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ted_bloody_maul Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2003 Total posts: 4877 Location: Quester's Psykick Dancehall Gender: Unknown |
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| I can appreciate that there's the possibility of an attack of some kind in order to show that AQ or its offshoots are still active but I wouldn't expect anything to materialise in the short term. These groups are not exactly known for restraint so if they have anything to pull of the peg, so to speak, I would have thought they would have used it regardless of events. |
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| BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
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| Posted: 04-05-2011 21:52 Post subject: |
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Follow up on the Sellafield 'suspects:
| Quote: | Sellafield nuclear site terror suspects released
Five men arrested close to the Sellafield nuclear site under the Terrorism Act have been released without charge.
The men, all from London and in their 20s, were arrested on Monday afternoon after a stop check on a vehicle close to the Sellafield site, in Cumbria.
The BBC understands the men had been taking photographs.
The North West Counter Terrorism Unit led the investigation. It was supported by Cumbria Constabulary.
The men, all thought to be of Bangladeshi origin, were held in Carlisle overnight on Monday and then moved to Manchester the following day.
Under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000, a police officer can arrest anyone they "reasonably suspect" of being a terrorist.
The arrests were made within hours of the news breaking that Osama Bin Laden had been killed in Pakistan, and members of the public being warned to remain vigilant over fears of reprisals from groups sympathetic to al-Qaeda.
The Sellafield site is responsible for decommissioning and reprocessing nuclear waste and fuel manufacturing on behalf of the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority.
The site, which has operated since the 1940s, is heavily protected by both officers from the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, who carried out the arrests, and private security. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13284968
Unless they'd been inside the complex itself, they prob. didn;t have any pics they couldn;t have got straight from google street view. |
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| Quake42 Warrior Princess
Great Old One Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Total posts: 5310 Location: Over Silbury Hill, through the Solar field Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 06-05-2011 01:10 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Unless they'd been inside the complex itself, they prob. didn;t have any pics they couldn;t have got straight from google street view.
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Yes - and in any case in the absence of any other evidence (nothing of interest seems to have been found in their homes) I doubt there was anything they could have been charged with anyway.
Still seems an odd place to be taking photos, mind you.  |
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| Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
| Posted: 06-05-2011 09:51 Post subject: |
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| Quake42 wrote: | | Still seems an odd place to be taking photos, mind you. |
Not really. I remember a friend of mine taking photos of Hinkley Point, way back in the '80s. They're pretty impressive locations, especially if (like him) you're into engineering, etc.. |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Posted: 06-05-2011 14:08 Post subject: |
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| Jerry_B wrote: | | Quake42 wrote: | | Still seems an odd place to be taking photos, mind you. |
Not really. I remember a friend of mine taking photos of Hinkley Point, way back in the '80s. They're pretty impressive locations, especially if (like him) you're into engineering, etc.. |
Maybe theres a whole sub-culture of NPP spotters. |
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| Quake42 Warrior Princess
Great Old One Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Total posts: 5310 Location: Over Silbury Hill, through the Solar field Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 16-05-2011 14:33 Post subject: |
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There have been a number of road closures in London today, not just the Mall.
| Quote: | Bomb warning received in London
A bomb warning has been received relating to central London, the Metropolitan Police has confirmed.
The force said the threat did not provide specifics about location or time.
The Mall and other central London streets were closed on Monday morning although a link has not been confirmed.
The warning is thought to be related to Irish dissident republicans but the threat level for Northern Ireland-related terrorism has not been changed.
Threat level
The BBC understands the police received a coded bomb warning on Sunday night.
The Met Police statement said: "All officers have been advised to be highly vigilant to ensure the safety of London."
It told the public to continue going about their business but to be vigilant.
BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said: "My understanding is that this may have come because of a coded warning, which is why there is more concern about it than normal. Threats come in and out all the time.
"But if it was a specific code word warning, that would suggest something more serious and that would be why we have had this alert."
He added it was significant that the threat level from dissident Irish terrorism had not been raised.
"Officials I have spoken to are trying to stress that it is not as if they have concrete intelligence of a specific attack at a particular time, or that would have gone up high in terms of the threat."
A Home Office spokesman said the UK faced a "real and serious threat from terrorism".
"The overall threat level from international terrorism remains at severe which means that an attack is highly likely.
"The threat level to Great Britain from Northern Irish-related terrorism remains at substantial, which means that an attack is a strong possibility.
"There is a continuing need for vigilance and the public should report any suspicious activity to the police."
Security alert
Earlier on Monday, The Mall and Carlton House Terrace were closed after a disturbed manhole cover sparked an alert.
The Metropolitan Police have confirmed they are investigating a break-in at Carlton Gardens but could not confirm whether or not the incident was linked to the closure.
They were called at 0420 but the suspects had fled.
The building involved is believed to be 2 Carlton Gardens, which houses the Institute for Government think tank.
That is adjacent to the foreign secretary's residence, where William Hague is believed to have been at the time.
BBC pictures from the scene show a van of search dogs, and the Met's underwater and confined spaces search team.
Roads around Northumberland Avenue were also closed while a bag was destroyed in a controlled explosion. The roads have now reopened.
Police said the bag was no longer deemed suspicious.
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Posted: 16-05-2011 16:31 Post subject: |
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| Very clever Gardai preparing for the Queens visit. People entering Parnell Square East from O'Connell Street have their bags searched but those entering it from the other end, Nth Frederick Street suffer no such inconvenience. |
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| Quake42 Warrior Princess
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| Posted: 19-09-2011 11:09 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Seven held in Birmingham anti-terror operation
Six men and a woman have been arrested in Birmingham in a large anti-terrorism operation, West Midlands Police say.
The men, aged between 25 and 32, are being held on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism in the UK.
The woman, 22, is held on suspicion of failing to disclose information contrary to the Terrorism Act 2000.
The arrests are thought to be the most significant this year, BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said.
It is understood the investigation, which has involved security service MI5, relates to suspected Islamist extremism.
But the arrests are not thought to be related to the Liberal Democrats' conference which is taking place at the city's International Convention Centre.
'Ensure safety'
The men were taken into custody by unarmed officers in the Moseley, Sparkbrook, Sparkhill, Ward End and Balsall Heath areas of Birmingham between 11:30 BST on Sunday and 1:00 BST on Monday, police said.
Police said specialist teams were searching their homes and seven other properties in the city - six domestic and one commercial.
West Midlands Police Assistant Chief Constable for security Marcus Beale said: "The operation is in its early stages so we are unable to go into detail at this time about the nature of the suspected offences.
"However, I believe it was necessary to take action at this time in order to ensure public safety."
The men and woman are being questioned at an unnamed police station and can be held for up to 14 days.
The terrorism threat level in England, Wales and Scotland remains unchanged at "substantial" - meaning that an attack is a "strong possibility".
Our correspondent said the fact the arrests were carried out by unarmed officers suggested there was no imminent threat suspected.
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| Analis Great Old One Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Total posts: 851 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 16-05-2012 13:34 Post subject: |
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Kurt HASKELL gives his personal appreciation of the attempted terrorist attack on Flight Northwest 253 on 25.12.2009, which more and more appears to have been another state-staged terrorist event.
Kurt Haskell was notably one of the witnesses of the presence of a mysterious man in a tan suit, whose existence the FBI would at first deny, before reluctanctly acknowledging he might have been present. Which confirms that FBI agents should definitely be tested for their visual acuity.
http://haskellfamily.blogspot.fr/2012/02/victim-impact-statement.html
| Quote: | Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Victim Impact Statement
by Kurt Haskell
Every victim of a crime in Michigan is entitled to make a statement in open court regarding the impact of the crime on their life. The statement is limited to the victim's physical, emotional and financial well being as it relates to the crime. Keep that in my as you read my statement. Below is a copy of the victim impact statement I gave today at the Underwear Bomber sentencing hearing. When reading my statement, keep in mind that I am a practicing attorney in the State of Michigan. In addition, I regularly practice in the Court the hearings are taking place at and therefore, I am somewhat limited as to what I can say. We were limited to 5 minutes each.
I wish to thank the Court for allowing me these 5 minutes to make my statement. My references to the government in this statement refer to the Federal Government excluding this Court and the prosecution. On Christmas Day 2009, my wife and I were returning from an African safari and had a connecting flight through Amsterdam. As we waited for our flight, we sat on the floor next to the boarding gate. What I witnessed while sitting there and subsequent events have changed my life forever. While I sat there, I witnessed Umar dressed in jeans and a white t-shirt, being escorted around security by a man in a tan suit who spoke perfect American English and who aided Umar in boarding without a passport. The airline gate worker initially refused Umar boarding until the man in the tan suit intervened. The event meant nothing to me at the time. Little did I know that Umar would try to kill me a few hours later as our flight approached Detroit. The final 10 minutes of our flight after the attack were the worst minutes of my life. During those 10 minutes I sat paralyzed in fear. Unfortunately, what happened next has had an even greater impact on my life and has saddened me further.
When we landed, I was shocked that our plane taxied up to the gate. I was further shocked that we were forced to sit on the plane for 20 minutes with powder from the so called bomb all over the cabin. The officers that boarded the plane did nothing to ensure our safety and did not check for accomplices or other explosive devices. Several passengers trampled through parts of the bomb as they exited the plane. We were then taken into the terminal with our unchecked carry on bags. Again, there was no concern for our safety even though Umar told the officers that there was another bomb on board as he exited the plane. I wondered why nobody was concerned about our safety, accomplices or other bombs and the lack of concern worried me greatly. I immediately told the FBI my story in order to help catch the accomplice I had seen in Amsterdam. It soon became obvious that the FBI wasn't interested in what I had to say, which upset me further. For one month the government refused to admit the existence of the man in the tan suit before changing course and admitting his existence in an ABC News article on January 22, 2010. That was the last time the government talked about this man. The video that would prove the truth of my account has never been released. I continue to be emotional upset that the video has not been released. The Dutch police, meanwhile, in this article (show article), also confirmed that Umar did not show his passport in Amsterdam which also meant that he didn't go through security as both are in the same line in Amsterdam. It upsets me that the government refuses to admit this fact.
I became further saddened from this case, when Patrick Kennedy of the State Department during Congressional hearings, admitted that Umar was a known terrorist, was being followed, and the U.S. allowed him into the U.S. so that it could catch Umar's accomplices. I was once again shocked and saddened when Michael Leiter of the National Counter terrorism Center admitted during these same hearings that intentionally letting terrorists into the U.S. was a frequent practice of the U.S. Government. I cannot fully explain my sadness, disappointment and fear when I realized that my government allowed an attack on me intentionally.
During this time, I questioned if my country intentionally put a known terrorist onto my flight with a live bomb. I had many sleepless nights over this issue. My answer came shortly thereafter. In late 2010, the FBI admitted to giving out intentionally defective bombs to the Portland Christmas Tree Bomber,the Wrigley Field Bomber and several others. Further, Mr. Chambers was quoted in the Free Press on January 11, 2011 when he indicated that the government's own explosives experts had indicated that Umar's bomb was impossibly defective. I wondered how that could be. Certainly, I thought, Al Qaeda wouldn't go through all of the trouble to plan such an attack only to provide the terrorist with an impossibly defective bomb.
I attended nearly all of the pretrial hearings. At the hearing on January 28, 2011, I was greatly disappointed by the prosecution's request to block evidence from Mr. Chambers "as it could then be able to be obtained by third parties, who could use it in a civil suit against the government". It really bothered me that the government apparently was admitting to wrongdoing of some kind as it admitted that it was concerned it would be sued. It further upset me to know that the government was putting its own interests ahead of those of the passengers.
When I attended the jury selection hearings, I questioned why versions of the same two questions kept coming up, those being:
1. Do you think whether you'll be able to tell whether something is actually a bomb? and
2. Do you realize that sometimes the media doesn't always tell the truth?
I continued to be greatly saddened at this point as I felt the truth continued to be hidden.
When Umar listed me as his only witness, I was happy to testify, not on his behalf, but on behalf of the truth. I never expected to testify, as my eyewitness account would have been too damaging to the myth that the government and media are putting forward. A mere 5 days after I was announced as a witness, there was an inexplicable guilty plea which exasperated me as I no longer would be testifying.
In closing I will just say that regardless of how the media and government try to shape the public perception of this case, I am convinced that Umar was given an intentionally defective bomb by a U.S. Government agent and placed on our flight without showing a passport or going through security, to stage a false terrorist attack to be used to implement various government policies.
The effect this matter has had on my life has been astounding and due to this case, I will never trust the government in any matter, ever.
In regards to sentencing, nothing I've said excuses the fact that Umar tried to kill me. He has waived his valid claim to the entrapment defense. Umar, you are not a great Muslim martyr, you are merely a "Patsy".
I ask the court to impose the mandatory sentence. |
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| Analis Great Old One Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Total posts: 851 Gender: Unknown |
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It is not surprising that the more recent "underwear bomber" case raises similar questions :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/09/underwear-bomber-working-for-cia
| Quote: | 'Underwear bomber' was working for the CIA
Bomber involved in plot to attack US-bound jet was working as an informer with Saudi intelligence and the CIA, it has emerged
Paul Harris and Ed Pilkington in New York
The Guardian, Wednesday 9 May 2012
'Underwear bomber' involved in a plot to attack jet was in fact working as an undercover informer with the CIA, it has emerged.
A would-be "underwear bomber" involved in a plot to attack a US-based jet was in fact working as an undercover informer with Saudi intelligence and the CIA, it has emerged.
The revelation is the latest twist in an increasingly bizarre story about the disruption of an apparent attempt by al-Qaida to strike at a high-profile American target using a sophisticated device hidden in the clothing of an attacker.
The plot, which the White House said on Monday had involved the seizing of an underwear bomb by authorities in the Middle East sometime in the last 10 days, had caused alarm throughout the US.
It has also been linked to a suspected US drone strike in Yemen where two Yemeni members of al-Qaida were killed by a missile attack on their car on Sunday, one of them a senior militant, Fahd Mohammed Ahmed al-Quso.
But the news that the individual at the heart of the bomb plot was in fact an informer for US intelligence is likely to raise just as many questions as it answers.
Citing US and Yemeni officials, Associated Press reported that the unnamed informant was working under cover for the Saudis and the CIA when he was given the bomb, which was of a new non-metallic type aimed at getting past airport security.
The informant then turned the device over to his handlers and has left Yemen, the officials told the news agency. The LA Times, which first broke the news that the plot had been a "sting operation", said that the bomb plan had also provided the intelligence leads that allowed the strike on Quso.
Earlier John Brennan, Barack Obama's top counter-terrorism adviser and a former CIA official, told ABC's Good Morning America that authorities are "confident that neither the device nor the intended user of this device pose a threat to us".
US officials have said the plot was detected in its early stages and that no American airliner was ever at risk.
The FBI is conducting forensic tests on the bomb as a first step towards discovering whether it would have cleared existing airport scanning systems. Dianne Feinstein, the Democratic senator for California who heads the Senate intelligence committee, gave an early hint when she said that she had been briefed about the device which she called "undetectable".
But AP quoted an unnamed US official as saying current detection methods probably would have spotted the shape of the explosive in the latest device.
Just how major an escalation in threat is posed by the bomb remains unclear. Security sources have told news agencies that it was a step up in levels of sophistication from the original underwear bomb that was used in a failed attempt to blow up an airliner over Detroit on Christmas Day in 2009.
The device used a more refined detonation system, and Brennan said "it was a threat from a standpoint of the design".
When it comes to who made the device the focus is on an al-Qaida's offshoot, Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). Matthew Levitt, a counter-terrorism expert at the Washington Institute, said that the interception of the plot amounted to a significant achievement for US security agencies.
He said: "The FBI is holding the device, which suggests that this was done by having boots on the ground. This was a sophisticated operation that shows we are making in-roads in serious places."
Levitt, who was involved as a senior analyst in the FBI's investigation into 9/11, said that it was natural to be sceptical in a presidential election year about security announcements. "But this was not political, it didn't come from the White House and my sense was that it was a really unique success," he said.
Levitt said that the spotlight would now be even more intense on Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri, AQAP's assumed bomb-making chief, who is thought to be hiding out in Yemen.
Asiri is believed to have been the creator of the Detroit underwear bomb as well as explosives that were packed into printer cartridges bound for Chicago in 2010. |
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| Quake42 Warrior Princess
Great Old One Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Total posts: 5310 Location: Over Silbury Hill, through the Solar field Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 30-04-2013 12:43 Post subject: |
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More (thankfully) incompetent terrorists
| Quote: | Six plead guilty to plotting attack on EDL rally
Six would-be terrorists have pleaded guilty to plotting an attack on a far-right English Defence League demonstration with a home-made bomb, guns, knives and a machete.
The men, all from the West Midlands, had planned to target EDL supporters who were holding a rally in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, on 30 June last year. Police believe the mission was only abandoned when the group turned up after the EDL demonstration had finished.
Omar Khan, 28, Mohammed Saud, 22, Jewel Uddin, 27, Zohaib Ahmed, 22, and Anzal Hussain, 24, pleaded guilty at Woolwich crown court to engaging in preparation for acts of terrorism. A sixth man, Mohammed Hasseen, 23, pleaded guilty to the same offence and possessing a document likely to be of use to a person preparing or committing an act of terrorism.
All the defendants, except Hasseen, had travelled in two cars from Birmingham to Dewsbury on the afternoon of 30 June with an arsenal of weapons hidden in holdalls in the boot of one of the cars.
They also had 10 A4 printouts of a document addressed to David Cameron and the Queen that set out in chilling terms their determination to take revenge on the "enemies of Allah" – the "English Drunkards League".
It stated: "We love death more than you love life … What we did today was a direct retaliation of your insulting of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon Him) & also in retaliation of your crusade against Islam/Muslims on a global scale. It is of the greatest honour for us to do what we did."
The men refused to answer questions during police interviews and detectives say they cannot rule out the possibility they had been planning a suicide attack.
The men, who sat impassively together, changed their pleas and admitted their involvement via videolink. They will be sentenced on 6 June.
Judge Nicholas Hilliard QC, the recorder of Greenwich, told the men: "This will attract significant custody. There is no doubt about that."
Marcus Beale, the assistant chief constable of West Midlands police, with responsibility for its counter-terrorism unit, said the six were extremely dangerous and could have maimed, killed and brought misery which would "have transmitted fear and anxieties to our communities".
He said: "I am really pleased these six have pleaded guilty. They are clearly a radicalised group with extremely dangerous intent. Their intent was to recklessly cause mayhem and probably mass injuries."
The EDL has held a number of virulently anti-Muslim demonstrations in towns and cities across the country since it was formed in 2009. The rally in Dewsbury had been due to finish at 3pm or 4pm but was cut short because the group's leader, Stephen Lennon, did not speak.
When the would-be attackers arrived at 4pm, the EDL supporters – numbering between 400 and 700, according to the police – had already left. The men drove around the town to the sites where the demonstration had been held and then, after stopping at a chip shop and mosque, made their way back to Birmingham.
The aborted plot may never have been discovered had it not been for a traffic officer who decided to carry out a routine stop on one of the cars – driven by the suspected bomb-maker Khan – as it headed back to Birmingham along the M1 motorway.
The gang had given the wrong registration number when they purchased car insurance over the phone earlier that day.
The traffic officer seized the car and took Khan and his passenger, Uddin, to Meadow Hall train station so they could get back to Birmingham. Meanwhile the car was taken to a pound where it was locked up for the weekend. On Monday morning the staff discovered the arsenal of weapons and a full-scale manhunt involving hundreds of counter-terrorism officers swung into action. Within 48 hours all six men had been arrested.
Detectives say there is no evidence linking the group to Pakistan or al-Qaida – although Hasseen had researched bomb-making from Inspire magazine, a self-help guide produced by al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula which is pushed on internet forums to would-be terrorists.
One of the group, Uddin, was under "low-level" surveillance by the security services because of a suspected connection to a separate plot to carry out an attack rivalling the 7 July 2005 bombings – although police insist there was not enough evidence against him to warrant his arrest in relation to that case. Another, Hussain, was the brother of one of those convicted in the same plot. A third, Ahmed, had served a prison sentence after being convicted of possession of terrorist material from the internet.
However, counter-terrorism detectives say the group was not on their radar and that they knew nothing about the plot as the men set off for Dewsbury.
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Hmmm, attacking the EDL with bombs and machetes is a tad ott. |
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| Quake42 Warrior Princess
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| Quote: | Shots fired during London anti-terror operations
One man held in west London and two more arrested near Tower of London after police fire at vehicle
Special ammunition designed to breach doors or burst tyres was fired at a car during a series of anti-terror raids across the capital.
Police fired Hatton rounds - large shotgun ammunition used to stop vehicles - at a car on Mansell Street, close to the Tower of London, on Monday night.
Two men, both aged 25, were arrested in the street, while a 28-year-old man was arrested in Westbourne Grove, west London, and a 29-year-old was detained in Peckham Street, south-east London.
All the men have been arrested on the suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, Scotland Yard said, and are being quizzed at a south London police station.
As six addresses across London continue to be searched by counter-terror officers, further reports from people who witnesses the arrests emerged.
Ramin Massodi a worker at a Persian restaurant in Westbourne Grove, said the man arrested there had been swooped on by specialist officers in several cars who pushed him up against the glass of the restaurant.
"I heard shouting then I looked outside and saw four cars … and they grabbed him," he said.
Neighbour George Paul, who lived across the street from the restaurant, said he was sitting in his flat when he head the commotion outside.
"I poked my head out the window - it was dark - but I could clearly see at least three cars," he said.
"They were stopping traffic in all directions. There were two policemen on top of a guy, pinning him down and from what I may have heard, the assailant said in maybe a foreign accent, 'please don't break my arm'."
Paul said officers then cuffed the man and pressed him against the restaurant wall.
He said he thought about coming out to investigate further but decided against it because of how serious the situation seemed.
Paul, who has lived in the area for 30 years, said he had never seen anything like it before.
"This is one of the best policed areas, there's two policemen walking around every 15 minutes," he said.
"It's a very safe area so this is a surprise, it's a shock basically."
The street where the man was arrested in Notting Hill is lined with restaurants and boutiques.
A restaurant owner, who did not want to be named, said the incident closed down most of the street and cost him a significant amount of business.
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