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Anome_ Faceless Man
Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2002 Total posts: 5377 Location: Left, and to the back. Age: 45 Gender: Male |
 Posted: 16-10-2010 22:26 Post subject: |
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| We're already waiting for the first hatchet job on her. My money's on Today Tonight. |
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| Zilch5 Vogon Poet
Great Old One Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Total posts: 1527 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Gender: Male |
| Posted: 17-10-2010 05:19 Post subject: |
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I can't believe this is happening and it is making me feel ill.
This 2010 people, and as a lapsed Catholic who had this rubbish forced down his throat as a kid, I refuse to watch this.
Channel 7 is going bonkers with this - good, as I never watch it. |
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| Anome_ Faceless Man
Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2002 Total posts: 5377 Location: Left, and to the back. Age: 45 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 19-10-2010 14:37 Post subject: |
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| I can understand the ABC doing a Compass special, since they already have a religious program, but the commercial networks don't show any religious programming beyond televangelists at 4am, and it seems a bit odd for them to suddenly show an interest. |
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| poozler Great Old One Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Total posts: 170 Location: melbourne australia Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 21-10-2010 06:40 Post subject: |
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Aw, Zilch. Take heart! You know Australia is a very confused country when it comes to the cult of celebrity.
We hate Queen Elizabeth as a symbol of colonial oppression, but love "our" Princess Mary for ''marrying up'' and getting the hell out of Tasmania; we hate Americans because they are stupid, talentless hicks, but worship Hollywood stars and get all excited when "our" Rusty/Nicole/whomever wins an Academy Award or gets a part in an American picture, because it's proof that we are just as good as the Americans we hate. It stands to reason that we mock formal religion, while condemning the vile actions of the church while getting all het up about miracles performed by "our" St Mary.
One day we will figure it out.
It's probably wise not to watch ANY commercial television here until all the nonsense is truly past. |
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| Anome_ Faceless Man
Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2002 Total posts: 5377 Location: Left, and to the back. Age: 45 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 21-10-2010 07:45 Post subject: |
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I find that a good general rule. These days I hardly watch commercial television at all. And the thought of the commercial networks' doing commentary on the beatification of St Mary McKillop just boggles the mind.
Will Nine have Darryl Eastlake locked in a soundproof booth to do commentary?
Come to think of it, will the ABC get Chris Taylor on their coverage? (He might not be welcome at the Vatican after the "incident".) |
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| escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17896 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 4 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 21-10-2010 08:00 Post subject: |
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BBC R4'S 'Sunday' programme'
| Quote: | | This weekend thousands of Australians are set to gather in Rome for the Canonisation of their first saint, Mary McKillop. Born in 1842, Mary became a Catholic Nun and Teacher and was at one point excommunicated. Willam Crawley talks to Father Brian Lucas from the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference about her life. |
I heard this. McKillop's brief excommunication was put down by Lucas to jealousies relating to local clergy and the attitudes of Irish bishops, who were not used to women running missions. No mention of child abuse. |
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| Anome_ Faceless Man
Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2002 Total posts: 5377 Location: Left, and to the back. Age: 45 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 21-10-2010 08:15 Post subject: |
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| From what I've heard, the paragraph quoted by Dougal is correct. The order reported the abuse, Mary herself isn't directly linked to the report, and her excommunication was unrelated. |
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| DougalLongfoot Great Old One Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Total posts: 451 Location: New England, NSW, Australia Age: 39 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 21-10-2010 08:33 Post subject: |
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| Anome_ wrote: |
Will Nine have Darryl Eastlake locked in a soundproof booth to do commentary?
Come to think of it, will the ABC get Chris Taylor on their coverage? (He might not be welcome at the Vatican after the "incident".) |
Big Dazza has alzheimer's and is close to death, so no commentary from him. ABC had Scott Bevan, a member of the Brown Joeys, an academic from ACU and ABC's religion and ethics editor, Scott Stephens, so no sign of the Chaser. |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17933 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
| Posted: 21-10-2010 15:23 Post subject: |
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| Anome_ wrote: | | From what I've heard, the paragraph quoted by Dougal is correct. The order reported the abuse, Mary herself isn't directly linked to the report, and her excommunication was unrelated. |
Reports differ on that. |
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 21-10-2010 20:03 Post subject: |
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I have a hunch Escargot is right.
The whole story sounds terribly made up to me |
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| Anome_ Faceless Man
Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2002 Total posts: 5377 Location: Left, and to the back. Age: 45 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 22-10-2010 05:47 Post subject: |
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| ramonmercado wrote: | | Anome_ wrote: | | From what I've heard, the paragraph quoted by Dougal is correct. The order reported the abuse, Mary herself isn't directly linked to the report, and her excommunication was unrelated. |
Reports differ on that. |
True. The reports that actually have documentary evidence to back them up go with what Dougal and I have said, and reports from people trying to push an agenda don't. |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17933 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
| Posted: 22-10-2010 13:04 Post subject: |
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| Anome_ wrote: | | ramonmercado wrote: | | Anome_ wrote: | | From what I've heard, the paragraph quoted by Dougal is correct. The order reported the abuse, Mary herself isn't directly linked to the report, and her excommunication was unrelated. |
Reports differ on that. |
True. The reports that actually have documentary evidence to back them up go with what Dougal and I have said, and reports from people trying to push an agenda don't. |
Now the RCC would never push an agenda would they? See my posting on the Vatican Bank which (Iforetell) will appear shortly. |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17933 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
| Posted: 22-10-2010 13:11 Post subject: |
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Heres another report on the Nun.
| Quote: | Pope canonises nun who exposed paedophile priest
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/1018/1224281341063.html
PADDY AGNEW in Rome
Mon, Oct 18, 2010
POPE BENEDICT XVI issued a powerful signal yesterday when he canonised an Australian nun whose order exposed a paedophile Irish priest back in 1871.
Mother Mary of the Cross MacKillop, the daughter of Scottish immigrants, was yesterday canonised in St Peter’s Square in Rome, thus making her the Catholic Church’s first Australian saint. A woman who spent her life in the service of the sick, the poor and the underprivileged, Mother Mary in 1867 founded the Sisters of St Joseph of the Sacred Heart. Three years later, her order found itself in the eye of a bitter polemic with the Australian church hierarchy when the Josephites exposed paedophile Irish priest Fr Patrick Keating.
When the Josephite order informed the vicar general of Fr Keating’s activities, the Irish priest was sent back to Ireland where he continued to serve as a clergyman. It is believed, however, that a colleague of Fr Keating, Galway man Fr Charles Horan, angered by the removal of Fr Keating, attempted to seek vengeance on the Josephites.
Appointed acting vicar general in 1870, Fr Horan persuaded the ailing Bishop of Adelaide, Laurence Shiel, to excommunicate Mother Mary and 47 other Josephite nuns for alleged “insubordination”. Five months later, on his deathbed, Bishop Shiel revoked that excommunication, thus allowing Mother Mary to return to her work with the poor, the needy and with the Aborigine people.
When Pope John Paul II beatified Mother Mary in 1995, the first step towards being made a saint, he said that she embodied all that is best in Australia and the Australian people. Pope Benedict took up the same theme yesterday, saying: “For many years, countless young people throughout Australia have been blessed with teachers who were inspired by the courageous and saintly example of zeal, perseverance and prayer of Mother Mary MacKillop.”
Among those who attended yesterday’s Vatican canonisation ceremony was 30-year-old Irishman David Keohane, whose family believe that Mother Mary intervened to save him after he had been severely injured in an assault in Coogee, Australia, in August 2008. Keohane, at the time living and working in Sydney, was found unconscious in a pool of blood on a footpath, having apparently been severely beaten.
Among those to visit Keohane as he lay in a coma in hospital in Australia were Josephite nuns, who also took Keohane family members to the tomb of Mother Mary to pray. Keohane awoke from his coma on St Patrick’s Day last year in a miracle recovery which his family attribute to Mother Mary’s intervention.
Thousands of Australians also celebrated Mother Mary’s canonisation yesterday, watching TV coverage of the Vatican ceremony both at home and on large outdoor screens in Sydney, in Melbourne and in Penola, where she established her first school. Also present in Rome yesterday was Australia’s foreign minister, Kevin Rudd. |
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 22-10-2010 16:59 Post subject: |
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| Wouldnt someone who killed rabbits, freed convicts and befriended aborigines be more appropriate? |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17933 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
| Posted: 22-10-2010 17:24 Post subject: |
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| Kondoru wrote: | | Wouldnt someone who killed rabbits, freed convicts and befriended aborigines be more appropriate? |
Ok by me but rabbit fanciers might object.
How about Ned Kelly? |
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