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Posted: 05-11-2009 01:41 Post subject: NASA= never a straight answer

Just wondered what peoples opinion of NASA was. As a government funded aeronautical program surrounded in the millitary, is it possible that they could be lying to us? Or perhaps not lying, but hiding things from us? Discuss! Smile

Personally, i think they are, but probably not through their own choice!

Posted: 05-11-2009 08:43 Post subject:

What is it you seem to think NASA is lying about?

Posted: 05-11-2009 13:12 Post subject:

Please not the moon landings again. Rolling Eyes

Posted: 05-11-2009 13:15 Post subject:

Ronson me old china, watch The Shining, and then you'll know FOR SURE THAT tHe mOoN lAnDiNgS wErE FaKe omg wtf!!1!

Posted: 05-11-2009 13:38 Post subject:

You forgot to take your pill again didn't you Scarg? Smile

Posted: 05-11-2009 14:15 Post subject:

YOU are.

Posted: 05-11-2009 23:42 Post subject:

I tell you one thing

If the US would put an end to their NASA funding, they would easily help with debt Very Happy

Posted: 06-11-2009 23:57 Post subject:

This was what I was trying to fathom when I launched that sparkling contribution to the ET debate that was the LCROSS thread.
NASA's policy seems to be to hide evidence of aliens in plain sight and pretend it isn't there. I've spent a lot of time going through the Apollo and Gemini transcripts, the Apollo Image Library , the Clementine Lunar Image Base and the associated mosaic images.

There is a lot more to the evidence than just misinterpreted phrases and people thinking they can see faces and cities (and it was NASA mission teams who started naming features on the Moon after cities!).Try this one: Apollo 16 Image Library AS16-116-18603. Five minutes perusal at most and all will be revealed. Failure to see anything could be indicative of some cognitive glitsch with effects opposite to those of pareidolia.

Posted: 07-11-2009 00:36 Post subject:

No there isn't. I suppiled a reasonable explanation for every one of your supposed alien images, but it comes down to a matter of interpretation. However, time will tell; as more and more probes survey the surface of the Moon and Mars from more and more different nations and fail to find any evidence whatsoever of aliens, how can you possibly continue to defend this proposition?

Are you waiting to be taken there in person to be convinced that there are no alien artifacts on the Moon or Mars, or are you prepared to take the word of the thousands of scentific researchers who are investigating these images?

Posted: 07-11-2009 00:39 Post subject:

Posted: 07-11-2009 00:48 Post subject:

Obviously I have a cognitive glitch because I see nothing but rocks.

Posted: 07-11-2009 01:28 Post subject:

I'm not sure if NASA conspiracy theories amount to much more than "How dare they not admit to this thing I've made up!" That's not to say there cannot be anomalies in their findings, but you don't get this level of suspicion with ESA, do you?

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Posted: 07-11-2009 05:21 Post subject:

Those close-ups do look interesting, but not because of possible artificiality. What little geology I remember from college suggests to me that the squarish slab looks more like a sedimentary rock than an igneous rock. But that is impossible, as there has never been that much water on the Moon.

But looks can be deceiving...

Posted: 07-11-2009 07:45 Post subject:

Granted you're not the only one who thinks the Taurus-Littrow pyramid is part of the rover floor - and I'm not so sure about that one myself now - but you put the CLIB image digger blade down to data corruption, which I find a far from reasonable explanation.
The new probes are not so much failing to find evidence as NASA are failing to publish it: the recently released Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter strip-image of the Apollo 17 landing site managed to feature the floor of the valley but missed all the interesting stuff, like the South Massif. Most of the evidence would need revisiting so by all means take me up there and show me it !
I should have posted a link to the nasa.gov Apollo Image Library itself, where there is an 1100kb version of the photo. You can see the staining in better detail too, and it has nothing to do with the artefacts in the pic.
The whatsallthisthen version even has a close-up of the cylinder, and no way is that a rock.The tone of the text isn't very sceptical either.
The rocks either side of the cylinder are leaning at the same angle and if you draw lines downward through them they would converge at a perfect 90 degrees. check out the 1100kb version, there's plenty more in there apart from the cylinder. Thousands of scientific researchers have not pronounced on this photo, and however many have examined Moon photos they weren't looking with evidence in mind.