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PostPosted: 25-05-2002 13:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the last ice age ended the seas rose and all over the world coasts were submerged and islands were drowned.
1. People were spread over the planet prior to this.
2. People always build most heavily on coastlines.
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There must be thousands of sunken towns and cities all over the world.
Altantis is "the tip of the iceberg".
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PostPosted: 25-05-2002 16:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edgar Cayce, the 'sleeping prophet', reckoned he was given his predictions and medical advice from souls who'd lived in Atlantis.

I used to read about Cayce all the time as my Da had books about him. He is a little out of fashion now. Some of his prophesies involved Atlantis rising again from the sea and in fact it should have happened by now! Can't wait.
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PostPosted: 27-05-2002 06:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hancock's "Underworld" has loads of info on all of the above!

The Cayce prediction was 'fulfilled' when some Cayce supporters discovered the 'Bimini road', underwater in the Bahamas. Still much debate about what this really is, but it looks artificial to me.

The scientific evidence shows that the sea level rise after the last ice age was not steady (which would have been just centimetres per year), but happened in 3 major phases. Also, flooding was not just due to sea level rise - there were also major floods on land when ice barriers collapsed, releasing huge lakes of meltwater. And in certain areas, these floods reaching the sea could cause catastrophic sea level rises.

Other floods occured when rising sea levels breached land barriers, leading to the flooding of the Black Sea and the Persian Gulf.

I suspect that in another generation the idea of Flooded Kingdoms will be generally accepted, and a more intense phase of underwater archaeology will commence.

BTW Brian, you mean spring tides (revealing the old forest remains) not neaps.


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PostPosted: 11-10-2002 18:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two Atlantis threads merged here.

And...

New report on 'Cuban Atlantis'.
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Iturralde said volcanic rocks recovered at the site strongly suggest that the undersea plain was once above water, despite its extreme depth. He said the existence of those rocks was difficult to explain, especially because there are no volcanoes in Cuba.

He also said that if the symmetrical stones are determined to be the ruins of buildings, it could have taken 50,000 years or more for tectonic shifting to carry them so deep into the ocean. The ancient Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt is only about 5,000 years old, which means the Cuba site "wouldn't fit with what we know about human architectural evolution," he said.
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PostPosted: 26-04-2004 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hunt for Atlantis Leads Researcher to Cyprus

Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:20 AM ET



NICOSIA (Reuters) - A U.S. researcher who is convinced the fabled city of Atlantis is lurking in the watery deep off Cyprus will launch an exploratory mission this summer, he said on Monday.

"We believe our discovery will put Cyprus at the center of the world stage forever," Robert Sarmast told Reuters.

Sarmast said the east Mediterranean island is actually the pinnacle of the long-lost city and the rest of it is about one mile below sea level.

Using deep sea maps and clues found in Plato, Sarmast said he has discovered a sunken rectangular land mass stretching northeast from Cyprus toward Syria.

"We are going to sail 70 miles offshore Cyprus, directly over the spot where we believe Atlantis City lays submerged and waiting to be discovered," he said.

The mystery of Atlantis -- both whether it existed and why it disappeared -- has fired the imagination of explorers for centuries.

Many believe the ancient civilization was destroyed in the biblical flood and that it was possibly the site of the Garden of Eden.

Greek mythology says Atlantis was a powerful nation whose residents were so corrupted by greed and power that Zeus destroyed it.

Some say it is in the Aegean, others in the Azores or the Celtic Ridge of Britain, and others put it even farther a field in the South China Sea.

On Friday, he will herald the start of the expedition and Cyprus's membership to the European Union by heading out to the area where the mission will commence.

"At midnight we will deploy a sealed capsule to the seafloor containing a Cyprus flag, an EU flag and a flag bearing the symbol of Atlantis," he said.


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=4941073
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PostPosted: 30-04-2004 17:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=14071&cat_id=1
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The holy grail of archaeology
By Alex Mita

AMERICAN researcher Robert Sarmast yesterday officially launched an expedition that he hopes will result in the discovery of the lost island of Atlantis. The launch of the expedition is expected to be marked today when the scientists submerge a copper canister with the flags of Cyprus, the EU and a specially designed Atlantis flag five hours out at sea from Limassol port.

At a news conference aboard the vessel that will take the team of experts to a submerged continental shelf – where he believes was the plain of Atlantis – Sarmast said the search for the lost island was the holy grail of archaeology.

“After years of research, and having developed the most accurate maps and models of the eastern Mediterranean seafloor, we believe that we have found Plato’s legendary island of Atlantis and we aim to prove it this summer,” he said.

“This discovery is the holy grail of all archaeological discoveries and the ramifications are due to be staggering. The world could never be the same after this discovery. We celebrate the joining of Cyprus with the EU with this flag ceremony and we are going to sail over the area where we believe the cities of Atlantis were located.”

Sarmast said he believed Atlantis was located about 1,500 metres below water, just a short distance east of Cyprus.

“Once there, we are going to lower this copper capsule which is going to contain the flags of Cyprus, the EU and a flag bearing the symbol of Atlantis,” he said.

“We are going to lower it down to the seafloor around where the cities of Atlantis are located to commemorate this event. It will remain there and we hope some day in the future the world will once again find it and remember this day long after we hopefully discovered the temples of Atlantis.”

Sarmast said the 0,000 plus expedition was set to begin in June and would take place in different phases, through the collaborative efforts of the Cyprus based company EDT, and through the American based company Phoenix, along with other marine specialists from around the world.

In her speech, Yiorgoulla Lori of the Cyprus Tourism Organisation said the CTO welcomed the project that linked Cyprus with Atlantis.

“If this is proved, this is going to be a great event and a great discovery for Cyprus,” she said.

“Today we celebrate the link of Atlantis and Cyprus but also the island’s accession to the EU.”

Sarmast said the cities of Atlantis were numerous, with a group of them located on a rectangular plain that currently stretches from the south-eastern side of Cyprus to the shores of Syria.

“The main city we are going to be looking for is just about half way between Cyprus and Syria,” he said.

“We are going to cover about 150 to 200 square kilometres and we are going to have specialists from America that will operate a Remote Operated Vehicle (ROV), a robot equipped with cameras and arms.

“The ROV is capable of going all the way down to 6,000 metres and it’s one of the best in the world. (When submerged), the ROV will send back video footage and will take snapshots and we will use its arms to bring back any finds,” he added.

Sarmast said the search for Atlantis would be based on a series of clues left by Plato, including a very detailed description of the island as it was told by an ancient Egyptian priest to Solon, who in turn brought the story to Greece.

“We know exactly what this island looked like,” he said.

“There was a long rectangular plain that was at the foothills of this island, that stretched in an east west direction, and we know that the main cities were located near the middle of the plain.

“Not only do we have a match with the island but we also found a rectangular plain, and to our surprise we also found a pyramidal hill in the middle of this plain that matches the description of the Acropolis hill.

“The level of matches is beyond a scale where you can say it’s just coincidental. We have the exact co-ordinates of the Acropolis hill, which is where the main temples and structures where located.”

Sarmast said the structures would be preserved at that depth due to the lack of oxygen and sunlight, something that would increase the odds of finding them and filming them to prove the island existed.

“We are not just looking for a ship or a small item but an entire city,” he said.

“All we really have to do is to film a cut-stone block or a megalithic structure that’s laid out in some geometrical shape of a building on the sea floor.

“We are not looking to retrieve anything although maybe we can bring a little piece of rock or something of a wall, but our aim is to film it.

“If all goes well we’ll be bringing you good news about the greatest archaeological discovery in human history in the near future and we will inaugurate the dawn of a new era of knowledge for human kind.”
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PostPosted: 02-05-2004 18:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does the phrase `publicity stunt` spring to mind??

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PostPosted: 03-05-2004 06:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mines on Atlantis~Antartica. It all seems so obvious:rolleyes:
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PostPosted: 07-08-2004 11:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ireland Is Lost Island of Atlantis, Says Scientist
Fri 6 August, 2004 16:52

By Kevin Smith

DUBLIN (Reuters) - Atlantis, the legendary island nation over whose existence controversy has raged for thousands of years, was actually Ireland, according to a new theory by a Swedish scientist.

Atlantis, the Greek philosopher Plato wrote in 360 BC, was an island in the Atlantic Ocean where an advanced civilization developed some 11,500 years ago until it was hit by a cataclysmic natural disaster and sank beneath the waves.

Geographer Ulf Erlingsson, whose book explaining his theory will be published next month, says the measurements, geography, and landscape of Atlantis as described by Plato match Ireland almost exactly.

"I am amazed no one has come up with this before, it's incredible," he told Reuters.

"Just like Atlantis, Ireland is 300 miles long, 200 miles wide, and widest across the middle. They both have a central plain surrounded by mountains.

"I've looked at geographical data from the rest of the world and of the 50 largest islands there is only one that has a plain in the middle -- Ireland."

Erlingsson believes the idea that Atlantis sank came from the fate of Dogger Bank, an isolated shoal in the North Sea, about 60 miles off the northeastern coast of England, which sank after being hit by a huge floodwave around 6,100 BC.

"I suspect that myth came from Ireland and it derives from Dogger Bank. I think the memory of Dogger Bank was probably preserved in Ireland for around 3,000 years and became mixed up with the story of Atlantis," he said.

Erlingsson links the boundaries of the Atlantic Empire, as outlined by Plato, with the geographic distribution of megalithic monuments in Europe and Northern Africa, matching Atlantis' temples with well-known burial sites at Newgrange and Knowth, north of Dublin, which pre-date the pyramids.

His book, "Atlantis from a Geographer's Perspective: Mapping the Fairy Land," calculates the probability Plato would have had access to geographical data about Ireland as 99.98 percent.

Previous theories about Atlantis have suggested it may have been around the Azores islands 900 miles west of the Portuguese coast, or in the Aegean sea. Others locate it solely in the long-decayed brain of Plato.


http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=5899085&section=news

there's also another report linked on here:

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PostPosted: 07-08-2004 15:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put em all in a labyrinth I say, the minotaurs getting hungry...
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PostPosted: 13-11-2004 18:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Atlantis Hunt Reveals Structures in Sea Off Cyprus

Sat 13 November, 2004 12:11

NICOSIA (Reuters) - An American researcher on the trail of the lost city of Atlantis has discovered evidence of man-made structures submerged in the sea between Cyprus and Syria, a member of his team said Saturday.

Robert Sarmast, who is convinced the fabled city lurks in the watery depths off Cyprus, will give details of his findings Sunday.

"Something has been found to indicate very strongly that there are man-made structures somewhere between Cyprus and Syria," a spokesperson for the mission told Reuters.

The mystery of Atlantis, both whether it existed and why it disappeared, has fired the imagination of explorers for decades.

Many believe the ancient civilization was destroyed in a massive flood, a cataclysm which many ancient cultures believe occurred around 9,000 BC.

Greek mythology says Atlantis was a powerful nation whose residents were so corrupted by greed and power that Zeus destroyed it.

Theories place Atlantis either somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, or the Greek island of Santorini, or off the Celtic Ridge of Britain or even further afield in the South China Sea.

Sarmast's theory is that Cyprus is the pinnacle of Atlantis, with the rest of it about a mile below sea level.

His expedition took place some 70 miles off the eastern coast of Cyprus toward Syria.


http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=6804176&section=news
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PostPosted: 13-11-2004 18:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many statements in that article are doubtful or just outright wrong? I count at least six.
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PostPosted: 15-11-2004 04:44    Post subject: BBC pick up the thread. Reply with quote

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New claim on location of Atlantis
By Tabitha Morgan
BBC News, Cyprus


American researchers claim to have found convincing evidence that locates the site of the lost kingdom of Atlantis off the coast of Cyprus.

The team spent six days scanning the Mediterranean sea bed between Cyprus and Syria using sonar technology.

They believe they found evidence of massive, manmade structures beneath the ocean floor, including two straight, 2-km (1.25 mile) long walls on a hill.

They say their discoveries match accounts of the city written by Plato.

'Greatest coincidence'

Team leader Robert Sarmast said the walls appear to be sited on a flat-topped hill where the temples of Atlantis once stood.

He intends to use the sonar data to make a three-dimensional computer image of the site, 1.5km below sea level, before returning for further research.

Amphoras on the seabed
Hundreds of amphora, a type of urn, were found on the seabed

"The hill, as a whole, basically looks like a walled, hillside territory and this hillside territory matches Plato's description of the Acropolis hill with perfect precision," he said.

"Even the dimensions are exactly perfect, so if all these things are coincidental, I mean, we have the world's greatest coincidence going on."

However, Mr Sarmast and his team are not alone in believing they have found the lost city of Atlantis.

Other researchers have placed it off the coast of Spain, Cuba and the south west of England, as well as under the South China Sea.

The story of Atlantis, a fabled utopia destroyed in ancient times, has captured the imagination of scholars ever since it was first described by the philosopher Plato.

Writing more than 2,000 years ago, he depicted a land of fabulous wealth, advanced civilisation and natural beauty.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4011545.stm
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PostPosted: 16-11-2004 03:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Far more definitive statements:

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We've definitely found Atlantis, researcher says

A US researcher says he has "definitely" found the lost civilisation of Atlantis in the watery deep off Cyprus, adding his theory to a mystery which has baffled explorers for centuries.

Robert Sarmast says a Mediterranean basin was flooded in a deluge about 9,000 BC, submerging a rectangular land mass he believes was Atlantis.

The land mass now lies 1.5 kilometres beneath sea level between Cyprus and Syria.

"We have definitely found it," said Mr Sarmast, who led a team of explorers 80 kilometres off the south-east coast of Cyprus this month.

He says deep water sonar scanning has indicated man-made structures - including a three-kilometre-long wall, a walled hill summit and deep trenches - on a submerged hill.

Mr Sarmast says further explorations are needed.

"We cannot yet provide tangible proof in the form of bricks and mortar as the artefacts are still buried under several metres of sediment but the circumstantial and other evidence is irrefutable," he said.

At a news conference in the port city of Limassol, Mr Sarmast provided only animated simulations of the "hill".

Whether and where Atlantis existed has captured imaginations for centuries.

According to ancient Greek philosopher Plato, Atlantis was an island nation where an advanced civilisation developed about 11,500 years ago.

Theories abound as to why it disappeared, from Atlantis being hit by a cataclysmic natural disaster to Greek mythology which describes the civilisation as being so corrupted by greed and power that it was destroyed by God.

Sceptics believe Atlantis was a figment of Plato's imagination.

Mr Sarmast says he was led to Cyprus by clues in Plato's dialogues.

Plato's reference to Atlantis lying opposite the Pillars of Hercules - believed to be the Straits of Gibraltar - have often led explorers to focus on either the Atlantic Ocean, Ireland or the Azores off Portugal.

"People who dismiss this have not really done their homework, sceptics don't really understand," Mr Sarmast said.

"To understand the enigma of Atlantis you have to have good knowledge of ancient history, Biblical references, the Sumerian culture and their tablets and so on."

Although the most prevailing story of a world cataclysm is listed in the Biblical Old Testament, several ancient cultures do list accounts of civilisations being destroyed in floods.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1243509.htm
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PostPosted: 16-11-2004 03:54    Post subject: The Man From Atlantis Reply with quote

And this appears to make me a genuine, bona fide, honest to goodness Atlantean. I haven't really thought what to do with my new found status but I think going to those QuestCon meetings and telling people that they are warong and I know they are wrong because I am from Atlantis.

I am also considering:


  • Impregnating impresionable hippy women
  • Selling a bucket of beach pebbles as the last remnants of lost Atlantis


But mainly heckling for now.
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