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inkedmagiclady Queen of the Universe
Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Total posts: 697 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Age: 49 Gender: Female |
 Posted: 28-10-2003 06:15 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The Apopsicle: The Meet-Up. |
 Can someone just email me for the popsicle? I will do my best to be there. Thanks. 
edit: just want to let you know I am not a sock puppet either. I have enough trouble keeping track of myself. |
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| lopaka3 Great Old One Joined: 17 Sep 2001 Total posts: 2154 Location: Near the corner of a Big Continent Gender: Male |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 06:16 Post subject: |
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This from a woman who posted earlier today about having the Buddha statue in her home fissure during the Loma Prieta earthquake?! Yikes. [about the lack of excitement]
Don't worry, as someone said in one of the threads about supervolcanoes or killer asteroids or viruses or floods (you get the idea) 'The end of the world will be like buses, you wait ages for one, then two come along at once'.
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
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| Posted: 28-10-2003 06:17 Post subject: |
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| lopaka wrote: |
Well...I haven't checked the calender yet this week. But I'll just wait for the post in 'Announcements'- The Apopsicle: The Meet-Up. |
I am sorely tempted to post the apocalypse on the fortean calendar entry for tomorrow. Just to see if anyone picks up on it. I'm sure no one looks at it. |
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| inkedmagiclady Queen of the Universe
Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Total posts: 697 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Age: 49 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 06:27 Post subject: |
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There is a Fortean calendar?
| Quote: | Originally posted by lopaka
This from a woman who posted earlier today about having the Buddha statue in her home fissure during the Loma Prieta earthquake?! Yikes. [about the lack of excitement]
Don't worry, as someone said in one of the threads about supervolcanoes or killer asteroids or viruses or floods (you get the idea) 'The end of the world will be like buses, you wait ages for one, then two come along at once'. |
I just can't get enough. 
As long as I have enough time to post something here on the FT messageboard before we all evaporate. |
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| theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
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| inkedmagiclady Queen of the Universe
Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Total posts: 697 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Age: 49 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 06:40 Post subject: |
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| Cool! I will check the calendar often. I must know when this popsicle thing is so I can have my toes done and make-up ON. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 07:48 Post subject: |
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The apocalypse brought to you live in realtime updates. Only on FT.
I like the sound of that. |
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| littleblackduck Great Old One Joined: 16 Aug 2001 Total posts: 470 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 22:47 Post subject: Charles Hoy Fort Birthdays |
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I think somebody could at least put Charles Fort's birthdays in the calendar, but I can't see how it works.
Charles Fort was born on August 6, 1874, and again (according to other sources) on August 9, 1874, a nice trick which only Fort or a Fortean can pull off. I share one of his birthdays.
1874 is one of my favourite years: Fort was born; Lewis Carroll published THE HUNTING OF THE SNARK; and Jack London (author of THE VOYAGE OF THE SNARK) and co-builder of the ship, THE SNARK, was born.
Coincidence? Mr. London is faux reticent on the question. Nudge nudge, wink wink.
Forteans ought to celebrate Fort's birthday with a Fortean Snark hunt--don't forget your forks and railroad shares. Watch out for the Boojums or you will quietly vanish awayyyyyy.... |
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| littleblackduck Great Old One Joined: 16 Aug 2001 Total posts: 470 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 22:54 Post subject: Apopsicle: The World Will End in Sugary Ice |
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| lopaka wrote: |
Well...I haven't checked the calender yet this week. But I'll just wait for the post in 'Announcements'- The Apopsicle: The Meet-Up. |
Apopsicle: So the rumours are true then? The World will end in Ice rather than Fire. Sir Fred Hoyle is vindicated.
Not to mention, Robert Frost (but then he was prejudiced by what THE NEW SCIENTIST calls the nominative imperative:
Robert Frost (1874–1963). Miscellaneous Poems to 1920. 1920.
2. Fire and Ice
(From Harper’s Magazine, December 1920.)
SOME say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice, 5
I think I know enough of hate
To know that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice. |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 23:03 Post subject: |
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You may jest, but...
'Perfect solar storm' sends massive eruption Earth's way | Quote: | The third most powerful solar flare ever recorded erupted from the Sun earlier today, and scientists say Earth could feel the effects with communications disruptions and loss of power.
At about 6 a.m. EST (1100 GMT), satellites watched as the event occurred. The flare was significantly larger than several unleashed since last week.
"This is the real thing," says John Kohl, a solar astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) and principal investigator for the Ultraviolet Coronagraph Spectrometer on board NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spacecraft.
"The eruption was positioned perfectly. It's headed straight for us like a freight train, so a major geomagnetic storm is bound to happen when it reaches us on October 29th or 30th."
"It was slightly more powerful that the famous March 6, 1989 flare which was related to the disruption of the power grids in Canada," Dr. Paal Brekke, the European Space Agency SOHO deputy project scientist reported.
Today's solar flare was classified as an X18-category explosion, meaning that it can trigger planet-wide radio blackouts and long-lasting radiation storms.
"Last week's (coronal mass ejection) hit the Earth with only a glancing blow," says Kohl, although it was sufficient to disrupt airline communications. "Today's eruption was pointed directly at us, and is expected to have major effects."
"We are waiting for the prediction of the geomagnetic storm level from NOAA (the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)," says Kohl. "What we know at this point is that the flare was nearly perfectly positioned near the center of the Sun, and that a halo coronal mass ejection has left the Sun and is heading toward the Earth. The geomagnetic storm is likely to be a strong one, and will last about 24 hours."
"We may be in for some great aurora," Brekke said.
Such solar storms have the potential for knocking out communications and power grids on Earth, and can be harmful to orbiting satellites and astronauts.
The International Space Station's current resident crew -- commander Michael Foale and flight engineer Alexander Kaleri -- will protect themselves by moving to a portion of the outpost that provides the most shielding from radiation.
NOAA classifies geomagnetic storms on a scale from 1 to 5. Initial indications show that this has the potential to be a G5 storm - the top of the scale. The most benign effect of such a storm would be bright auroras visible from more southern latitudes than usual. However, the geomagnetic storm triggered by the CME also could interfere with satellite communications; disrupt power grids (as occurred in the 1989 Quebec blackout); even short out orbiting satellites, rendering them permanently inoperable.
"We've already had to shut down our SOHO instrument for safety reasons. It's getting blasted by high-energy particles from this solar flare," says Kohl. "Of more concern, geosynchronous communications satellites are likely to be affected." In California, where raging wildfires have damaged many microwave communication antennas on the ground, satellite communications have been crucial to emergency efforts. Emergency personnel should be prepared for potential disruptions and communication interference.
"There's no direct danger to people on the ground," Kohl adds, "and I'm sure that NASA is monitoring the situation for any potential effects on the space station crew, and that they are taking appropriate precautions."
According to NOAA, a G5-class geomagnetic storm can have the following effects:
Power systems: Widespread voltage control problems and protective system problems can occur, some grid systems may experience complete collapse or blackouts. Transformers may experience damage.
Spacecraft operations: May experience extensive surface charging, problems with orientation, uplink/downlink and tracking satellites.
Other systems: Pipeline currents can reach hundreds of amps, HF (high frequency) radio propagation may be impossible in many areas for one to two days, satellite navigation may be degraded for days, low-frequency radio navigation can be out for hours, and aurora has been seen as low as Florida and southern Texas (typically 40 degrees geomagnetic lat.).
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| inkedmagiclady Queen of the Universe
Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Total posts: 697 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Age: 49 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 28-10-2003 23:51 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rynner
You may jest, but... |
Well maybe if I go over to the ghost, crypto, conspiracy, ufo and other threads, and complain that there is not enough action like I did in this thread, the Universe will respond accordingly?
BTW, wonderful informative and poetic posts, littleblackduck! |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 29-10-2003 01:15 Post subject: |
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The universe will end in ice.
The entropy of the universe is always increasing and I seem to remember that the term for the whole shebang is " Heat Death of the Universe".
But we will all be etherial beings made of energy and have no need for material bodies.
And yes Hell will have frozen over. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: 29-10-2003 01:23 Post subject: |
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| Fenris wrote: |
The universe will end in ice.
The entropy of the universe is always increasing and I seem to remember that the term for the whole shebang is " Heat Death of the Universe".
But we will all be etherial beings made of energy and have no need for material bodies.
And yes Hell will have frozen over. |
I don't think you've quite got the Heat Death / Energy Dissipation correlation. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 29-10-2003 01:31 Post subject: |
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OK there will be an even spread of energy across the universe and this will preclude the possibility of entities made up of energy.
As for the increasing entropy and heat death of the universe, it is a theory that I didn't come up with, but its in my university physics text. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 29-10-2003 02:05 Post subject: |
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A definitive answer
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae181.cfm
The 'heat-death' of the universe is when the universe has reached a state of maximum entropy. This happens when all available energy (such as from a hot source) has moved to places of less energy (such as a colder source). Once this has happened, no more work can be extracted from the universe. Since heat ceases to flow, no more work can be acquired from heat transfer. This same kind of equilibrium state will also happen with all other forms of energy (mechanical, electrical, etc.). Since no more work can be extracted from the universe at that point, it is effectively dead, especially for the purposes of humankind.
This concept is quite different from what is commonly referred to as 'cold death.' 'Cold death' is when the universe continues to expand forever. Because of this expansion, the universe continues to cool down. Eventually, the universe will be too cold to support any life, it will end in a whimper. The opposite of 'cold death,' as you can see, is NOT 'heat death,' but actually the 'big crunch.' The 'big crunch' occurs when the universe has enough matter density to contract back on itself, eventually shrinking to a point. This shrinking will cause the temperature to rise, resulting in a very hot end of the universe. |
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