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PostPosted: 20-05-2012 13:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

theyithian wrote:
That compassionate leave really was very compassionate: three and a half years of freedom before the man died.

If he was innocent, he should have had his sentence quashed: if he was guilty he should have died in jail.


People live longer than expected. A friend of mine was given 6 months to live but she lasted 18 months and even at the end was able to get out and socialise. Then just died suddenly.

On balance I reckon he was innocent.


Edit to fix typo.


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PostPosted: 20-05-2012 17:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty inhumane to ask a cancer patient "Why aren't you dead yet?" for three years, albeit one on a shaky conviction for murder.
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PostPosted: 20-05-2012 22:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting out of prison and being back surrounded by his family and friends, probably did wonders for his health. Even if he was still dying and spending most of his time in a hospital bed.
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PostPosted: 08-12-2012 08:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Salmond 'begged' leading world figures to support Lockerbie decision
Alex Salmond personally “begged” leading world figures to publicly support his government’s decision to free the Lockerbie bomber, the man responsible for Britain’s biggest ever mass murder.
By Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor
7:59PM GMT 07 Dec 2012

After Abdelbaset Al Megrahi was freed on what Mr Salmond said were compassionate grounds in August 2009, both Nelson Mandela and Archbishop Desmond Tutu issued statements backing the decision.

But, in a highly embarrassing development for Scotland’s First Minister previously confidential papers show that far from being spontaneous these messages were solicited by Mr Salmond.
Following world condemnation of the decision, the First Minister’s office sent a round-robin letter to influential figures suggesting it would be “very helpful” for them to make a “public statement”.

Documents disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act show that his spin doctors were less than satisfied with Archbishop Tutu’s contribution, complaining that it was “not the best quote”.
Mary Robinson, the former Irish President, refused the First Minster’s invitation. It has previously been disclosed that Donald Trump, the US tycoon, also turned down his advances.

The Scottish Government last night argued Mr Salmond was “perfectly entitled” to drum up support for the release of Britain's worst mass murderer.

However, opposition parties described the lobbying operation as a “cynical exercise” and an “insult” to the families of the bomber’s 270 victims.

Megrahi, who was terminally ill, was supposed to die within three months but returned to Libya to a hero’s welcome before living a further two years and nine months. He eventually passed away in May this year.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/9730915/Alex-Salmond-begged-leading-world-figures-to-support-Lockerbie-decision.html
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PostPosted: 21-12-2012 08:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lockerbie bombing: Libyan government set to release files

The new Libyan government in Tripoli is prepared to open all files relating to the Lockerbie bombing, the country's ambassador to the UK has confirmed.
However, Mahmud Nacua said it would be at least another year before Libya was in a position to release whatever information it holds.

The move comes on the 24th anniversary of the of bombing of Pan Am flight 103 over Scotland, which killed 270 people.
Bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi died this year after being released in 2009.
Megrahi, a Libyan agent, was released by the Scottish government on compassionate grounds, suffering from terminal prostate cancer.
He remains the only person ever convicted of the bombing, but Scottish police hope to pursue other suspects in Libya following the country's revolution and downfall of Colonel Gaddafi in 2011.

Scotland's top prosecutor recently wrote to the new Libyan prime minister for help and the UK government has said it was pressing Tripoli "for swift progress and co-operation" on the Lockerbie case.

Mr Nacua told the BBC no formal agreement had yet been reached, but that Libya would open the files it holds on the case.
He said that would only come when his government had fully established security and stability - a process he believes will take at least a year.

In April of this year, Scotland's Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland travelled to Tripoli with the director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, requesting co-operation after the fall of Gaddafi.

This was followed in May by a meeting with Libya's interim prime minister in London to discuss further inquires into the bombing.
At the time, a Crown Office spokesman said: "The prime minister asked for clarification on a number of issues relating to the conduct of the proposed investigation in Libya and the lord advocate has undertaken to provide this.
"The prime minister made it clear that he recognised the seriousness of this crime and following the clarification he would take this forward as a priority."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-20806873
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PostPosted: 21-12-2012 10:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to believe it was 24 years ago - but this will be interesting to see.
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PostPosted: 21-12-2013 08:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lockerbie bombing: Megrahi relatives want to appeal

The family of Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Al-Megrahi has told the BBC they want to appeal against his conviction.
Megrahi died at his home in Tripoli in May last year from terminal cancer. He had always protested his innocence.
His brother Abdel-Hakim Al-Megrahi said the family "wanted the truth to be revealed".
He also said he was hopeful the Libyan government would help to fund the appeal.

In an interview with the BBC's Libya correspondent Rana Jawad, he said: "Yes, we want to appeal and we wish for the truth to be revealed and this is not just for our own benefit but also for the benefit of the families of the victims and for public opinion.
"We need to know who committed this horrible crime. But, as you know, we as a family cannot afford to pay for the appeals process.
"God-willing, the Libyan government will do this, but it has to be launched by the family first. As a family, we want to appeal; we want the Lockerbie files to reopen to know who is responsible."

He said the family were sure the Libyan government would held to fund the appeal because clearing his brother of committing the atrocity would also be "an acquittal for all Libyans and Libya".
"At the moment, it is perhaps difficult for the Libyan government to help us," he added. "But we hope, and we are very optimistic, that when the government stabilises it will help us because the Lockerbie problem is not an individual or family issue, but rather a Libya problem."
"My brother Abdelbaset could not have committed this heinous crime. He could never hurt any single person, let alone 271 innocent victims".

Abdel-Hakim Al-Megrahi insisted his brother had not been a Libyan intelligence officer, and claimed he had instead been a graduate in aviation engineering who had been employed by Libyan Airlines.
He added: "However, if he was used [as a scapegoat] for this problem [Lockerbie] - it's possible that he was used because the Gaddafi regime used to use any Libyan. In truth Libya was like a farm for Gaddafi and his sons and as Libyan nationals, we were like slaves - we couldn't say "no". We couldn't, this is the truth.
"But I assure you, and with reference to all the universities my brother studied in, be it in the US, Britain and Pakistan - he is a graduate of aviation engineering."

Megrahi was found guilty at a trial in 2001, and jailed for life. His co-accused Al-amin Khalifa Fimah was acquitted.
Dr Jim Swire, whose daughter Flora died when the Pan-Am flight 103 exploded over Lockerbie in 1988, said earlier this week that some families of those who died may seek a fresh appeal against Megrahi's conviction.
Mr Swire believes that Megrahi was wrongfully convicted of the atrocity.

But Scottish and US investigators stand by the evidence presented at his trial and are pursuing other potential suspects.
In a BBC interview on Monday, the Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland said "the conviction stands".
"We were ready to meet the arguments and challenges that Mr Megrahi and his lawyers were placing before the court," he said.
"If there's any further evidence, if anyone's got any concerns about it, they should make it known to the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission."

A spokesman for the Crown Office said:"This is a matter entirely for the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission and the High court of Justiciary. If the appeal is reinstated the Crown will defend the conviction."

The 25th anniversary of the bombing, which claimed 270 lives, will be marked in ceremonies in the US and the UK on Saturday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-25465662
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PostPosted: 21-12-2013 11:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Dr. Swire on this one. Not gone into it in enough depth, though, so I'll refrain form saying more.
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PostPosted: 22-12-2013 11:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best source, as so often, is Private Eye's report, originally by Paul Foot. Possibly the most important fact to remember is that the evidence was largely based on a shopkeeper, almost a decade after the event, who 'recognised' the suspect. Also he didn't recognise him originally. After rebriefing and being given expenses to the tune of $100k he then did.

All the original reports stated a Syrian cell, operating out of Hamburg was responsible; CIA agents in Europe were warned of this in advance. With the exceptions I've cited, it looks like a safe conviction!
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PostPosted: 11-03-2014 08:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

More evidence that the accusation of Libya was a piece of political misdirection:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10688067/Lockerbie-bombing-was-work-of-Iran-not-Libya-says-former-spy.html
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PostPosted: 16-03-2014 17:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks interesting, although it may be reiterating what's already been covered.

http://m.aljazeera.com/story/20142247550598601

Sorry but I can't work out how to create a hyperlink on an android tablet.
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PostPosted: 17-08-2014 08:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting though the alleged bomber's story is, let's not forget all the victims of the crash (better have a hankie handy...):

My lost son: Carol King Eckersley retraces Lockerbie victim's life
By Glenn Campbell, BBC Scotland news

A mother who only learned last year that her son was killed in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing has made an emotional visit to the town.
Carol King Eckersley travelled from America to see the spot where the child she gave up for adoption fell from the sky when his plane blew up.
She also laid flowers in the remembrance garden in the town's Dryfesdale cemetery for the first time.

She wept and said: "It shouldn't have happened. It just shouldn't have."
Mrs Eckersley's son, Kenneth Bissett, was one of the 270 people killed in what remains the deadliest terrorist attack in the UK.
It took almost 25 years for her to find out he was on Pan Am flight 103 when it exploded over southern Scotland.

As an unmarried mum in 1967, Carol King, as she was then, gave her newborn son for adoption and promised not to interfere in his life.
At the time she felt it would have been socially unacceptable for her to bring him up on her own
.

For decades, she longed to know what had become of her only baby and secretly hoped for a reunion.
It was only when she decided to search for him in April 2013, after her husband passed away, that she discovered the awful truth.
She typed his name into a computer and found his details on a memorial website.
"I just said 'my God, my baby's dead'," Mrs Eckersley told the BBC in December 2013.

Her heartbreaking story made headlines around the world and prompted some who had known Ken to share their memories and photographs with her.
"That's all I have," she said.
"I can never touch him. I can never hear his voice. The things that mothers always take for granted."

Ken was among 35 Syracuse University students who died on the flight home for Christmas after a term in London.
It was the 21st of December 1988 - two days after his 21st birthday


His birth mother has now travelled from her home in Portland, Oregon, to London, Edinburgh and Lockerbie to learn more about his life and his last moments.

In Portland, she met one of his best friends from high school, Mike Nicholas, who told her of Ken's love of jazz and Bruce Springsteen.
Mr Nicholas has named one of his children in Ken's memory.

In London, Mrs Eckersley met a photography lecturer, Ian Hessenberg, who remembers Ken as a "lovely cheeky boy" with a "very dry sense of humour".
She broke down in tears as he showed her where Ken had lived and studied in the last months of his life.
"I felt that he was right there with me and I was walking with him, not just where he had walked," she said.
"I felt him so strongly at one point, I thought I might pass out
."

In Edinburgh, she visited the castle to have her photograph taken on the same spot where her son posed for a picture shortly before his death.

The most emotional part of her journey was the time she spent in Lockerbie.
"I have knots in my stomach," she said as she travelled to the town by train.

Asked why she was putting herself through such a painful experience, she said: "He had a short life. I want to find out as much about those 21 years as I can.
"So how can I not do this?"

In Lockerbie, a local police officer, who was called out on the night of the disaster, became her guide.
Colin Dorrance took her to the major crash sites including Tundergarth, where the jumbo jet's nose cone came down and Rosebank Crescent where her son fell.
As she peered into the garden where Ken's body was found, a large aeroplane flew overhead.
Mrs Eckersley looked up at the sky and said: "It's so damned far to fall."


In the Lockerbie remembrance garden, laying flowers for the child she never got the chance to know, the enormity of the tragedy overwhelmed her.
"All the horror and the sorrow just kind of all came together," she said.
"At one point I thought 'I just want to wail and wail and not stop'. But I was afraid I would not be able to stop."

There are parallels with the story of Philomena Lee whose search for the son she lost to adoption was made into a film starring Dame Judi Dench.
Unlike Carol King Eckersley, Philomena had no choice in the adoption of her son.
But both women traced their boys on the internet only to discover they were dead.

"Even though the treatment of the person can be different, the emotions are the same," Mrs Eckersley said.
"The deep longing for your child is the same."

Ken Bissett's mum is almost certainly the last person in the world to learn of a loved one lost at Lockerbie.
More than 25 years after his death, she is still in the early stages of grieving for him.
"I gave Ken an adoption for what I thought were all the best reasons," Mrs Eckersley said.
"So he would have a home with a mother and a father who loved each other and could love him.

"But I didn't know what it was going to do to me and how it would affect me for the rest of my life," she said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28817552
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