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PostPosted: 13-02-2010 15:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

hokum6 wrote:
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The apparent pools of molten metal were actually caused by spontaneous combustion.

I can't say that I find those totally convincing counter arguments.


Okay, well suggest another argument then. Perhaps their reasoning for the pools of metal is wrong, but it wasn't bombs for the many reasons already discussed. Once again we're back to conspiracy theories that rely on imaginary technology and completely unrealistic plots.

Oh no. I don't have to put forward another argument. I simply need to point out that the spontaneous combustion argument seems simply preposterous.

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PostPosted: 13-02-2010 19:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, maybe it is, but there were no bombs or thermite so unless you'd like to suggest an alternative that's about the best explanation there is right now. I'm open to anything that doesn't involve fantasy technology.
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PostPosted: 13-02-2010 21:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get enough heat near combustibles it will catch fire through spontaneous combustion.
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PostPosted: 14-02-2010 01:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

tonyblair11 wrote:
If you get enough heat near combustibles it will catch fire through spontaneous combustion.


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Surely it wouldn't be spontaneous if heat was applied?
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PostPosted: 14-02-2010 03:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cavynaut wrote:
tonyblair11 wrote:
If you get enough heat near combustibles it will catch fire through spontaneous combustion.


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Surely it wouldn't be spontaneous if heat was applied?



Building heat will ignite without an eternal flame. That's pretty much how spontaneous combustion works. You might be thinking of spontaneous human combustion where there is usually no sign of an eternal heat source. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14-02-2010 09:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cavynaut wrote:
tonyblair11 wrote:
Surely it wouldn't be spontaneous if heat was applied?


Although I'd agree that the explanation originally being referred to by PM doesn't seem very satisfactory I think the phrase 'spontaneous combustion' might have confused the issue. 'Spontaneous' fires occur all the time, only they are never really spontaneous in the true sense of that word. So-called spontaneous fires are usually the result of a combination of slow oxidation and trapped heat and I think this is the process the article is referring to, although the author does seem to do so rather clumsily.

At this point haystacks are often mentioned but 'spontaneous' fires are fairly common in buildings too (although the original heat sources involved may be different).
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PostPosted: 24-02-2010 10:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ladder like piece falling as mentioned in the second post is part of the WTC inner core.

inner core is shown in this photo of construction

http://www.picassodreams.com/.a/6a00d83455ad0369e201053566d3df970b-800wi

The inner core fell slower than the rest of the building.
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