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PostPosted: 21-02-2011 01:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer a few of your queries:

The only mirror in that section of the department is further to the left, not very close to where the "ghost head" is. It is square, though, and a permanent fixture, nothing that can be moved around, and it is not magnifying. It is across from where these people are. However, where the head appears, there is nothing for anything to reflect off of----just some lipstick and makeup products.

If it was some sort of reflection, where is her neck??

There were no cut outs or banner/advertisement or latex masks, either.

Underneath the head, the yellowy-green thing you see are actually products from that particular makeup line. They are sitting in an acrylic holder-type thing on a shelf there.

I will take a new pic of that same spot and re-post it here so you can see what it looks like without people/ghosts.

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PostPosted: 21-02-2011 08:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redhead666 wrote:
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I will take a new pic of that same spot and re-post it here so you can see what it looks like without people/ghosts.

wince

Great Stuff! Try and recreate it as close as possible, please. Smile
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PostPosted: 21-02-2011 13:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it was some sort of reflection, where is her neck??


Off the bottom of whatevers doing the reflecting, along with the far left of her face?

It's still a good photo though, well spooky.
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PostPosted: 21-02-2011 14:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sure is an odd image.

@redhead666: Does the image at all resemble any of the other people who were at the location that day? I ask because I've seen something similar caught with a digital camera last year. When shooting indoors cameras struggle with exposure, and when the indoor area is well lit (like this) the camera doesn't fire the flash, it chooses to use a longer shutter time instead. This might account for the decapitated head, but I'm not convinced.
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PostPosted: 21-02-2011 17:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

linesmachine wrote:
@redhead666: Does the image at all resemble any of the other people who were at the location that day? I ask because I've seen something similar caught with a digital camera last year. When shooting indoors cameras struggle with exposure, and when the indoor area is well lit (like this) the camera doesn't fire the flash, it chooses to use a longer shutter time instead. This might account for the decapitated head, but I'm not convinced.


It's quite a well-known phenomenon. See http://www.assap.org/newsite/htmlfiles/Photographs%20of%20ghosts.html for instance. I don't suppose there is any EXIF information available for this photo? It would be interesting to see the shutter speed.
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PostPosted: 21-02-2011 17:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this, it's building up to be a classic thread!

Redhead666 can you give us any more info on the "weird" stuff that's happened in that department?
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PostPosted: 21-02-2011 21:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

linesmachine wrote:
It sure is an odd image.

@redhead666: Does the image at all resemble any of the other people who were at the location that day? I ask because I've seen something similar caught with a digital camera last year. When shooting indoors cameras struggle with exposure, and when the indoor area is well lit (like this) the camera doesn't fire the flash, it chooses to use a longer shutter time instead. This might account for the decapitated head, but I'm not convinced.


I had something a bit similar (phantom legs, not head) show up on one of my pictures when I wasn't using a flash. That one was taken outdoors, but in a big patch of shade on a sunny day and I think the camera got all confused about shutter speed.

(Here's the photo in question if anyone's curious. Look at the extra pair of legs beneath the horse's head/neck. Rest of the picture's absolutely fine.)
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 08:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

norton51 wrote:
linesmachine wrote:
@redhead666: Does the image at all resemble any of the other people who were at the location that day? I ask because I've seen something similar caught with a digital camera last year. When shooting indoors cameras struggle with exposure, and when the indoor area is well lit (like this) the camera doesn't fire the flash, it chooses to use a longer shutter time instead. This might account for the decapitated head, but I'm not convinced.


It's quite a well-known phenomenon. See http://www.assap.org/newsite/htmlfiles/Photographs%20of%20ghosts.html for instance. I don't suppose there is any EXIF information available for this photo? It would be interesting to see the shutter speed.


Yes, that's exactly what I was referring too. I still hold though that it's a long shot (pun intended) of an explanation. The head is just too isolated, and a longer shutter time would not explain the fact that half the head is hidden behind the girl on the left.
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 08:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a look in Photoshop and the "ghost" face does have alot of what appears to be smudging / bluring applied to it. It has an out of place appearance which to me suggests two things...

It's either been photoshopped or it is just someone walking past hence the motion blur and the look towards the camera, as if they were attracted to the flash.

Just my thoughts.
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 08:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we take a photo we're not looking at the background, especially if it's a rush job like a snap of a couple of women who might object to being photographed Wink

So it's always possible for someone to wander into shot unnoticed. I think that may have happened here. The 'extra' person might even be trying to bob back out of the way when they saw the camera, causing the disembodied effect.

I'm no camera expert but I've messed up enough photos to know what can go wrong. Laughing

Werecow's horsy photo is a stunning example of 'WTF?!' photography! Shocked
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 11:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

linesmachine wrote:
Yes, that's exactly what I was referring too. I still hold though that it's a long shot (pun intended) of an explanation. The head is just too isolated, and a longer shutter time would not explain the fact that half the head is hidden behind the girl on the left.


I agree it's a long shot as, to work, the 'phantom head' would have to be captured first. So the photographer would open the shutter pointing at the 'phantom head' and then quicklly move to point at the intended subject. There would also need to be a bland background in the final frame where the head goes. Possible if unlikely. Still be interesting to know if it was a slow shutter speed. And a new picture of the same scene, without people, would be very useful.

This sort of slow shutter speed combined with camera movement can certainly explain a lot of 'classic' ghost photos, though.
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 12:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not artifact, and it's not a long shutter speed. Two options, it's either manipulated, or a mirror/display pic. The pixels are uniform to the entire photograph, but there's some fogging, or blurring around the edges, (Not motion blur).
Werecow's horse pic, to me, shows three people and a jockey with a horse. It doesn't look indicative of phantom legs due to a long exposure, as there's no apparant motion blur or light streaking. Also, the legs appear to be johdpurs. White ones, with a dark blue top. (Rationality would dictate that a person wearing these garments would be somewhere abouts, and probably just out of the saddle, and partially hidden by said equine.)

I do genuinely look forward to seeing the other pics from the shop, and the recreation. Smile
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 12:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

escargot1 wrote:


Werecow's horsy photo is a stunning example of 'WTF?!' photography! Shocked


Am I missing something? I have to agree with coaly. There's nothing much weird about this shot...or are we saying that Werecow took the photo and there were only 3 people at the location when the shutter was pressed?
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 20:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no idea so many people would comment on my pic!

Just to clarify why I linked to it in the first place--I have an older digital camera, and when I try fiddling with shutter speed/flash/etc, sometimes I get really weird results (getting a better camera is high up on my list). Bizarre, fuzzy blurs mostly, which is what the original picture reminded me of. I've never had any as clear as the OP's picture, but it reminded me of a few I'd had (and mostly deleted, but the one I linked to I didn't notice the blur at first and had uploaded it before I looked at it and said 'WTF? WTF?' repeatedly. And loudly. Especially since I'd proudly shown it off already).

For months I'd been assuming the blur was a strange artifact of the fellow at the back moving away quickly, especially as I took several pictures in sequence, and the next shows only the groom and trainer in frame. However, looking at it again (and looking at it full size, which I hadn't recently), I think those of you who think it's the jockey are probably right; he's wearing similar colours to the man behind, so the overlap/blur created this effect that confused my (and appparently not just my!) eye. However, as said, I have a whole sequence of pictures and the jockey's not in any of them, just the other three, hence why this perfectly reasonable explanation never occurred to me. He must have scampered out of frame pretty right quick, the little bugger. So it's not as relevant as I thought, but I'm glad that mystery has been cleared up at least. Smile
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PostPosted: 22-02-2011 22:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_macabre wrote:
I love this, it's building up to be a classic thread!

Redhead666 can you give us any more info on the "weird" stuff that's happened in that department?


Not very long ago, 2 employees saw a bottle of face lotion come off of a shelf and smash to the floor. The bottle was not near the edge of the shelf, there was nothing jarring or earthquake-ish happening, and no human being was near it. Both girls just happened to be looking in that direction and saw it happen. They were both astounded and have no explanation for it.

Now that I think about it, this happened about 6-8 feet away from the area in the pic where the mystery face is......interesting!

Sometimes on Saturday mornings I work at 6 a.m. The cosmetic department is not open then (but the rest of the store is)and we have large doors that come down from the ceiling area to block it off from the rest of the store. They are not solid doors--more like a gate-type thing, so you can still clearly hear everything and partially see some of the dept. that would be on the other side of the locked gate/door, which normally would not be very much at all, since no one would be in there at that time.

Last Saturday was one of these early days for me and while working near the locked doors/gate (on the store side, not in the cosmetic department), I could hear noises in there. Like 'movements', I guess you would call it, but I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. It scared the heck out of a co-worker, though. Laughing

This is not to say it was anything ghostly, since I really have no proof, other than noises where there shouldn't be any.

I will take a pic of the area in the ghost photo tomorrow when I work and should have it posted here Wednesday or Thursday night.
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