim Brotherhood officially backs the prohibition, although some members say the procedure is acceptable under certain circumstances.

In 2012, an official Brotherhood website published an article on FGM stating: “Where it does have to be performed, its advantages are that it reduces sexual arousal to a rate that does not exceed the normal average at that time and causes a woman many problems because of her lack of satiation and frequent arousal.” ...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egypt-faces-its-first-fgm-trial-9554247.html
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PostPosted: 03-07-2014 11:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new report on this dreadful practice - there does now seem to be some impetus towards stopping this in the UK.

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Failure to stop FGM is a 'national scandal', say MPs

The failure to tackle female genital mutilation (FGM) is a "national scandal" with as many as 170,000 victims in the UK, MPs have said.

Failures by ministers, police and other agencies have led to the "preventable mutilation of thousands of girls", the Home Affairs Committee said.

It blamed a "misplaced concern for cultural sensitivities" for inaction, and called for a national action plan.

The government said it was working to end "this terrible form of abuse".

The report called for greater anonymity for victims and protection orders to prevent girls from being taken abroad.



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28127678

It strikes me that the easiest solution is to make this an offence of struct liability. If a child is mutilated in this way then their parent or carer is automatically guilty of aiding and abetting GBH.

"Working with communities" hasn't worked. The practice is too embedded and health professionals, teachers and other professionals too paralysed with fear that their career will be destroyed by accusations of racism to do anything about these poor girls. Convict and imprison the parents and depending on their immigration status, deport them afterwards. A few headline cases would wipe out this practice rapidly.
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PostPosted: 03-07-2014 23:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed it's hideous, nasty and something should be done but I can't help feeling its news prominence over the last few days is being held up as a shield for the destruction of the dossier of the Westminster paedophiles.
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PostPosted: 04-07-2014 08:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

That one still seems to be rumbling on, Jimv1. There were further disclosures today in the Telegraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10944652/Tory-MP-allegedly-found-with-child-porn-in-1980s-faced-no-charges-police-told.html

As I've said before, all these things whether among ordinary citizens, celebrities, religious fanatics, or senior members of the establishment need investigating and dealing with - we must have equality under the law. People like ourselves keeping up pressure is likely the only way that we can make the PTB's understand that is what the public demand.

For whatever reasons, over the last couple of years the façade of the establishment has cracked, and we need to keep pushing the crack further apart. Although the public has been relatively supine for a couple of decades, I think there is now a groundswell of real anger and concern out there.

The rise of UKIP and other fringe parties is an indicator that if the establishment does not wash its dirty linen and adjust its attitude on certain 'multicultural' issues , the public will turn to untried and probably unpleasant alternatives to 'get something done'. As we know from history, such radical changes rarely result in change for the better, but equally a system of government that is stagnant and unresponsive also forces unpredictable change.

edit: Also

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10945282/Child-abuse-files-were-dismissed-as-fantasies-of-a-deluded-man.html

on the child sex ring dossier. I should probably post those links under Yewtree as well?
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Isis orders all women and girls in Mosul to undergo FGM,

The "fatwa" issued by the Sunni Muslim fighters would potentially affect 4 million women and girls, the UN resident and humanitarian coordinator in Iraq, Jacqueline Badcock, told reporters in Geneva by videolink from Irbil.

"This is something very new for Iraq, particularly in this area, and is of grave concern and does need to be addressed," she said.

"This is not the will of Iraqi people, or the women of Iraq in these vulnerable areas covered by the terrorists," she added.

No one was immediately available for comment from Isis, which has led an offensive through northern and western Iraq.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/isis-women-girls-fgm-mosul-un

The latest from the thugs in ISIS. I am sure that all those right on people protesting about Israel in cities all over the world last weekend will be out in force to show their anger at at this latest horror from the region.

I shan't hold my breath, though.
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PostPosted: 24-07-2014 18:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw this earlier today on the Beeb and was incandescent with rage.

It's almost as if ISIS are reading the news and thinking 'Britain has a campaign against FGM right now...let's do this FGM thing all the more to get them all angry'.
Reactive evil?
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Doubts grow over Isis 'FGM edict' in Iraq

Doubts are growing about the authenticity of an edict attributed to the Sunni Islamist group Isis controlling the Iraqi city of Mosul about female genital mutilation (FGM).

A top UN official quoted from a statement saying that Isis wanted all females aged between 11 and 46 in the northern city to undergo the procedure.
Jacqueline Badcock said the decree was of grave concern.
But media analysts say the decree seen on social media may be a fake.
It has typos and language mistakes and is signed by "The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant", a name the group no longer uses, instead referring to itself as the Islamic State.

Some bloggers suggest that the alleged fatwa, which has been circulated on social media for about two days, may have been aimed at discrediting Isis.
Iraq is facing a radical Isis-led insurgency, with Mosul and other cities in the north-west under militant control.

The ritual cutting of girls' genitals is practised by some African, Middle Eastern and Asian communities in the belief it prepares them for adulthood or marriage.
FGM poses many health risks to women, including severe bleeding, problems urinating, infections, infertility and increased risk of newborn deaths in childbirth.

The UN General Assembly approved a resolution in December 2012 calling for all member states to ban the practice.

Earlier, Ms Badcock warned that the alleged Isis edict could affect nearly four million women and girls in and around the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.
The UN's resident and humanitarian co-ordinator in Iraq said the practice "is something very new for Iraq... and does need to be addressed".
She was talking to reporters via video link from the Kurdish provincial capital, Irbil.

Jenan Moussa, a correspondent for Dubai-based broadcaster Al AAan TV, said in a tweet that her contacts in Mosul had not heard of the edict.

Isis militants seized Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, in June, and have since taken over areas of the north-west and closed in on cities near Baghdad.
The group forced Christians in Mosul out of the city earlier this week and daubed their houses with the Arabic letter N to mark them out as Christians, apparently confiscating their properties, BBC Arab affairs editor Lina Sinjab says.

Ms Badcock said only 20 families from the ancient Christian minority now remain in Mosul, which Isis has taken as the capital of its Islamic state.
Thousands have fled into Kurdish-controlled territory in the north.

Some of the Christians who remained have converted to Islam, while others have opted to stay and pay the "jiyza", the tax imposed by Isis on non-Muslims, the UN official added.
Isis announced last month that it was creating an Islamic caliphate covering the land it holds in Iraq and Syria.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28466434
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