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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 16:12    Post subject: The Queens Secret Underground Road System Reply with quote

Friends and I were talking about the royal family attending football matches at Wembly Statium. Not only did we decide it was unfair that the polo loving Windsors get the best seats in the house, but that also they are never seen leaving or entering certain venues in their big, posh cars.

My uncle insists that Wembly Stadium has an underground road leading to it which is used by the Queen and other Royal persons.

It's not everyday that you see Her Majesty out in the car, but I'm sure I see her on SevenSisters Road in N. London once. I suppose that even if she did have underground access roads they would only be for certain journies.

Do the royals have secret, secure, underground road ways or am I just easily lead?
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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 16:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a legend that Holyrood palace is linked to Edinburgh castle by an underground passage that goes under the royal mile. No one has ever found it but there is a story of a piper who did find it and played his pipes so people could hear him up above on the royal mile. He never came back and his piping can still be heard......
mwah hah ah
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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 16:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is also a tunnel that leads from the Science Museum in South Kensington to Hyde Park. Apparently, Churchill's bunker during the war was under the museum. I'm not sure why the tunnel lead to Hyde Park. The people I know who went down there said that when you reach a certain point, under Hyde Park, there is a MoD sign that warns you that you may be shot if you go past the sign. I'm not sure about the shooting, but I'm pretty certain that there is a tunnel as I used to work in the Science Museum gift shop and I met a few people who'd been down there. Our stockroom was also part of Churchill's underground bunker.
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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 16:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that when the Victoria Line was built in the 1960's it was routed directly under Buckingham Palace to provide the Queen with an emergency escape route.
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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 16:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Victoria line definatly runs under my office; I feel the rumbles every few minutes. My office is close to Buckingham Palace.
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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

London has a massive number of underground complexes and
tunnels, many of them intended as the seat of Government in the
event of a nuclear war. Officially they did not exist but the whistle
was blown in the nineteen eighties when the radical journalist
Duncan Campbell found a way into the labyrinth and left a small
Christmas tree as an offering to the moles who had shown him the
way.

The adventure was recounted in the New Statesman magazine and
a map of the facilities was offered as a special offer to raise money
for a charity.

Many other towns and cities had their underground bunkers in those
jolly days of Mutual Assured Destruction. The Subterranea Britannia
websites have a fullish listing for those with anorak tendencies. Some
can be visited by appointment. I gather that Manchester has a massive
hospital complex deep underground. There are pictures online somewhere.
roll eyes (sarcastic)
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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 21:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

The story about the Victoria Line tube being the Queen's 'rat run', reminds me of a time in the late 1960's or early 1970's, when all the trees each side of the Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens were cut down.

It was claimed at the time, that this was due to them being infected with Dutch Elm Disease, but they were still healthy when they were chopped.

Later, it was suggested that in "times of trouble", Queenie & "key" members of government could be airlifted out of the center of town, just ahead of a nuclear strike!!!
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PostPosted: 03-12-2001 21:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

A cold war relic on similar lines is the little known fact that the UK has a national fuel grid, supplying the nations airbases.
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PostPosted: 04-12-2001 12:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all, I was interested in the underground facilities in London from way back and have found a book which has lots of interesting background to the underground construction projects ( not just for the tube but sewers, foot tunnels, air conditioning etc ) and has lots of illustrations.

The book is still in print and I have seen it on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0719552885/qid=1007463521/sr=1-1/ref=sr_sp_re/202-0060354-3491861

I have no connection with the book or the website btw, just enjoyed it as an interesting reference work.

I'll have a look this weekend to see if there are any references to the things discussed here and will post the answers here.

thanks

Uncle Bulgaria
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PostPosted: 04-12-2001 12:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just remembered another Royal Escape Route story although this was fiction (but who knows:) ). I can't remember the title or author as I read it years ago, and anyway this snippet is all that I remember.

In this story terrorists break into Buck House and take the Queen Hostage. One of the terrorists goes into the royal bathroom, he's looking around and sees a bathroom cabinet. He wonders what the Queen keeps in it so he has a look and inside theres this little button. He pushes the button and the floor of the bathroom opens up and he falls down a slide into an underground chamber and into the hands of the guardsmen, who are waithing for the queen to escape by this route.
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PostPosted: 09-12-2001 08:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't there a letter in FT quite a while ago from someone claiming that either himself or a relative had been exploring some tunnels under Manchester, which were extensive, almost like underground streets, when he was scared off by a man in a strange military uniform?

Sounded quite spooky to read, but I'm not so sure.

Fascinating subject this, and I'd love to find out more. Being the home of the navy, I bet there are all sorts of things under Portsmouth, and especially Portsdown Hill, where alongside Palmerston's forts there are many more recent MOD buildings. Anbody got any links or info? Thanks James, for Subterranea Britannia - it had one underground WWII radar installation not too far from where I grew up, which I can remember from my youth as a load of derelict old bunkers that I was always too scared to explore!
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PostPosted: 09-12-2001 13:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I worked in Stockport some years back, I used to see
parties of schoolkids being escorted into a door in the hillside
opposite the old Co-op. I had assumed it was the Pied Piper
until I learned of the shelters. Never saw them come out though.

Thanks for the reminder of the Disused Stations site, one of the
creepiest sites on the web for me. Just looking at the pictures
makes me feel very uneasy. Something very Freudian in being
swallowed by Mother Earth. I have vivid memories of the
terror the Mersey Tunnel inspired on car journies as a kid. The
emergence into daylight was always a relief! Surprised
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PostPosted: 10-12-2001 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are extensive Stone mines at Box, near Bath, (from which, erm, Bath Stone is, erm again, mined). I used to be part of a Caving club which surveyed these, and there are a few areas where they have been integrated with the MOD complex on the surface - these bits are barbed-wired off, and guarded by cameras, and I have memories of seeing old stone mines turning into pristine white-tiled corridors, but I think my mind may be playing tricks on me here. Local lore has it that if you take any pictures of these sensitive areas, some nice chaps from the MOD will be waiting for you and your film when you emerge from the Mines.

I also recently found out that my parents house has a disused railway tunnel underneath it, blocked off at both ends. It's a strangely fascinating subject.

Cheers

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PostPosted: 11-12-2001 01:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

This subject intrigues me. I can imagine "mole people" living their lives underground in order to keep secret machines running below the cities of England. I read the letter in FT about the tunnels in Manchester (underneath a theatre?)... the guy just went for a walk through this closed off area of the building and ended up down in this complex. It reminds me very much of the workers' city in Metropolis.

Remember this though: If world leaders are to be taken to an underground base (and we know that such bunkers exist) in a disaster, then it will need to be fully staffed when they arrive. Also, they'd need to be inhabitable for a while. Would it be any surprise if very large complexes with populations of people existed?

Also, remember that you only legally own a few feet below the foundations of your house. Anything could be going on down there...

And on the tube station front - I suppose there's a chance that you can find your way down onto some of the abandoned platforms through some ingenuity... maybe the realms of London's subterranean populations and the sewer pigs?
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PostPosted: 11-12-2001 02:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things to say.

A friend of mine was studying at Imperial College when as part of the course they were taken out to Hyde Park to practise with ground radar and magnetometer equipment. They were told to survey - from the surface - the extent of the Hyde Park underground car park and then to confirm their readings in the car park itself. The student were very supprised to find out that the readings indicated the car park was about 3 times bigger than it appeared it should be. Mind you Brian was a joker so I don't know how true it is.

Government sponsored buildings in London are often very much deeper than is supposed. There have been rumours for years about a complete regimental barracks under Whitehall and I was told once there was a deep level tunnel running from the Post Office Tower to Elephant and Castle. I do know that the British Museum had at least 1 basement 60 ft down with a sealed door that may have lead deeper.
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