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PostPosted: 19-07-2006 13:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like what would happen if you delicately pushed a cookie into some quite soft ice-cream, as if the saucer crashed sloooowly into the ground Wink
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PostPosted: 19-07-2006 13:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't the saucer have made some sort of impact crater when it crashed rather than simply neatly embedding itself into the ground? And shouldn't it show signs of damage?
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PostPosted: 19-07-2006 22:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shouldn't the saucer have made some sort of impact crater when it crashed rather than simply neatly embedding itself into the ground? And shouldn't it show signs of damage?


Im not sure, personaly I'v never come across one yet Smile
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PostPosted: 23-07-2006 09:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concerning how it got into the "ground" etc., I remember reading somewhere that it had crashed into the edge of a muddy pond, and was only discovered some time later after the pond had frozen over. The level area on one side of the UFO was said to be the frozen pond, and it was said to be stuck in the deep mud at the bottom of the pond.
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PostPosted: 23-12-2006 01:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mighty_Emperor wrote:
Catman~ wrote:
Sadly, it seems to be a hoax Sad

There's an in depth dissing of it here .

I saw it too.


I saw this too and it was scary. Really impresive work. That link doesn't work but the TV series was The Secret KGB UFO Files (back when adding Files to something would guarantee sales):

www.imdb.com/title/tt0224072/

A Skeptical review:

www.csicop.org/cmi/reviews/TNT-KGB.html

And an impressive evaluation with plenty of screenshots:

www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/kgbfiles.htm


Cropped up again via Pravda:

http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/86051-1/
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PostPosted: 26-12-2006 05:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are clearly American actors. I mean, not one of those 'Russians' is smoking... come on.
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PostPosted: 11-12-2013 20:08    Post subject: Re: Soviet Saucers Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
A while back, ITV broadcast a show (hosted by Roger Moore in Moscow) about Russian UFOs. This show had long sections of colour footage of a crashed UFO in the snow from the '50s or '60s, surrounded by soldiers. You saw them crawl all over it, army cameramen in shot, all sorts of stuff. Various "professional" analysts were interviewed claiming that the footage couldn't be a modern fake.

As I've never seen any reference to this anywhere else, I presume it was a hoax. Any info?

Thanks (it's been bugging me for ages).

The Soviet era UFO story in question resurfaces, complete with film clips and mini-ET autopsy footage.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/russia-alien-autopsy-crashed-ufo_n_4411271.html

New Twist In Decades Old Alien Autopsy Controversy (Graphic Video)

Huffington Post. Lee Speigel. 11 December 2013


A story is circulating around the Internet that suggests Russia has known about alien civilizations for many decades.

Part of this fantastic tale involves a UFO that allegedly crashed in 1969, was recovered by Russian military (see image below) and a dead alien that was reportedly autopsied, according to TheVoiceofRussia.com.

If this scenario sounds familiar, it's probably because of the most fabled and legendary story involving an alleged crashed UFO and the subsequent autopsy of its alien crew: Roswell, N.M., where those events supposedly occurred in 1947.

Despite official explanations that it was a secret military spy balloon that came down in New Mexico, the Roswell crash has kept the public enthralled for decades.

Not to be outdone, the nearly identical story emerged from the Soviet Union about an unknown craft that crashed near the former district of Sverdlovsk in 1969.

Maybe it's just easier to pronounce Roswell vs. Sverdlovsk.

But before we get all excited about the Soviet UFO-autopsy story, it should be pointed out that it's not new. The twist in this storyline is why the Russian event is suddenly getting more media attention than it has in the past.

This entire alleged incident was actually reported on a 1998 TNT special, "The Secret KGB UFO Files," and hosted by former James Bond actor Roger Moore. The program showed startling filmed segments of the alleged UFO crash -- as well as several minutes of the supposed autopsy of the dead alien.

CAUTION: Whether or not the autopsy is real, the following video is quite graphic.

http://youtu.be/vQ0E8-f6rBU


Most serious UFO researchers consider this story to be a complete hoax.

In his 1998 review of "The Secret KGB UFO Files," NBC News space consultant, former rocket scientist and UFO skeptic James Oberg pointed out how a disclaimer at the beginning of the program said: "What you are about to see may or may not be true."

"And at the end," Oberg writes, "two screens full of warning messages were even more to the point. One paragraph read: 'The Producers disclaim and do not guarantee the accuracy or truthfulness [of] any of the documentation or materials that have been provided by any source ... The materials and opinion presented on this program, including documents, film, photo, or video footage come from the sources and are not the responsibility of the Producers.'

"They couldn't have been more explicit in their announcement that the whole series of episodes about the recovery of a crashed flying saucer in 1969 near Sverdlovsk, and a subsequent autopsy ... was a made-up story with posed footage," Oberg wrote.

If, indeed, this was all a staged hoax, why would The Voice of Russia -- which currently broadcasts to 109 million listeners in 160 countries and is considered one of the top five radio broadcasters in the world -- suddenly circulate this story again now?

Here is more 1969 footage of the alleged crashed UFO from Russia.

http://youtu.be/iKMwAsoMlZM


The Voice of Russia also includes references to unconfirmed reports that a UFO crashed or was shot down near the city of Prohlandnyi, in the USSR on Aug. 10, 1989. Like the previous story, this one included alleged alien bodies.

Those aren't the only dubious stories involving UFOs and aliens to originate in Russia without any major media fanfare in the U.S. or anywhere else.

Earlier this year, the Russian Internet newspaper, Pravda.ru, suggested that a group of scientists had been in contact with extraterrestrials.

According to Pravda, a retired Ministry of Defense official, Alexey Savin, revealed to journalists that "in the late 1980s, a group of researchers from the Expert Management Unit of General Staff managed to make a contact with representatives of another civilization."

The Pravda story reported how the Ministry of Defense, in the mid 1980s, "organized a large-scale study of paranormal phenomena. The military training site was not a random choice. Experts have long come to the conclusion that UFOs inevitably appear in places where military equipment and weapons are tested."

Vasily Yeremenko, a member of the Academy of Security, Defense and Law Enforcement -- and formerly with the Soviet Union's security agency, the KGB -- was quoted by Pravda as saying that "the UFO topic today is ubiquitous. Precisely because of its scandalous nature, serious scientists are not willing to identify their position on this issue."

Aside from the question of why the 1969 crashed UFO-ET autopsy is making the rounds again, is it a surprise that mainstream U.S. media hasn't paid more attention to these stories over the years?

If a hoax, then an extraordinary elaborate one.

My friend, you have seen this incident based on sworn testimony. Can you prove that it didn't happen?
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