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PostPosted: 08-09-2002 01:34    Post subject: Mystery Carp Appear at Trafford Centre Reply with quote

Always nice to find a tale which has classic Fortean credentials. To have one
occur at a soulless modern precinct warms the heart.

Tonight's Manchester Evening news contains a nice piece of classical
Forteana - the fish which suddenly appear to populate pools:

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/stories/Detail_LinkStory=18899.html

Trafford Centre's aquatic riddle
A SHOAL of 30 koi carp worth tens of thousands of pounds has mysteriously turned up in one of the ponds at the Trafford Centre.

Landscape gardener Danny Wilson couldn't believe his eyes when he spotted the colourful and valuable collectors' items in a man-made pond next to the The Orangery, a bar outside the Orient at the £900m shopping city.

At first he thought it was simply a plastic bag shimmering in the pond beside the stone fish statues which spout water.

But a closer inspection revealed his fishy find. They boast distinctive red markings and some are as heavy as 2lbs and as long as 18 inches.

The discovery has baffled staff at the centre.

One theory being considered by centre staff is that a contractor placed a couple of koi carp in the pond during the early days of the building's construction to see if they would breed.
Valuable
It looks like they did. Now the estimated 30 fish, which have been valued at around £1,000 each, are being cared for like VIPs, with water lilies added to oxygenate the water.

They have become something of an attraction among shoppers who want to see the latest centre attraction.

But the high value of the carp means security staff have been placed on alert.

Danny, 24, said: "I have worked here eight months and never knew there were fish in there. No one knows how they got in the pond but staff at the pub believe they have been there for some time and have bred and multiplied.

"I was really surprised to find that the fish included koi carp. "We are all growing fond of them."

Steve Bunce, director of operations at The Trafford Centre, said: "We were absolutely stunned to find them.

"We're not sure how they arrived but what's important now is that we look after them the best way possible.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2002 03:08    Post subject: Re: Mystery Carp Appear at Trafford Centre Reply with quote

James Whitehead wrote:

The discovery has baffled staff at the centre.


Anytime somebody's baffled...it's Fortean. Bravo.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2002 06:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughter did a stint as one of 'Philippa's Psychics' there last year!

Nice place, but hellishly expensive.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2002 10:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

escargot wrote:

My daughter did a stint as one of 'Philippa's Psychics' there last year!

Nice place, but hellishly expensive.


And carp have shitty credit.
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PostPosted: 15-11-2003 02:46    Post subject: O.o.P.A.- hong kongs croc still on the loose Reply with quote

At the time I'm writing this a crocodile has been on the lose in Hong kong for nearly 2 weeks... the authoritys know exactly whare it is but the wily beast has manage to evade many capture attempts, including one under taken by a 'real life ' crocodile dundee. roll eyes (sarcastic)

No zoos in the area have reported a missing crocodile.

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Croc on the loose in Hong Kong

By Chris Hogg
BBC correspondent in Hong Kong

Hong Kong officials are struggling to capture what is believed to be the first crocodile ever found in the territory's waters.
The alarm was first raised by villagers in the New Territories on Sunday.

Police and conservation officers were mobilised, but have so far failed to capture the beast.

Basking in the sunshine on the banks of the Shan Pui river the crocodile, some 1.2 metres long, appears unbothered by the excitement it had created.

No one knows where it came from but the authorities suspect it was a pet that escaped or was dumped into the river after it grew too big.

As reporters watched from the safety of the opposite bank, it made one or two lazy attempts to find some dinner in the river before returning to the mudflats to watch them.

Chicken trap

This croc was no pushover though.

When police and conservation officers approached, planning to shoot it with a tranquilliser gun and net it, the beast slid quietly into the water and disappeared.

Nothing has been seen of it since.

Lookouts have been posted on the river bank while a large cage baited with half a chicken has been placed in the water.

Officials say there is nothing they can do now but watch and wait.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/3239161.stm

Published: 2003/11/04 06:33:27 GMT

© BBC MMIII


and the latest:
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Hong Kong crocodile hunt begins
An Australian hunter has begun combing marsh land in Hong Kong for a crocodile which has eluded the authorities since it was first spotted almost two weeks ago.
John Lever, who works on a Queensland crocodile farm, is planning to lay bait for the beast and then wait in a boat, hoping the crocodile will be hungry enough to visit.

He has said he can then try and grab the animal.


Getting close enough to catch him is the hard part. It requires a lot of stealth
John Lever
Crocodile hunter
"He's asked for chicken heads, a bamboo pole and a boat," a government spokeswoman said. The chicken heads should attract the crocodile's interest, she said.

The hunt for the Hong Kong crocodile has captivated the territory and dominated newspaper headlines.

"I don't know how to rate my chances at this point," Mr Lever told Hong Kong's English-language daily, the South China Morning Post, which has sponsored his visit.

"Finding him is the easiest part. Getting close enough to catch him is the hard part. It requires a lot of stealth," said Mr Lever.

The crocodile, which is 1.2 metres long, is not native to Hong Kong.

It is believed to have escaped from a home where it was kept as a pet, or a farm on the Chinese mainland.

But the authorities fear the animal could harm someone, and they are determined to track it down.

So far they have been remarkably unsuccessful.

Teams of sharpshooters with tranquilizer darts failed to hit their target in front of the assembled media.

A series of traps have also failed.

On one occasion the crocodile managed to eat the food in a trap and slip away without getting caught.

But officials say they intend the animal no harm.

If its caught it will be sent to a zoo - no doubt as the top attraction.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/3269995.stm

Published: 2003/11/14 10:03:10 GMT

© BBC MMIII
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PostPosted: 15-11-2003 10:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would've thought that any crocodile in Hong Kong was living on borrowed time.

Good to see Steve Irwin doesn't get all the work.
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PostPosted: 15-11-2003 11:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not much of a story though, is it? Crocs are found in other parts of SE Asia, and i've visited a croc farm in Singapore. And it's not exactly a leviathan...according to our local paper a few years ago, we've had a bigger croc in my local Cheshire resevoir.
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PostPosted: 16-11-2003 17:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is quite an interesting story, it is on Hong Kong island. It is not a salt water crocodile so must have escaped from somewhere in the city itself. Homg Kong island is one of the most densely populated citys in the world so presumably a person keaping it in their flat (flats are incredably small in hong kong no bigger than a western living room usully) would have had a very hard time hiding it, let alone haveing space for it.

The crocodile is definatly on the loose as there has been a lot of vido footage of it in the city on bbc new 24 and none of it shaky cameraed or blured.

the Crocodile is still on the loose dispite John Leaver and the citys 'experts' best attempts to catch it, it's been on the lose for over 2 weeks now Smile
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PostPosted: 21-11-2003 04:49    Post subject: Man finds octopus in toilet Reply with quote

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Peorian finds octopus in his toilet

Origin of tentacled mollusk a mystery: 'I know they don't live in the river'

November 20, 2003

By LESLIE WILLIAMS
of the Journal Star

PEORIA - Chad Allen will never look at the toilet in his North Peoria home the same way again.

That's after he says he discovered a tiny octopus on the inside of it Wednesday afternoon.

"I looked over and saw something," said Allen, 31, of 634 W. Mount Hawley Terrace. "I thought it was a paper towel."

Instead, he found the dark brown mollusk with a head about the size of a quarter and eight sucker-covered tentacles several inches long.

"I couldn't believe it," Allen said. "It wasn't in the toilet water. It was resting on the side of the bowl."

He fetched a wooden spatula from the kitchen and gave the octopus a poke.

"It was dead."

Allen insisted the saltwater creature was not his and guessed somebody had flushed the octopus down the toilet after it died in an aquarium.

"I know they don't live in the river," he said.

An employee in the fish room at Super Pets, 910 W. Lake Ave., who asked to remain anonymous, said an octopus wouldn't last more than an hour in fresh water.

"They're pretty sensitive to changes," he said.

The employee said the pet store sometimes carries small octopuses, but it hasn't in a few months because they are hard to acquire.

"It's odd that (an octopus) can get backed up in the sewer system like that," Allen said. "The chances of it happening are so slim."

Stan Browning, executive director for the Greater Peoria Sanitary District, agreed.

"It's very unlikely something like that would happen," he said. "It's not impossible. It's extremely unlikely."

Plumber James Dillon, who's also mayor of West Peoria, found the toilet tale hard to believe.

"That's a first," he said. "I've never heard of it."

Dillon said if the octopus was flushed, it must have been by someone living near Allen's residence.

"It's wild that something like that would happen," he said. "Peoria has one of the best sewer systems in Illinois. All of the sewers are sealed."

Dillon added, however, there is nothing in the sewer system that would block an object the size of the octopus from coming up plumbing.

Browning said the only way an octopus would have gotten into the sewer system is if a pet owner flushed the creature down the toilet.

"We don't find exotic animals like that in the sewage," Browning said.

"The odds are really slim … that it traveled … up a pipe and into someone's toilet. It would move in the pipe the same direction the water is moving. It would move like any other sewage solid."

To make sure that no other Peorian finds a surprise in their toilet, Allen said he planned to throw the octopus into the garbage.

"I don't want it to wind back up in someone else's toilet," he said.


http://www.pjstar.com/news/local/b1cepdrj006.html

Mr Browning: Executive Director for the Greater Peoria Sanitary District!!

Priceless Smile

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PostPosted: 21-11-2003 17:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it was an artist's model for "The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife"
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PostPosted: 21-11-2003 17:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

BRF: Now that would probably be worth something Wink

Someone over at Tonmo claims they did it:

http://www.tonmo.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=14864#14864

and I've asked if they were joking (about doing it).

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PostPosted: 21-11-2003 19:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackRiverFalls wrote:

Perhaps it was an artist's model for "The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife"


u wicked person:eek!!!!:
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PostPosted: 21-11-2003 20:18    Post subject: Next time watch out for sharks Reply with quote

<<<Plumber James Dillon, who's also mayor of West Peoria...... said. "Peoria has one of the best sewer systems in Illinois.>>>

What a coincidence. Unexplained mystery right up the mayor's alley.

No, seriously, the explanation is very simple: someone must have eaten at a Greek restaurant. Smile
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PostPosted: 21-11-2003 20:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps it was an artist's model for "The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife"


You are also down one naked woman and one octopus but its a reasonable start (better than not having any octopi [mmmmmmmm octopie] or a naked woman).

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PostPosted: 21-11-2003 20:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

But seriously (or at least semi Wink ), this guy was just going to throw it in the trash? With no attempt made at itentification. There are at least 150 species of octopus, inhabiting most all of the world's ocean enviornments. One of the truly fascinating animals in the world.

If it was of the type that's found in aquariums or restraunts in central Illinois, the mystery would at least be somewhat lessened. If it was the tiny Blue-Ringed Octopus from Australia, the bite of which can kill an adult...Eek Eek I'd say the mystery was somewhat deepened.
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