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Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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 Posted: 10-05-2004 01:34 Post subject: Message in a bottle |
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| Quote: | Boy Gets Response to Message in Bottle
Sun May 2,10:37 PM ET
FLAGLER BEACH, Fla. - It didn't make it across the Atlantic, but 7-year-old Dylan Goodman got a long-distance answer to a message put in a bottle that was thrown in the ocean.
His floating note sent March 4 said: "Hi. My name is Dylan. I'm 7 years old and if you find this message, please write back."
A surprising reply, postmarked in Jork, Germany, several weeks later, had the first-grader, his family and friends wondering how the bottle could have made the 4,637-mile journey.
What the message didn't say was that the bottle made only a short trip.
"I found the bottle in Flagler Beach," explained Sybille Lohse, who answered the youngster's note.
"We stay seven months in Germany, five months in Flagler Beach," she said. "I found the bottle in the middle of March. We go back to Germany end of March."
The reality was disappointing to Dylan's mom, Kelly Goodman.
"In a way, I wish we never knew that," she said Saturday. "But I guess the mystery is solved. It was kind of bizarre that it would get there that quickly."
Goodman said Dylan and his sister Megan, 10, had each tossed a bottle out to sea on the morning of Megan's birthday. It was something she had done as a child and she thought it would be fun for the kids. |
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| caroleaswas Diva Mentalis Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Total posts: 4607 Age: 8 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 12-06-2004 20:02 Post subject: |
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I once sent a message in a bottle; I threw it in the sea at Whitley Bay some time during the 70s, but never got a reply.
Carole |
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| FelixAntonius Outsider.
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| Posted: 12-06-2004 22:08 Post subject: |
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I remember as a kid, (mid '60's), a friend throwing a message in a bottle into the local stream.
It was picked out about five miles down stream & returned & he was charged double postage, as the returnee, didn't put a stamp on the letter!!!!!! |
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| theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 31-03-2005 13:36 Post subject: |
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http://www.conwasa.demon.co.uk/bottle.htm
| Quote: | Welcome to the Message in a bottle server located at Brighton UK
Enter a message here and it will be printed off, put in a bottle and thown from Brigton Pier on the south coast of England.
Where the bottle goes depends on a combination of wind and waves. Waves and tide are the most important factor and tends to carry things towards the west. The prevailing wind comes from the south west.
To use this fantastic service, enter your message here: |
Fantastic indeed.  |
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| Philo_T But, this one goes to 11! Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Total posts: 1339 Location: slaving away in the bit mines Age: 47 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 31-03-2005 16:22 Post subject: |
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| I once tossed a message in a bottle into the Florida Straits on a school boat trip. Several years later, I got a letter from a fisherman on the far side of Cuba that had found the bottle. (This was pre-Mariel boatlift, tail end of the Cold War, so an American getting a letter from some random Cuban was quite unusual.) |
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| TheQuixote Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Total posts: 4085 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 31-05-2005 19:45 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Bottle message saves lost vessel
Costa Rican officials say 86 shipwrecked migrants have been rescued after fishermen found a message in a bottle they had thrown overboard.
The migrants, mainly teenagers from Ecuador and Peru, had been adrift in their packed boat for three days.
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The smugglers stripped the boat of radio and communication equipment when they left it.
"Incredibly [...] these people, who are quite young, wrote a message saying: 'Please Help Us' and put it in a bottle," said Francisco Estrada of marine protection group MarViva.
The bottle, and the SOS message it contained, was found by local fishermen who alerted the park wardens, the only inhabitants of the island, a world heritage site.
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Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/4594591.stm
Published: 2005/05/30 23:58:03 GMT
© BBC MMV |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
Joined: 18 Aug 2002 Total posts: 19943 Location: Mongo Age: 42 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 12-07-2005 17:45 Post subject: |
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A very odd story indeed:
| Quote: | Floating ideas
What could be more romantic than a maths message in a bottle?
Marc Abrahams
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian
Almost nothing is more romantic than a mathematical theorem - if that theorem is stuffed into a bottle and cast adrift during a perilous sea voyage in wartime, and if the person who wrote it is one of the world's top mathematicians. Shizuo Kakutani, who died last August, threw many such bottles into the ocean more than 60 years ago. Their fate is a complete mystery.
Kakutani went on to become a legendary mathematician. Like most famous mathematicians, his fame is mostly among those in his profession.
Indirectly, though, the public is almost aware of Kakutani, for two reasons. The movie and book A Beautiful Mind was about the mathematician John Nash. Nash's most famous concept, the Nash equilibrium, is based on the Kakutani fixed-point theorem. And Kakutani's daughter, Michiko, is the most influential book reviewer at the New York Times.
The story of Kakutani's bottled theorems has only just now been told outside the tight circles of those who really, truly, deeply understand the nature of, well, circles. Stanley Eigen, a mathematics professor at Northeastern University in Boston, wrote an appreciation of his longtime collaborator and friend. He published it in the Annals of Improbable Research.
Eigen explains: "At the start of world war two, Kakutani was a visiting professor at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. With the outbreak of war he was given the option of staying at the institute or returning to Japan. He chose to return.
"So he was put on a Swedish ship which sailed across the Atlantic, down around the Cape, and up to Madagascar, or thereabouts, where he and other Japanese were traded for Americans on a ship from Japan.
"The trip across the Atlantic was long and hard. What, you may wonder, did Kakutani do? He proved theorems. Every day, he sat on deck and worked on his mathematics. Every night, he took his latest theorem, put it in a bottle and threw it overboard. Each one contained the instruction that if found it should be sent to the institute in Princeton. To this day, not a single letter has been received."
Is there much chance of finding them? No one knows. There is precious little scholarship about messages found in bottles. Robert Kraske's too-slim book The Twelve Million Dollar Note: Strange But True Tales of Messages Found in Seagoing Bottles. The messages-in-bottles collection at the Turks and Caicos National Museum. The rubber-ducks-and-other-things-that-wash-up-on-beaches research of Seattle-based oceanographer Curtis Ebbesmeyer. These, our greatest chronicler/gatherers, have so far disappointed us in the case of Kakutani. |
http://education.guardian.co.uk/egweekly/story/0,,1526017,00.html
The bookcan can be found cheap as chips at Amazon.com (I assume theya re the same book):
The twelve million dollar note: And other strange but true sea stories by Robert Kraske
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006YN0DE/wwwrevenantmc-20
The twelve million dollar note: Strange but true tales of messages found in seagoing bottles by Robert Kraske
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0840765754/wwwrevenantmc-20
I also found this:
The Voyager's Stone: The Adventures of a Message-Carrying Bottle Adrift on the Ocean Sea
Robert Kraske, Brian Floca (Illustrator)
www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0531087409/revenantmagaz-21
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0531068900/wwwrevenantmc-20
| Quote: | | Gr. 4-6. Although written as a fictional account of a message-carrying bottle, this book really explores oceanography--currents, animals, and the variety of life found at the margins of the world's oceans. While on a Caribbean vacation, a boy from Minnesota puts a message in a bottle. His note is eventually retrieved by a girl living on Australia's north coast. The text is particularly well detailed when it considers predation and the food chain, and the drawings by Brian Floca that record the bottle's journey are at their best when they picture animals. The book may appeal more to children already fascinated by the subject: it's a much more appealing approach than the usual stuffy overview of current charts and facts. |
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 12-07-2005 21:41 Post subject: |
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I put a message in a bottle and thre it in the Thames at cricklade some years back. (1991 I think)
no reply.
But what true fortean hasnt ever attempted this? |
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| Ronson8 Things can only get better.
Great Old One Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Total posts: 6061 Location: MK Gender: Male |
| Posted: 12-07-2005 23:44 Post subject: |
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| Homo Aves wrote: | I put a message in a bottle and thre it in the Thames at cricklade some years back. (1991 I think)
no reply.
But what true fortean hasnt ever attempted this? |
Yep, Southend 1975, also no reply.  |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
| Posted: 13-07-2005 00:01 Post subject: |
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| Pete Younger wrote: | | Homo Aves wrote: | I put a message in a bottle and thre it in the Thames at cricklade some years back. (1991 I think)
no reply.
But what true fortean hasnt ever attempted this? |
Yep, Southend 1975, also no reply. |
A lot of rocky coasts around the world where a bottle will be smashed to smithereens, and its enclosures would be saturated, then ripped to shreds. Or caught in the screw of a supertanker with similar results.
You may dream about where and when your bottles met their grisly fate!
And I don't think I ever have thrown a message in the sea. Confused by which was ecologically the better option, glass or plastic bottles, I suppose...
It's all litter, in the end, and potentially harmful. |
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| Ronson8 Things can only get better.
Great Old One Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Total posts: 6061 Location: MK Gender: Male |
| Posted: 13-07-2005 00:19 Post subject: |
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I'm overwhelmed by your logic Ryn.  |
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| RainyOcean Alien Kitty
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| Posted: 13-07-2005 00:21 Post subject: |
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| Yeah, same reason I havn't done it. It would be interesting to see if I got a reply, but the Earth's allready polluted enough without me adding to it by doing silly experiments. |
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| Ronson8 Things can only get better.
Great Old One Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Total posts: 6061 Location: MK Gender: Male |
| Posted: 13-07-2005 00:28 Post subject: |
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| RainyOcean wrote: | | Yeah, same reason I havn't done it. It would be interesting to see if I got a reply, but the Earth's allready polluted enough without me adding to it by doing silly experiments. |
Nothing polluting about a glass bottle and cork, if it survives ok, if it smashes it returns to it's original state.
Ye gods, is romance dead? |
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 13-07-2005 08:57 Post subject: |
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| Seems so |
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| uair01 Great Old One Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Total posts: 1108 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 13-07-2005 14:19 Post subject: |
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A few years ago I threw 10 small plastic (!) bottles of a bridge near the Swiss village of Oberdiessbach. I had put my e-mail address inside the bottles. A few weeks later I received 3 replies from people who had found the bottles, some even with a link to an Internet map. One bottle had made it into a riverside swimming pool in Bern. So not more than 10-20 km.
In theory they could have gone all the way to the Rhine and into the ocean 
Maybe this year I'll repeat the experiment. It was fun. (The empty bottles were useless trash anyway. I just didn't throw them in the dustbin ...) |
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