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laphip Grey Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Total posts: 11 Location: London Gender: Female |
Posted: 25-07-2004 04:59 Post subject: Giant Dragonfly |
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Have there been many giant dragonfly sightings?
When I was around nine years old me and my two sisters watched a dragonfly with a body about half a metre long circle around our backyard just above the height of our bungalow (in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada). When we told our mom about it, she just said it must've been a toy plane shaped like a dragonfly. It looked quite naturally an insect to me, and it made no sound. Would a dragonfly of that size make or not make noise in flight? Can toy remote controlled planes be soundless? |
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nickedoff12 Paper Faces On Parade Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Total posts: 146 Location: Maine Gender: Male |
Posted: 25-07-2004 13:33 Post subject: I Remember a Moth |
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My father used to tell us stories about a huge moth that he saw frequently while camping.
The moth was nearly as big as his hand, he says, and scared the hell out of him when he first found it.
I've skimmed through google and found a picture of an Atlas Moth, of which, even though we have no such species in my parts, a few sightings have been reported.
I've also found a website with a few large insects on it:
Giants of the Insect World |
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caroleaswas Diva Mentalis Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Total posts: 4607 Age: 8 Gender: Female |
Posted: 25-07-2004 16:40 Post subject: |
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This site reckons the largest dragonfly existing today is around 7.5" wingspan.
Things sometimes seem bigger to kids, laphip, and you saw it above your bungalow. Are you sure you didn't get your perspectives mixed up?
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caroleaswas Diva Mentalis Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Total posts: 4607 Age: 8 Gender: Female |
Posted: 25-07-2004 16:53 Post subject: |
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Re Nickedoff's story of a huge moth, please refer to a previous thread, here.
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oll_lewis mi mou tous kiklous taratte sea below Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Total posts: 3071 Location: Woolfardisworthy Age: 32 Gender: Male |
Posted: 25-07-2004 20:06 Post subject: |
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I have seen a large dragonflys before, I live near a large country park with 2 huge lakes and extensive reed beds so if there were an ideal place for dragonfly and damselfly spotting, thats it (you can tell the difference between the 2 by observing how it holds its wings when resting, if it can flod its wings back along its body it's a damsel).
The largest dragonfly I observed was in Cosmeston Lakes Country park had a wingspan of at least 1/2 a meter skimming over the surface of the lake about 3 metres from the bank. It was brownish yellow in colour and apart from its size quite unremakable. I have also seen a lot of large damselflys, which are now a regular sighting every time we have a hot summer. Was it a paticully long hot summer when you saw your large dragonfly, Laphip? |
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evilsprout Demicabbage of darkness Joined: 27 Jul 2001 Total posts: 1325 Location: Sheffield Age: 33 Gender: Male |
Posted: 25-07-2004 20:18 Post subject: |
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| The biggest one I've seen must have had a body-length of about 9 or 10 inches. But I was a kid at the time so... |
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| CallMeKenneth Hard of thinking Yeti Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 25-07-2004 21:00 Post subject: |
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The largest dragonfly in the UK is the Emperor, with a wingspan of up to 150mm, and a body length of up to 84mm. Formerly found only in the south of the country, they have spread northwards (global warming?), and are a regular sight on Teesside, where I live.
I work as a Nature Reserve warden, and in my experience, most people routinely over-estimate the size of large insects. I frequently meet people on my site who tell me they have just seen a dragonfly with a wingspan of at least 8-9 inches, and are surprised when I tell them that the largest ones found here are approx. half that size. Children in particular will give wildly exaggerated estimates of size, so this may explain the reports of giant dragonflies.
Unless of course, Meganeura, with a 600mm+ wingspan, has survived from the Carboniferous Period... |
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evilsprout Demicabbage of darkness Joined: 27 Jul 2001 Total posts: 1325 Location: Sheffield Age: 33 Gender: Male |
Posted: 25-07-2004 21:18 Post subject: |
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I'm sure I've seen ones longer than that...! Mind you I was about 12 at the time, and a bit scared of flying insects, so that might explain my exageration.
But still, my middle finger's roughly 84m... I'm sure it was way longer than that. |
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oll_lewis mi mou tous kiklous taratte sea below Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Total posts: 3071 Location: Woolfardisworthy Age: 32 Gender: Male |
Posted: 25-07-2004 21:49 Post subject: |
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| CallMeKenneth wrote: |
The largest dragonfly in the UK is the Emperor, with a wingspan of up to 150mm, and a body length of up to 84mm. Formerly found only in the south of the country, they have spread northwards (global warming?), and are a regular sight on Teesside, where I live.
I work as a Nature Reserve warden, and in my experience, most people routinely over-estimate the size of large insects. I frequently meet people on my site who tell me they have just seen a dragonfly with a wingspan of at least 8-9 inches, and are surprised when I tell them that the largest ones found here are approx. half that size. Children in particular will give wildly exaggerated estimates of size, so this may explain the reports of giant dragonflies.
Unless of course, Meganeura, with a 600mm+ wingspan, has survived from the Carboniferous Period... |
Thats more or less what my professer of entimology at uni said (professor ian hodgekinson) but he was interested because as we actully gauge sises of insects quite well from feild trips and stuff he knew I was unlikely to be over estimatingthe size. It was a monster. |
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Cavynaut Skoumed! Usually tired. Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Total posts: 1934 Location: Crouch Wailing. UK. Age: 56 Gender: Male |
Posted: 28-07-2004 20:43 Post subject: |
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My wife and two of my daughters have just seen a dragonfly which they say was about six inches long! What's even more surprising is that we live in the inner city, and there ain't many reedbeds around here!
There again, I saw a squirrel run across a road in the centre of Hull yesterday teatime.  |
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Ronson8 Things can only get better. Great Old One Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Total posts: 5843 Location: MK Gender: Male |
Posted: 28-07-2004 21:22 Post subject: |
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| Saw what I took to be some kind of dragonfly in our garden today, it was about six centimetres long and was black with black wings, any ideas what it might have been? |
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laphip Grey Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Total posts: 11 Location: London Gender: Female |
Posted: 29-07-2004 02:36 Post subject: |
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I can see it as entirely possible my perspective was skewed, but its size was bafflingly significant compared to regular dragonflies.
I can't recall if the summer was in a hot swing, but it was July 25 (my sister's birthday). |
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Cavynaut Skoumed! Usually tired. Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Total posts: 1934 Location: Crouch Wailing. UK. Age: 56 Gender: Male |
Posted: 30-07-2004 00:05 Post subject: |
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| Lord_Flashheart wrote: |
The largest dragonfly I observed was in Cosmeston Lakes Country park had a wingspan of at least 1/2 a meter skimming over the surface of the lake about 3 metres from the bank. It was brownish yellow in colour and apart from its size quite unremakable. |
The nymph must've been a hell of a size. |
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Posted: 31-07-2004 14:02 Post subject: |
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| Cavynaut wrote: |
The nymph must've been a hell of a size. | no larger than a meganeura's I'm sure! |
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| CallMeKenneth Hard of thinking Yeti Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 31-07-2004 18:20 Post subject: |
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| Pete Younger wrote: |
Saw what I took to be some kind of dragonfly in our garden today, it was about six centimetres long and was black with black wings, any ideas what it might have been? |
Sounds like a Beautiful Demoiselle, a type of damselfly.
The British Dragonfly Society, at http://www.dragonflysoc.org.uk/frameset.htm?home&home
has plenty of info & pictures |
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