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Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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For news on people who get stuff jammed in their head (knives, nails, etc.).
| Quote: | Surgeons Remove Chopstick From Man's Face
Mon Nov 17, 4:21 PM ET
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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Malaysian surgeons treating a man for an eye infection said they were surprised to find part of a chopstick embedded in his face — the result of an assault five years ago.
Doctors at a government hospital in the northern city of Ipoh said they found the section of a wooden chopstick lodged in tissue between his eyes during exploratory surgery to remove an unknown foreign object, the national new agency, Bernama, reported.
Dr. Gurdeep Singh Mann, the hospital's senior eye, nose and throat specialist, said the man, Ng Keng Choon, was lucky to be alive because the chopstick had been nudging against his brain.
Ng, 30, a carpark attendant, was beaten up five years ago by attackers who threw a shroud over his head. But he didn't seek medical attention until recently, when he developed an eye infection that left him unable to move his right eye, Gurdeep said.
"Someone stabbed him with the chopstick after covering his face with a gunny sack," Bernama quoted Gurdeep as telling reporters in Ipoh. "A portion of the chopstick broke and was stuck across from his right eye to the left eye near the nose, and touched the brain."
"If the stick had gone another half-centimeter (0.2 inch) deeper, he could be dead," he said.
Doctors detected a foreign object in Ng's face and he underwent surgery on Oct. 29, when they found the piece of chopstick and removed it in a one-hour operation which Gurdeep described as routine — except for the nature of the object.
"We have checked medical journals and found out that this could well be the first time in the world where a chopstick was found inside a patient's face," Gurdeep said.
Ng said that after the initial attack, he had no pain or other clue that there was a lasting injury, until the infection developed.
"I really didn't know there was a chopstick in my eye," Ng said. "I am feeling better now." |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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This is an impressive article worth quoting in full which says that items jammed into the head tend to resut in miraculous lucky escapes -my only quibble is the claim about the eyeball I have seen an awful lot of the large object in head TV shows and if the object enters from behind the eye then it tends to force it out of the socket and the eye escapes too.
| Quote: | And it didn't even hurt...
This man has a pneumatic drill through his neck. How on earth did he survive? Amazingly, it's not just a question of luck, says Ian Sample
Tuesday December 2, 2003
The Guardian
Spend time listening to surgeons and you might get the impression that there are some extremely lucky people among us. "It doesn't get any luckier in life than this," a German doctor commented last week after operating on Harry Moeller, a builder whose pneumatic drill flipped out of his hands, somersaulted into the air and skewered him clean through the neck. He cracked jokes on the way to hospital and apparently felt no pain.
Cases of such unbridled good fortune abound. "He was extremely lucky," a Grimsby-based surgeon remarked having completed an operation on an 11-year-old boy whose game with a snooker cue ended abruptly with the tip of the cue protruding from his stomach and the butt jutting out from his scrotum. Then there was Ron Hunt of California, who in September became known as the "Miracle Man" after he fell face first on to a powerdrill, forcing the 18in bit into his eye and out through his skull. Lady luck, it seems, is keeping herself busy.
Of course, in all of these cases, the surgeons simply mean that the person involved was lucky to survive. Despite the grotesque images released by hospitals, people get away with all sorts of stomach-churning injuries. In freak accidents, suspiciously often, the penetrative object, be it a drill bit, snooker cue or whatever, goes in one place and out another, severing neither vital arteries or nerves on the way, and leaving entire organs unscathed. Every time, it is a close shave though: "If it had been a few millimetres either way, it would have been fatal," or so the phrase goes. But why do some people get all the luck? The truth is that they don't.
"The stories always say it's been a near miss, but that's nonsense most of the time. It often doesn't matter where the thing goes," says Christopher Bulstrode, professor of orthopaedics at Oxford University. "The basic rule, which always surprises me, is that if it goes in slowly enough, it pushes important things out of the way." That is why major arteries and nerves always seem to be so perilously close to whatever it was the patient got rammed into them. They were simply nudged to one side."
The body's ability to shrug off what appear to be horrendous injuries is largely down to arteries and nerves being so elastic and slippery. Bulstrode recalls a case some years ago in which a group of builders were mucking around with a new digger on a gravel heap. The builder sitting at the digger's controls somehow managed to bat his colleague with the steel bucket at the end of the digger's arm. Moments later, the builder was dangling 10ft in the air, both thighs impaled on the bucket's steel teeth.
At first, attempts to get the man down failed, so eventually, the teeth on the bucket were sawn off and the builder was sent off to hospital with them still embedded in his legs. In the operating theatre, Bulstrode and his team removed the teeth, and then checked to see how much damage had been done. "To my amazement, there wasn't a single nerve or artery damaged. The teeth had gone right through both legs and just pushed everything out of the way," he says.
Such supposedly lucky outcomes are neither uncommon nor new. In the second world war, pot shots taken across the trenches led to countless "close shaves" as bullets just missed major blood vessels. Again, in many cases, they were just pushed out of the way. "By the time the bullet got to the other trench, it wasn't actually going that fast," says Bulstrode.
Organs have a tougher time avoiding injury, though some are better than others. Because it is reasonably mobile, the stomach often fairs well in accidents. The liver is much less mobile though and suffers because of it. In car crashes, it is common for the liver, one of the heaviest organs in the body, to tear itself from the blood vessels that hold it in place.
It is not just stretchy, slippery blood vessels and nerves that can evade damage by being nudged out of the way. The American surgeons who removed the drill bit from Hunt's head in September said that the damage he suffered was relatively minor only because the bit pushed his brain aside rather than going straight through it.
Sometimes, the brain isn't able to get out of the way, though, and when it takes a direct hit, luck does play a part. In 1997, newspapers carried horrific x-ray images showing a five-inch knife embedded to the hilt in a woman's head. Alison Kennedy received the shocking injury when she was attacked by a man on a train while visiting her sister in Surrey. Although the knife went deep inside her brain, it became lodged roughly along the line that divides the twin hemispheres of our brains, missing a lot of vital brain tissue. The amount of brain damage was relatively minor, considering the wound. The knife also stopped just short of the brain stem, which lies at the base of the brain. Damage the brain stem, and death is almost certain: it controls your breathing and tells your heart when to beat.
The brain is a hotch-potch of areas that range from being so sensitive that the slightest knock will cause serious damage to so apparently redundant that you would hardly notice if they weren't there. The tiniest amount of damage to certain outer regions of the cortex, a layer of brain roughly above your ears, for example, can cause permanent paralysis to a part of the body. But damage parts of the frontal lobes, and you might not notice. "The frontal lobes only do a bit of emotion. You can scoop out tonnes of the stuff and it doesn't seem to make much difference," says Bulstrode.
The worst injuries are often caused by things going into the body extremely fast. High-speed bullets cause far more damage than conventional bullets because they are going so fast that arteries and nerves are simply severed rather than nudged out of the way. They also cause shock waves that multiply the damage. "The shock wave literally tears the tissue to pieces," says Bulstrode.
Even slow-moving objects can cause horrific damage if they hit the wrong spot though. Arguably the worst at avoiding injury is the eye. "Although it's well buried in the skull, there's nowhere for it to go, so it can't move aside if something pushes on to it," says Bulstrode. Though Ron Hunt was considered lucky for not dying of his drill-induced injuries, he lost an eye where the drill bit entered his skull. The hands are also particularly bad at avoiding damage. Because all the tendons, nerves and blood vessels are so tightly packed in, cuts to the hand can easily damage these tissues.
Despite its weaker spots, the body seems well equipped to take the kinds of injuries we are likely to sustain. "The human body has to be, and is, extremely resilient to injury," says Bulstrode. "It's absolutely staggering what it can put up with." |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/health/story/0,3605,1097643,00.html
I also enjoyed how blaise the surgeon is 
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| Quote: | 'Record' op saves knife victim
By Venkitesh Ramakrishnan
BBC correspondent in Thiruvananthapuram
Surgeons in India have performed an extraordinary feat by safely treating a woman who arrived at hospital with a 15cm blade embedded in her face.
The woman had allegedly been stabbed in the face by her husband - said to be an alcoholic.
Doctors in the town of Thiruvananthapuram in the south Indian state of Kerala spent an hour discussing how to remove the blade, before embarking on a five hour life-saving operation.
They believe the procedure has broken the record for removing outsized objects lodged in a human face.
Their report on the operation has been forwarded to several international medical journals.
The woman is thought to have received the injury when her husband struck her face with a 25cm knife.
An initial examination revealed that the 15cm blade had pierced the face below the right nostril and reached the base of the right ear.
The sharp edge of the knife was almost touching the root of her jugular vein.
Multi-disciplinary approach
Dr RC Sreekumar, the assistant professor of surgery who led the operation, told the BBC it was an extremely perilous procedure.
"If we had removed the knife in a hurry, the jugular vein would most certainly have been cut, resulting in instant death."
Dr Sreekumar and a team of specialists - including a general surgeon, an ear, nose and throat specialist and a dental surgeon - spent an hour consulting each other on the best way to proceed.
They decided to remove the knife in two parts - first the handle, then the blade.
The removal of the blade sparked internal bleeding - but the doctors staunched the flow by tying up a carotid artery.
Dr Sreekumar says the medical team's multi-disciplinary approach and detailed preparation helped save the woman's life, without seriously disfiguring her face.
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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| Posted: 06-03-2004 13:51 Post subject: |
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Very strange:
| Quote: | Needles stuck in brain for 29 yrs
From correspondents in Beijing
March 5, 2004
DOCTORS in China have successfully removed three sewing needles embedded in a man's brain for nearly 29 years, state media reported.
The man, surnamed Guo, and his parents had no idea how the needles got into his head, but doctors who performed the unusual operation said someone likely stuck them through a membranous space in his skull when he was a baby.
"It's not possible for a needle to penetrate the skull otherwise, because the skull is extremely hard," Xinhua news agency quoted Zhang Zhiqiang, one of the neurosurgeons at the 999 Hospital for Brain Diseases in southern Guangdong province, as saying.
Guo only found out about the needles only after an X-ray in 1994 for a brain injury. Since then, he has travelled to several cities trying to find doctors who could help him remove them, but no-one dared carry out the surgery.
"They simply told him it was too risky, and he should just ignore them if they were not making him too uncomfortable," Zhang said.
But Guo was determined to see the back of them.
"I was about to enter college that year and was a top student, but I worried so much about the needles that my grades dropped rapidly, and I ended up attending a junior college, instead of one of the top universities I'd always dreamed of," he said.
Guo went to the 999 Hospital in February and doctors agreed to operate.
During the two-and-a-half-hour procedure Wednesday, they "fished" the needles out of Guo's brain using a new "navigation system," which includes a microscope and a magnet.
"Two of the needles were four centimetres long and the third was three centimetres," said Zhang.
One needle was stuck in a major blood vessel, which made the operation extremely difficult, Zhang said.
"It could have caused a hemorrhage and even endangered the patient's life, so we broke the needle in half before taking it out," he said.
The patient was lucky to escape a potential hemorrhage and infection inside his brain, as well as serious nervous system problems such as epilepsy, the doctors said. He has remained in normal condition since the operation. |
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| Spookyangel Anonymous lurker Age: 41 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 07-03-2004 02:27 Post subject: Needles stuck in brain for 29 years |
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| Quote: | DOCTORS in China have successfully removed three sewing needles embedded in a man's brain for nearly 29 years, state media reported.
The man, surnamed Guo, and his parents had no idea how the needles got into his head, but doctors who performed the unusual operation said someone likely stuck them through a membranous space in his skull when he was a baby.
"It's not possible for a needle to penetrate the skull otherwise, because the skull is extremely hard," Xinhua news agency quoted Zhang Zhiqiang, one of the neurosurgeons at the 999 Hospital for Brain Diseases in southern Guangdong province, as saying.
Guo only found out about the needles only after an X-ray in 1994 for a brain injury. Since then, he has travelled to several cities trying to find doctors who could help him remove them, but no-one dared carry out the surgery.
"They simply told him it was too risky, and he should just ignore them if they were not making him too uncomfortable," Zhang said.
But Guo was determined to see the back of them.
"I was about to enter college that year and was a top student, but I worried so much about the needles that my grades dropped rapidly, and I ended up attending a junior college, instead of one of the top universities I'd always dreamed of," he said.
Guo went to the 999 Hospital in February and doctors agreed to operate.
During the two-and-a-half-hour procedure Wednesday, they "fished" the needles out of Guo's brain using a new "navigation system," which includes a microscope and a magnet.
"Two of the needles were four centimetres long and the third was three centimetres," said Zhang.
One needle was stuck in a major blood vessel, which made the operation extremely difficult, Zhang said.
"It could have caused a hemorrhage and even endangered the patient's life, so we broke the needle in half before taking it out," he said.
The patient was lucky to escape a potential hemorrhage and infection inside his brain, as well as serious nervous system problems such as epilepsy, the doctors said. He has remained in normal condition since the operation. |
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8878701%255E13762,00.html |
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| oll_lewis mi mou tous kiklous taratte
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| [coment that had to be comming]DIY accupuncture is not a good idea[/coment that had to be comming] |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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| Spookyangel Anonymous lurker Age: 41 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 07-03-2004 16:17 Post subject: |
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| Ok, I give up. It's too hard skimming through all these topics to find out if a story has already been posted or not. I tried a search and it didn't throw anything up on either of these stories I've posted. Ho hum. |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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| Posted: 07-03-2004 16:46 Post subject: |
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Its not time to give up 
I suspect the reported problems with the site search engine aren't helping at the moment but I threw one of the distinctive terms in there, "Zhang Zhiqiang", and it got the other thread. Hopefully when it is running better (and accepting three letter words, etc.) things should run more smoothly.
Anyway I've requested that the thread are merged so there is nothing lost
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| Spookyangel Anonymous lurker Age: 41 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 07-03-2004 18:37 Post subject: |
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Doesn't matter. I'll just continue to post these things at my own MB instead.
If any mods want me to delete both my threads, I will. |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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Excellent use of the term 'dill' in a newspaper headline:
| Quote: | DIY dill shoots nail into brain
By Sue Hewitt
March 7, 2004
BRAD Shorten admits he is a fool who is lucky to be alive.
He was skylarking with mates over a few beers and took what he thought was an empty nail gun and pointed it at his head.
The Victorian father of three fired a 3.2cm nail through his skull into his brain, just behind his temple.
A centimetre deeper and Mr Shorten, 33, could have been dead or paralysed.
The Sunbury bricklayer's labourer thought the firing mechanism had glanced his skin, leaving a small red dot, not realising the nail had been counter-sunk into his skull.
Mr Shorten said he had used the nail gun to install wall panelling in his home, but had turned off the compressor and removed the nail cartridge.
"My mates and I were talking about construction site accidents and taking your eye out with a nail gun, and I foolishly put the gun to my head and pulled the trigger," he said.
Although the compressor was disconnected, there was still pressure in the hose and it shot the nail into his skull.
"The nail was recessed into the skull, just like it is recessed into the timber," he said.
Mr Shorten had minimal pain, but started to feel light headed. His son, Nathan, 13, insisted on calling an ambulance.
"At hospital the pain got worse, and I was getting frustrated so I asked (nurses) for a pair of pliers to pull it out myself," he said.
That would have been the worst thing to do, according to Dr Kevin Siu, a Royal Melbourne Hospital neurosurgeon.
Dr Siu said there was a risk that removing the nail would cause a blood vessel to hemorrhage, possibly causing death.
The surgeon said had the nail been a centimetre deeper or had it been angled backwards, Mr Shorten risked a stroke, permanent brain damage or paralysis.
In a four-hour operation, a specialist team took a part of his skull off and removed the nail.
Mr Shorten said he was recovering from surgery and was expected to make a full recovery.
"I did a very stupid thing," he said.
The Victorian Injury Surveillance and Applied Research unit has found a growing trend of people, mainly men, injuring themselves doing stunts or tricks. In the six years to December 2002, 82 people suffered such injuries.
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| WhistlingJack Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Total posts: 4298 Location: The Sewers of The Strand Age: 9 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 05-05-2004 16:09 Post subject: Builder Survives 6 Nails In Skull |
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| Quote: | Builder survives nailgun accident
A construction worker has miraculously survived after six nails were embedded in his skull.
Isidro Mejia, 39, was rushed to hospital after his nailgun accidentally went off, shooting nails into his head.
Newspaper reports say doctors at Providence Holy Cross Hospital in Los Angeles had feared for his life when he arrived.
But Mr Mejia is now out of intensive care and doctors expect him to make a full recovery.
Surgeons removed the six nails over the course of five days.
"Four of the nails were embedded in his skull," said hospital spokesman Brian Green.
"Another was in his spinal column. Surgeons worked round the clock to take the nails out one by one.
"It was a very delicate process and was not completed for five days.
"The neurosurgeon who operated on Isidro could not believe he was still alive.
"With injuries like that, he should have been dead. He has been taken out of intensive care and although still groggy and on medication is expected to make a full recovery.
"His wife and family are obviously delighted that he survived and are looking forward to getting home," he said.
According to the reports, police have launched an investigation. However, they believe it was a bizarre accident.
"His colleagues said Isidro was using a nailgun that has both manual and fully automatic settings," said deputy sheriff Dan McPherson.
"It appears he slipped and fired into his skull."
Story from BBC NEWS:
Published: 2004/05/05 12:45:06 GMT
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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| Quote: | Playtime proves dangerous for Madison boy
10:22 PM 5/27/04
Lisa Schuetz Wisconsin State Journal
Attention adults: Stern warnings to children playing with sticks must extend beyond the usual "You could poke an eye out with that!"
Madison parents Kelly Starr-King and Andy King would add, "you could poke a hole in your skull." Their son Gary's recent ordeal after a seemingly innocuous wounding was no joke.
Since a May 3 incident, the 11-year-old has undergone a CT scan, two MRIs, a four-day hospital stay, a three-week course of intravenous antibiotics and anti-seizure medication and numerous doctor visits.
Gary's injury began with typical child's play.
As Gary tells it, he and friend Harrison Silvers were playing with 4-foot-long orange fiberglass rods - the flexible rods have myriad uses including holding flags to mark fire hydrants during winter. <
The boys initially used the rods as weapons in a mock sword fight. Then the boys moved on to the javelin throw.
Harrison's last effort took an unexpected turn. Gary tried to duck, but the blunt end of the rod hit the hairline above his right eye.
And there it stuck.
Gary reached up and pulled out the rod, buried about a quarter of an inch deep in his head. Harrison urged his friend to hurry and wash the wound, which was steadily dripping blood.
Harrison's mother called Starr-King, co-owner of Drake and Co., at work. At first, the mothers knew only that a stick to the head caused the wound. The wound was cleansed and glued closed at an urgent care clinic.
But when the parents heard the whole story from a heartbroken Harrison and saw what he called "the incriminating" rod, they realized the injury was more serious.
"When you have a foreign body enter the skull, an abscess can form," said UW Hospital's pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Bermans Iskandar. "You can trap articles from the scalp like skin or hair that's dirty. And if a (blood) vessel is injured, you may not be aware until a blood clot forms and it becomes life-threatening."
A visit to Gary's pediatrician, Dr. Gail Allen, the next day included an X-ray. She sent Gary to UW Hospital for a CT scan to get a better look at the damage.
The CT scan verified it - the rod had punctured both layers of the skull and the protective lining around the brain and bruised the brain.
The neurosurgeon on call recommended surgery to clean the wound, check for skull fragments and examine the bruising - or they could check the boy into the hospital for heavy doses of antibiotics and hope for the best.
"I looked over and Gary waved to me, wanting me to come over. When I bent down to him he put his arms around me and whispered, 'Am I going to die?' " Starr-King said. "He was pretty upset."
That night he was admitted to the hospital while his parents considered the options. The next day, Iskandar took his first look at Gary. He leaned toward hospitalization because the boy still seemed to be doing fine.
"I saw him two days after the injury," Iskandar said. "The first few hours can determine if he is going to have an infection. What you do after that is not going to be that helpful. But if he ended up with an abscess in two weeks, we would have felt badly that we had not operated."
Gary was discharged several days later. Starr-King gave her son four shots, three times a day for the next two weeks. He had an MRI on May 13 and another Thursday that "shows the area of injury to have decreased in size significantly," Iskandar said, happy with the boy's results.
It'll be three months before Gary is completely in the clear. He'll continue to take the anti-seizure drug through August when he'll have his final MRI.
Gary said he's through with plastic rods forever. He'll stick to Nerf toys.
And he doesn't blame his friend, not one bit. "It could easily have been the other way around," Gary admitted.
His parents look forward to putting the ordeal behind them - but not too far behind.
"Since he's been back to school, he's been acting like a normal 11-year-old kid. He knows he was lucky," said Andy King, waving one of the rods. "And if he doesn't, we'll remind him." |
This is a tricky one as the actual page:
http://www.madison.com/wisconsinstatejournal_local/75208.php
but the Google cache still has it:
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| Posted: 24-06-2004 12:44 Post subject: 'Harpoon attack' jury deliberates |
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A jury which cleared a man of deliberately firing a scuba harpoon at a teenager is considering its verdicts on two further charges.
Reading Crown Court acquitted Nathan Kirk, 25, of causing grievous bodily harm with intent after a brawl in Thatcham, Berks, in 2003.
The jury is now considering charges of causing grievous bodily harm and possession of an offensive weapon.
Mr Kirk, of Upper Inkpen, Hungerford, denied all charges.
During the trial at Reading Crown Court, the jury heard how Mr Kirk was stabbed close to his heart in a fight with the 15-year-old and two older men outside his girlfriend's flat.
He subsequently went into the property and returned with a scuba gun.
During the brawl, it was fired and became lodged in the 15-year-old's face.
The youth's injury was so serious that he lost an eye and paramedics had to use bolt-cutters to remove the three-pronged harpoon from his face.
Defence lawyers said the gun was fired by accident after he had acted in self-defence, fearing further life-threatening attacks.
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| I don't know about anybody else but what is it about these stories that absolutley fasinates people, i have only just found this thread and have been reading through the stories with a mixture of horror and complete fasination. I just like to ask everyone, when reading these stories have you like me found yourself holding the part of your body thats being talked about or cringing and even reading the story through your fingers. I know that may sound weird as i am not squimish at all but i don't even know i'm doing it until i have finished the article and find my body has been twisted as if avoiding an errent snooker cue, nail, speargun, JCB spike or whatever it is that people find sticking out of there bodies. |
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