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tang-malow
PostPosted: 24-01-2002 13:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did he happen to mention anything about where they lived or stuff like that?

i know for a fact they used to live in homes they built under the ground ive been in a few pictish villages and to be honest i would hope they where short and not tall as the corridors dont have roofs on them now but when they did u would need to crawl on all fours to get anywhere. thats another reason why i believe they where short
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PostPosted: 24-01-2002 13:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 24-01-2002 13:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re shortness/tallness: people were all a lot shorter in those days, never seen it my self so i wouldnt be saying for sure. Maybe it was a wendyhouse of the gods:)
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PostPosted: 25-01-2002 03:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't I read somewhere that the Roman legionary averaged 5'6"?
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PostPosted: 25-01-2002 12:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Didn't I read somewhere that the Roman legionary averaged 5'6"?


I wrote it on a toilet wall at a service station near carlisle, knew it would come in handy one day!
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PostPosted: 25-01-2002 18:49    Post subject: Looking for pic's of Zana's kids Reply with quote

A month or two ago I had a library book on mysterious creatures. In it it had a section devoted to who today is called "Zana the ape woman" -- she was an Almas. On one page there was a large color photograph of a scientist holding the skull of a person who, the locals said, was Zana's child or grandchild. The scientist was Caucasoid with short or balding hair. The skull had a large brow ridge, a sloping forehead and a large jaw bone. Does anyone know where I can find this photograph on the web?
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PostPosted: 18-10-2002 05:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another very detailed Almas report here: http://home.twcny.rr.com/bigfootsasquatch/almas.html
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PostPosted: 19-11-2002 14:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lake Mungo shows some very interesting fossils? bones of "Mungo Man" from 20 to 30 thousand years ago,that show features of a more primative man. Rex Gilroy in Mysterious Australia shows evidence of ancient huge stone tools and explores stories of aboriginal verbal stories of huge savage beast men that inhabited Melville Island.
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PostPosted: 09-04-2005 19:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another insteresting article here:

http://alamas.ru/eng/publicat/Burtsev.htm

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Abkhazia: The story of Zana is that of a wild woman, caught and habituated by people in Abkhazia at the end of the 19th century. She not only lived with people but was the mother of children by human fathers. I had also read that information in Boris Porshnev's book. By that time I was not only acquainted with Porshnev but also helped him in his research. The story of Zana is written up in detail in the above mentioned book by Bayanov. I only want here to emphasize three points.

First, the story of Zana is not simply a fascinating tale about a surprising contact of people with a wild man-like creature. This story is one of a number of episodes remarkable from the point of view of the theory of parallel existence of Homo sapiens and non-sapient hominids, and their crossbreeding throughout the course of history. There are other cases of probable crossbreeding of this kind as, for example, in the Sungir excavation, of twenty-three thousand year antiquity, in central Russia, where in a sapiense burial were found bones with Neandertal features. The Zana case could shed more light on this problem. The point is we have the skull of Zana’s son. Besides, Zana’s descendants live in Abkhazia and DNA analyses of their blood could be of much help in verifying the Zana story. During one of my trips to Abkhazia, I obtained blood for analysis from the daughter of Zana's son - that is a granddaughter of Zana. Unfortunately the result of that analysis is unknown to me because of the ethnic war and conflict that engulfed Abkhazia, which is still not over and prevents our further research in that area.

Second, I dug out an unusual burial of a female near the grave of Zana's son Khwit. The rubber footwear of the buried female had the date of its make - 1880. Khwit was born, according to his documents, in 1886. But considering the fact that personal documents began to be issued in Abkhazia only in the 1930s, on the basis of oral statements, we can suppose that Khwit was born earlier. On the other hand, footwear could have been kept for many years after it was made - such a custom exists in those parts even today. The study of the female's skull showed its Negroid (African) features, whereas Khwit, according to anthropologists, looked very much Australoid. I learned that some Africans lived in Abkhazia in the 19th century, and even found several of their descendants. But all those who had seen Zana insisted that she was not African - her body was covered with hair and she remained wild, despite all attempts to civilize her.

I personally restored the female's skull at the laboratory of plastic reconstruction, headed after Mikhail Gerasimov's death, by anthropologist Galina Lebedeva. She consulted me during the restoration and highly appraised the quality of my work. She also made a drawing of the woman's face, based on her skull, and that portrait clearly shows African features. At the same laboratory, Khwit's skull was examined for the absence or presence of a pathological condition, called acromegalia - and it was found that no pathology was present. Modern methods allow us to determine by analysis of bones whether these two skulls belong to relatives. If yes, then the buried female was the mother of Khwit, i. e. Zana. If not, then the female is clearly not Zana. At present I believe the second version. But for 100% certainty it is necessary to undertake a corresponding analysis. Unfortunately, we have no funds for that and have not been able so far to interest those who have.

Third, the process of excavation was connected with some mysterious phenomena: unexpected strong rain with storm when finishing the excavation; my personal hard illness with unknown diagnosis followed in two-three days after; the worsening of the health of a person with ESP-ability, who visited later the place of the burial, and so on. (That woman was vomiting when being close to Khwit’s grave, though she did not know whose was the grave)
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PostPosted: 11-04-2005 21:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

How official is all this to go rooting round in graves?
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PostPosted: 14-04-2005 01:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile
With semi-human graves, perhaps it's only semi-official?


a glimpse into the terrifying world of human-ape fusion!
http://www.fatemag.com/2005_04art1.html

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PostPosted: 14-04-2005 16:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more I read about Zana the more I think the story has been embolished over the years. We are are probably talking about a deformed homo sapien and the local population got confused.
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PostPosted: 18-04-2005 23:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some reports of Zana (and other almas) is that she was tall. Neanderthal & other primitive people were not tall (judging by their skeletons). They also never had Negroid features (again judging by their skeletons). Neanderthals were stockily built so may have been strong. But they were not built for speed; so how come some almas reports have them out running horses? I read recently (lost the link) that she was not captured local to the village where she stayed.
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PostPosted: 14-04-2006 18:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to WIKI, Zana is being linked in as a relict hominid.

This is the artilcle as it exists now:
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Relict hominids are ancient forms of humans that are believed still to exist in isolated parts of the world. The study of relict hominids is a form of cryptozoology.

Many cultures share similar legends of ape-like beings: the yeti, the yowie, Bigfoot and so forth. Some researchers now believe these are relict hominids.

Relict hominids across the world

Flores Island, Indonesia: Ebu Gogo
Archaeologists recently made an exciting discovery on Flores Island, Indonesia. They unearthed the bones of a skeleton that was first thought to be a child. Closer analysis revealed it was in fact the skeleton of an adult hominid, that stood about one metre tall with long arms and a skull the size of a large grapefruit. This hominid, given the classification Homo floresiensis and nicknamed the Hobbit, was not a one-off mutant. Archaeologists have since discovered the remains of at least six more individuals from the same species.

Interestingly, the people of Flores Island have many detailed legends about little people that they call Ebu Gogo. They are described as being one metre tall, hairy, and prone to murmuring to each other in some form of language. The last evidence of these little people dates back to a volcanic eruption 12,000 years ago. But the myths say they were still alive as recently as 100 years ago. Some researchers have speculated Homo floriensis might still exist, somewhere deep in the unexplored Indonesian jungle.

Abkhazia: Zana
In the 1880s a strange woman was captured in the western Caucausus region of Abkhazia. Her features were described as both mongoloid and negroid extraction. She was covered from head to foot with reddish-black hair, and was powerfully strong: able to outrun horses and swim in fast-flowing rivers. She could splay her toes widely and move apart her big toes. Villagers called her Zana or Zanya and kept her in a strong enclosure. At first she was like a wild beast but gradually became tamer.

Zana never learnt to speak but she responded to her name and carried out commands given by her master. She could never bear warm temperatures and slept outside in a hole through every season. Zana was impregnated by one or more of the village men and gave birth several times. The first newborns died from exposure when she washed them in cold water. Four later infants survived after villagers took them away from her, and these two sons and daughters grew up to adulthood.

Zana's remains have not yet been found, but the skull of her son Kwit, who died in 1954, was exhumed for analysis in the 1970s. It was found by scientists to have a striking combination of ancient and modern features. Zana's human descendants are scattered across Abkhazia and more research needs to be done on her origins. She has been linked to a relict hominid, an ancestor of modern humans, to a wild-woman from a nomadic tribe, and so on. But if she was a mystery primate who mated successfully with modern humans, then her genetic makeup was close to modern humans.
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PostPosted: 12-01-2007 00:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to dredge this ol' thread up --
but is this really the skull of Zana?!?

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/khwit-dna/

If they're doing DNA analysis, surely the findings can put
the existence/legend of Almasty to bed once and for all.

If true, how is this not big news?

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