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| Anonymous |
 Posted: 27-08-2002 22:07 Post subject: The Ark of the Covenant |
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http://www.naplesnews.com/02/08/neapolitan/d810296a.htm
| Quote: | Raymond Matthew Wray of the American Catholic magazine Crisis, who wrote about his own search for the lost ark, said there are five ark scenarios:
The Hollywood version had the ark sitting in a U.S. government warehouse. Some think ancient Israelites hid it under the Temple when the Babylonians invaded. Others say the Babylonians stole or destroyed it. The amateur archaeologist Ron Wyatt, who has since died, claimed he rediscovered the ark under the hill where Christ was crucified.
There's no evidence for any of this.
Then there's No. 5, the Ethiopian scenario.
The Bible reports that the Queen of Sheba visited King Solomon. Most scholars say she came from present-day Yemen. But Ethiopian legend maintains she was from that country and gave birth to Solomon's son Menelik, who founded a monarchy that lasted until 1974.
This tradition says when Menelik visited Solomon, his aides stole the ark and brought it home. It was kept for centuries in other locations but is now said to be held under strictest secrecy in the town of Axum (or Aksum). |
So... where is it really? |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 27-08-2002 23:39 Post subject: |
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| It's in Scotland. Along with the Holy Grail, Jesus' body, and various old and important stones. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 00:32 Post subject: |
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Kilwinning, Scotland.
The knights Templars may have brought it here.
The Templars did excavate the ruins of Solomons Temple and they found tunnels and cavities as well as some of the treasure that is mentioned in the copper scroll. In the late 19th Century an excavation of Solomons Temple revealed some old archaeological shafts that were estimated to be from the 12th Century. Inside the shafts were found some Templar goods. Swords, seals etc,etc. They suddenly became incredible wealthy and the most powerful military movers since the Roman empire.
Personaly, I believe that they found heretical scrolls which revealed additional information that contradicted their theology.
This could have been the reason that they were condemned as heretics and destroyed. When they were condemned, many of them fled to Scotland, which had been their home anyway.
12 Ships dissapeared from La Rochelle dock on Friday the 13th of October taking with them their treasure as well as the kings and other nobles wealth for the were the first multi-national bankers.
Remember that much of the dead sea scrolls and other apocryphal papers do indeed clash with present christion belief.
We have found thousands of them. I think the Templars found some a little bit earlier than us. |
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ruffready Ruff says.. Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Total posts: 3318 Location: Florida Age: 3 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 00:37 Post subject: where is the ARK? |
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| Maybe at area 51? |
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| ogopogo3 Just a CabbageHead Joined: 25 Oct 2001 Total posts: 1684 Location: Minnesota Age: 41 Gender: Male |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 03:00 Post subject: |
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It is certainly true that if the Ark was present during the fracas it would have definately been melted down and put to some other purpose.
However, the Ark dissapears in the Bible. I dont mean that there is a verse where the Ark vanishes. I mean that it is no longer spoken of. If it had been destroyed in 586bc it would almost certainly be mentioned in the scriptures. Indeed its destruction would feature so highly in the old testement that its final hours would have been greatly overplayed and exaggerated.
There really is some compelling evidence to be found when studying the Ethiopian legend. If this legend has any basis of truth it escaped the afore mentioned conflicts. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 03:03 Post subject: |
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| I've heard it was under the Dome of the Rock, and once the Israelis kick the arabs out to rebuild Solomon's Temple, it'll show up. I can't remember who is involved, but several years ago, I recall some guys saying they knew for a fact it was there, but they couldn't get the Muslims to let them at it. My question is, how would the Muslims react to it being there? Would they destroy or hide it, since it would be viewed as "evidence" promoting Israel's view of the world? After all, Jews and Muslims can't both be right. |
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| ElishevaBarsabe Really?!
Great Old One Joined: 19 Mar 2002 Total posts: 942 Location: in the fog Gender: Female |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 03:53 Post subject: Re: where is the ARK? |
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| ruffready wrote: |
Maybe at area 51? |
Of course, but Area 51 itself has probably moved to Scotland (see Cosmicbaby's posting).
I say we all go for a visit. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 04:20 Post subject: |
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You are correct!!
Area 51 is in my Garden.
There is a aeroplane now and gee whizz its a funny shape. |
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| ruffready Ruff says.. Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Total posts: 3318 Location: Florida Age: 3 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 04:44 Post subject: area 51 re: st.clair |
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| On me dad's side ther from the "Mc.Rae" clan can I get in? |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 07:47 Post subject: |
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| TorgosPizza wrote: |
Would they destroy or hide it, since it would be viewed as "evidence" promoting Israel's view of the world? After all, Jews and Muslims can't both be right. |
Muslims regard both Jews and Christians as 'Peoples of the Book', since all three faiths venerate the OT, and recognise many of the prophets as genuine voices of God or Allah..
Discovery of the Ark would only strengthen the faith of all of them in the OT (and probably lead to even more fundamentalist rants from various quarters...). |
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| ninja_cat shadow warrior? Joined: 03 Aug 2001 Total posts: 672 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 07:54 Post subject: |
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| rynner wrote: |
Discovery of the Ark would only strengthen the faith of all of them in the OT (and probably lead to even more fundamentalist rants from various quarters...). |
Maybe if we find it we should just cover it up again and walk quietly away, this is not a good time to stir up more religious mania. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 09:07 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ninja
[B]Maybe if we find it we should just cover it up again and walk quietly away, this is not a good time to stir up more religious mania. |
Why not, Ninja? Is there a great deal of mania going on currently of which I'm unaware? Surely, you don't view the States/Iraq thing as religious in nature, and I'm not so sure the current struggle against Bin Laden is, either. I question the nature of his motives, since killing innocents is taboo in virtually every modern religion. Rather, I'd refer you to this and suggest again a desire for power over others is the motive. Perhaps if people paid greater heed to religion they profess to follow, things would go much more smoothly. In fact, if we were to discover this magical artifact, it might compel some of us to be on better behavior. Or so my archaic mind would like to think. |
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| ninja_cat shadow warrior? Joined: 03 Aug 2001 Total posts: 672 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 09:58 Post subject: |
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Maybe thats the point of religion - power over others? To clear up what I meant but didn't quite express - it should read as organised religion being a problem. As to the religious mayhem going on, maybe you are right - alot of it being done in the name of religion for the sake of absolute power. Still beggars belief in this day and age of 'scientific reason' that such a notion can have so much sway over people.
As to finding this relic, I really do believe that it would stir up a lot of religious fundamentalism as people fight for the right of ownership of the relic. |
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| minordrag still a drag
Great Old One Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Total posts: 1136 Location: Hovering just above the roof. Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 28-08-2002 13:50 Post subject: |
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| Seems to me that the Ark was used almost solely to kick the heathen's ass. |
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