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Posted: 12-11-2001 17:55 Post subject: Scientology

Opinions?

Thoughts?

Posted: 12-11-2001 18:29 Post subject:

A load of crap IMHO. The way it was started with LRH saying "I'm going to start a false religion and make a shed load of money too" was incredible Eek Eek

Check out the webby here

Posted: 12-11-2001 19:53 Post subject:

I once spent a rather entertaining afternoon at the Scientology 'celebrity center' in Hollywood. I was travelling and running out of money, and two very friendly young men invited me in for a cup of tea and a biscuit. In return I had to watch their video. It was all very happy stuff, but not for me so I thanked them and went on my merry way. I don't know what it's like when you're actually a member, but they did make it clear it was my choice if I wanted to find out more or not, and no one stopped me leaving. That said, the website does make it all sound a bit intense.

The biccie was nice, though. Mmm. Smile

Posted: 12-11-2001 20:24 Post subject:

Posted: 12-11-2001 21:26 Post subject: May the Farce be with you

Has anyone heard of Jedi leaping off the census form to become a religion in more than simply name after its recognition as such following the recent national census?

Posted: 12-11-2001 23:25 Post subject:

Posted: 13-11-2001 00:43 Post subject: Jedi Census

Sadly, although some ten thousand or more people /did/ put 'Jedi' as their religion, the idea that it was being added formally is an UL (..or NL? Net-Legend?). Check out snopes, they have an entry for it.

Posted: 13-11-2001 16:28 Post subject:

One of the reasons I was asking was because of something someone (who would likely wish to remain anonymous, so thus will here) told me once -- that the highest echelons of Scientology messed around with blood sacrifice and other 'black' rituals of that sort. Obviously without actually /being/ in those echelons it'd be impossible to tell, but I was just curious as to whether anyone had had any personal experience with Scientology other than 'here, buy this book' or a public seminar.

Posted: 13-11-2001 21:20 Post subject:

Hmmm.... I haven't read Bare Faced Messiah in a while but IRC that LRH worked with John Whiteside Parsons in performing "The Babylon Workin", some sort of 'satanic' rite which had been designed by good ol' Crowley.

Crowley thought they were bonkers and told them so.

This, of course, was before the invention of Dianetic. So who knows.

Niles

Posted: 30-11-2001 01:51 Post subject:

I don't really know anything about Scientology but I stumbled across this one day and I found it a little disturbing:

http://video.rotten.com/elron/index.html

Posted: 01-12-2001 22:25 Post subject:

Posted: 01-12-2001 23:26 Post subject:

Loads of 'stars' advocate.Agree, absoute *oo. 2nd rate author,2nd rate writing,3rd rate theology.Stopping now

Posted: 02-12-2001 07:31 Post subject:

Sorry about grossing you out, Niles...yeah, I shoulda said it was an autopsy thing.

If I haven't misread too much through the legal jargon, I think it was saying that this woman had dealings with the church of Scientology and she went for treatment for a month (after which she was admitted to their treatment facility, she died). The autopsy showed that the woman had been tortured and died from effects of severe dehydration. I don't know how long before the first picture of her was taken from the time of the autopsy but it did not look like her at all (she looked like another person/creature altogether at the autopsy). She had cigarette burns on her, lacerations, bruises, broken bones, etc. (you get the picture). The woman had not left the facility in the month before she died but during the course of the "treatment", the woman had lost something like 20 lbs. and all these signs of torture were on her body.

I think the judge threw the case out of court even before it made it to trial because there wasn't enough evidence (?).

(I might be wrong because I've misread the legal jargons)

Posted: 02-12-2001 12:55 Post subject:

Posted: 03-12-2001 05:28 Post subject:

the way I read it was that the judge threw the case out because presentation of the Medical Examiners evidence would have thrown doubt on the forensic evidence. As the only forensic evidence was the ME's own I am left to wonder why the judge decided this not the jury.
I sometimes think witch hunts are a good idea