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PostPosted: 03-10-2008 04:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I was trying to suggest is that if ghosts are electro-magnetic fields of some type they might very well be subject to all sorts of "telluric" forces.
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PostPosted: 03-10-2008 18:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I was trying to suggest is that if ghosts are electro-magnetic fields of some type they might very well be subject to all sorts of "telluric" forces.


Wouldn't we see more ghosts at times of thunderstorms then? Or even earthquakes?
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PostPosted: 04-10-2008 00:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wouldn't we see more ghosts at times of thunderstorms then?


Come again? Ghosts traditionally are most commonly experienced during thunderstorms!

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Or even earthquakes?


You may recall that ghosts were reported in droves all around the Indian Ocean littoral almost immediately following the December 26, 2004 tsunami.

It may be that while the sea water is actually rising around your nostrils you simply don't have time to look for ghosts, especially when your most pressing concern is to avoid becoming a ghost yourself. On the other hand has anybody bothered to ask the survivors if they had any ghostly experiences while escaping the "tidal" surge?

And the New Testament records that there was an earthquake immediately after Jesus Christ's death, during which event the dead came forth from their tombs.
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PostPosted: 05-10-2008 20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wouldn't we see more ghosts at times of thunderstorms then?


Come again? Ghosts traditionally are most commonly experienced during thunderstorms!


In folklore maybe, but I haven't heard of many in real life.

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Or even earthquakes?


You may recall that ghosts were reported in droves all around the Indian Ocean littoral almost immediately following the December 26, 2004 tsunami.

It may be that while the sea water is actually rising around your nostrils you simply don't have time to look for ghosts, especially when your most pressing concern is to avoid becoming a ghost yourself. On the other hand has anybody bothered to ask the survivors if they had any ghostly experiences while escaping the "tidal" surge?


Might be a bit insensitive! "Heard you barely escaped with your life there, yeah? Terrible. By the way, did you see a ghost or two?"

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And the New Testament records that there was an earthquake immediately after Jesus Christ's death, during which event the dead came forth from their tombs.


Again, folklore, not fact (as far as we know).
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PostPosted: 05-10-2008 23:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Again, folklore, not fact (as far as we know).


My own experience is that far more people (and by no means Christians only) regard the New Testament as History rather than as hearsay. At least to the non-miraculous elements.

There is no "break" in early Church History. The early Church Fathers, whose historicity is denied by nobody, were themselves the students of students of the original Apostles.

I wasn't taught that in Sunday School but in both my public high school and my public college World History classes.
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Yeah, but do you really believe Christ's crucifixion created a spate of zombies? What happened to them after they'd risen, for a start?
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I wonder if the "dead coming out of their graves" during the earthquake might mean nothing more than that corpses were thrown out of their sepulchers by the quake.

Might anyone in the congregation know if the Greek supports that?
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Not many people believe in supernatural or paranormal entities, but there is too much evidence to support the fact there are enitites out there.

Ghosts are realt to those who believe and can see them!
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While not exactly a 'Phantom hitch-hiker' I once heard a strange tale about the A386 Tavistock to Plymouth road.

Some years ago a popular daytime TV programme had a Halloween phone in where they asked members of the public to call with their spooky real life experiences.

One caller phoned in and told the story of what happened to them early one morning on the Tavi/Plymouth road. Up until that point I was not really taking much notice but as I have travelled that road many times I took an interest in the callers tale.

It seems that early one morning on his way to work in Plymouth when he spotted a young male and female holding hands and running fast at the side of the road. It looked like they were running from someone or something. Just as the driver was about to draw level with the couple, the female seemed to stumble and fell right into his path. He jammed on his breaks but because of his speed, and the distance from the couple he knew there was no way he could stop in time and he would inevitably hit the woman.

He braced himself for the impact as the woman went under the front of his car, but strangely felt nothing. When he at last came to a stop he looked into the rear view mirror expecting to see a horrible scene, but saw nothing. He got out of the car - no couple, no blood, no trace of any one around.

A bit later in the programme the presenters announced that after the original caller had phoned in and told his spooky story, they'd had several other people call in to say they had witnessed exactly the same thing on exactly the same stretch of road at other times.

This one has always stuck in my head, especially when I am on my own travelling that road late at night, or early in the morning Shocked
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There was a report on R4 just now about a road ghost in County Tyrone in Ireland. It seems that people are flocking to the area to see the ghostly old lady, and the local pub is doing well out of it.

The landlord was interviewed and says his son has seen the ghost. Very Happy

Here's a BBC News report.

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Traffic jam after 'ghost sighting'
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The apparent sighting was made outside Coalisland, County Tyrone

This time of year is traditionally associated with high spirits as revellers welcome in another year.

However, a spirit of a different kind has been causing a bit of a commotion outside Coalisland in County Tyrone.

An apparent sighting of a ghost has led to crowds of people descending on the Brackaville area over the holidays.

"At one point, there was a line of up to 60 cars on the Mullaghmoyle Road with people trying to spot it," said Sinn Féin Councillor Desmond Donnelly.

"It wasn't just one night, it was going on for a week or so over the holidays. I'm not sure how it all started - I wouldn't be one for ghosts, but you know how this type of thing spreads.

"If you ask me, it's more likely to be a reflection of the moon on the river that flows through the area. Although the talk is that what was seen was in the shape of a person."

Pat Hughes, speaking at the Central Bar in Coalisland, said the sighting had certainly got people in the town talking.

"Everybody's been talking about it in the bar and it has also caught the imagination of young people," he said.

"It has got to the stage where it's a bit like a drive-in movie."

As with these sorts of things, rumours about what was or was not seen quickly spread. It was claimed the apparition was a woman who had lived locally.

Warren Coates of the Northern Ireland Paranormal Research Association (NIPRA) said he was aware of "previous paranormal activity" in the area.

"It related to a phantom female hitchhiker, but if anybody down there would like us to investigate this latest sighting, we'd only be too happy to help," he said.
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PostPosted: 08-01-2009 15:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, thanks, I was hoping that someone else had heard that Radio 4 report. Was I insufficiently awake, or did the pub landlord say that the sighting wasn't of a figure as such, but "just a head" Shocked ?

I'm also fairly sure they said they were getting some "paranormal experts" in later today (don't know where from, but he said he expected them to bring EMF meters) to try and find out more.
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Ah, thanks, I was hoping that someone else had heard that Radio 4 report. Was I insufficiently awake, or did the pub landlord say that the sighting wasn't of a figure as such, but "just a head" Shocked ?

I'm also fairly sure they said they were getting some "paranormal experts" in later today (don't know where from, but he said he expected them to bring EMF meters) to try and find out more.


You heard right.
There was also the UFO and the wind turbine story right after. This could affect the FT's Strangenessometer for the first part of the year.
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PostPosted: 08-01-2009 19:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Today programme is on Listen Again, which I'll do when I have time. Then we'll know about the head question. Wink
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Wonderland - Series 2

2. The Ghostman of Skye

The Isle of Skye is a place marked out not just by its rugged Scottish beauty, but also by an extraordinarily high number of reports of ghost experiences. Local crofters, churchmen and policemen are among the myriad witnesses who claim to have seen a ghostchild, a headless woman, a strange light, or the island's most famous phantom - a ghost car that approaches before evaporating into the night.

With the memory of his deceased wife Nina still fresh in his mind, former missionary Donald Angus Maclean has set himself up as a collector of the island's ghost stories. As he investigates the strange and sometimes sinister tales, it's revealed that he too is haunted - not by visions of disappearing cars or headless women, but by the memory of his dead wife.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nt7sd/Wonderland_Series_2_The_Ghostman_of_Skye/


This is a strange and disturbing story - I post it here because of the ghost car, which may be one already mentioned here, but the story could have gone on other threads.

It's difficult to follow at times because of the Hebridean accents, and you may wish for sub-titles - and frequently they are provided! (Only one speaker actually uses Gaelic though!)
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I cycle back along a cycle track in the middle of country, which passes by a cemetery, the track runs next to the highway. The highway has had it's share road accidents and casualties.

When we moved to the village where the track ends, the locals where amused to know that I'd be cycling along the track at night and they told me about the local phantom hitchhiker that has been picked up along this stretch. It is female, but no one can give any information of when she was last picked up, although two people have stated the police were the last to do so. Obviously she gets into the car, the driver hits the village, turns around to talk to the girl and she has vanished from the car.


I've not seen her, but I have seen "Puffer Jacket", (I actually thought I'd spotted puffer jacket a week or so ago and it's been ages since the last time). Puffer Jacket is one of those white puffer jackets that were popular a few years ago, you can just see what looks like a person wearing one up ahead just about to turn a corner. When you get closer it has gone and there is no way it can get off the track. It's always along the same stretch of about 50meters. I've seen it twice heading north and once heading south, always at night or predawn.

The other thing that has been spoken about is someone knew someone who spotted just a pair of legs walking along the track, a pair of male legs with trousers that vanish past the waist. I'm not that keen to spot this apparition all alone at midnight in the middle of nowhere! Shocked
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