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PostPosted: 09-11-2004 15:55    Post subject: Nope... Not Yet!! Reply with quote

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20041109/ts_nm/mideast_arafat_dc_130
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According to Yahoo (UK) News, he's having a brain haemorage (sp?) even as we speak....
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PostPosted: 09-11-2004 19:24    Post subject: I Reply with quote

always thought he looked like Ringo.
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PostPosted: 09-11-2004 19:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beeb say that he may have his life support switched off later tonight.

My Auntie has been to church to pray for Yasser Arafat (possibly to Saint Michael). I do wonder what the church's position on this is? Wink
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PostPosted: 09-11-2004 19:29    Post subject: well , why not? there is this... Reply with quote

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Some were surprised to see a group of orthodox Jews among the crowd, representatives of an organisation of Jews Against Zionism.


"We have come to... say our prayers to show our feelings of support and solidarity with Arafat's family and with the Palestinian people in general," said New York-based rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=123&art_id=qw1099814763819B253
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PostPosted: 11-11-2004 21:55    Post subject: arafat Reply with quote

Mossad seem to be the experts on bumping people off. so why not keep him alive while they engineer a sympathetic ear inside the PLO hioerachy
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PostPosted: 12-11-2004 14:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speculation Abounds Over `Mystery Blood Disorder'
By DON MELVIN Cox News Service
Published: Nov 12, 2004

PARIS - Did Yasser Arafat die of AIDS? Cancer? Poison?
Doctors gave no cause of death when the Palestinian leader died early Thursday. And in the absence of firm information, thousands of theorists have rushed to share their ideas on the Internet, the forum of modern speculation.

Just as nature abhors a vacuum, Internet theorists generally rush to fill an information void. One of the most popular theories is that he died of AIDS, because of the reportedly low platelet count in his blood and his weight loss.

Others on the Web and on the streets of Arab capitals think he was poisoned by the Israelis or by the Palestinian officials who wanted to replace him or by his wife, Suha.

The most authoritative information so far came Tuesday from Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath, who spoke after visiting doctors in the hospital where Arafat was being treated.

Shaath reported that Arafat's condition was caused by his age, 75, and exacerbated by the unsanitary conditions in which he lived for nearly three years in his half-ruined compound in Ramallah.

Arafat developed serious intestinal infections, and those in turn led to malnutrition, Shaath said. That might have been responsible for the low level of platelets, and that in turn created other problems, he said.

At the same time, he said, doctors aren't sure.

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom dismissed as scandalous and false allegations that Israel killed Arafat.

Shalom's comments were the first public statement by an Israeli official on rumors that have swirled through the Arab world since Arafat was hospitalized.

After Arafat died, Khaled Mashaal, top political leader of the militant group Hamas, accused Israel of poisoning Arafat. ``I hold Israel responsible for the crime of killing Abu Ammar,'' Mashaal told Al-Jazeera television, referring to Arafat by his nom de guerre. He offered no evidence. Islamic Jihad, another militant group, also claimed Israel killed Arafat.

Arafat's longtime personal physician called for an autopsy on the deceased Palestinian leader, saying he was baffled and angered by the French medical team's failure to diagnose Arafat's illness.

Ashraf al Kurdi, a friend and doctor to Arafat for 25 years, also said he was disappointed with the care French doctors gave Arafat.

The official statement announcing Arafat's death says the Palestinian leader succumbed to a ``mystery blood disorder.'' Earlier, doctors were said to have ruled out cancer, leukemia and poisoning as reasons for his illness, but al Kurdi said further study will be necessary to eliminate the possibility of poisoning.

Christian Estripeau, the medical director at the suburban Paris military hospital where Arafat died early Thursday, said French law barred him from responding to the charge that care was lacking.

``Each of his doctors is free to do as he wishes,'' Estripeau said. ``His medical record is sealed, and it will not be opened. I can't tell you a thing from it.''

In France, a patient or the next of kin must give permission for doctors to release information, and in his carefully worded statements, Estripeau has suggested that this permission was not given.

http://www.tampatrib.com/News/MGBEFECXF1E.html
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PostPosted: 14-11-2004 16:39    Post subject: What exactly killed Yasser Arafat? Reply with quote

What exactly killed Yasser Arafat? Conspiracy theories abound
13 Nov 2004

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=16320

We still do not know what exactly killed Yasser Arafat - it is still a mystery. Rumours abound that he had stomach cancer, he was poisoned, he had a blood disease, he had leukaemia, etc.

The Palestinian Foreign Ministry discounts the possibility of poisoning. But in Palestine itself, the rumour is strong. A Hamas official who was poisoned by enemy agents and survived the ordeal, thinks the Israelis poisoned Arafat.

We will probably never know what really killed him. The man was old, we all eventually die of something if we are lucky enough to reach old age.

The French doctors who treated Arafat during his last days are bound by privacy laws not to reveal what they thought (knew) was wrong with him.

During his last few weeks, news about Arafat was confusing and contradictory. His aides released varying stories as to his state of health. No diagnosis of what killed him exists, say his aides.

Was an autopsy carried out? Apparently not. So, we cannot rule anything out, say some doctors.

Israel has denied having anything to do with Arafat's death.

Just before he got to France, doctors thought that perhaps he had leukaemia. In France, doctors ruled that possibility out.

We know he eventually went into a coma, had a brain haemorrhage, lost the use of vital organs and died. But what brought all that on?

All Nabil Shaath (Palestinian Foreign Minister) could say was "We know what it is not."

Many doctors believe he had a form of cancer which consumes the platelets.

But the truth is - we don't know, and we will probably never know.
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PostPosted: 13-10-2005 14:38    Post subject: Arafat death probe 'inconclusive' Reply with quote

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Arafat death probe 'inconclusive'

A Palestinian ministerial inquiry into the death of former leader Yasser Arafat has proved inconclusive, said Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei.
Mr Qurei said that the inquiry found that French and Palestinian doctors could not identify the disease that killed Mr Arafat.

The former Palestinian leader's death was not caused by germs, cancer, poisoning or Aids, said Mr Qurei.

Yasser Arafat died on 11 November 2004 at a French military hospital.

But Mr Qurei added that file on Yasser Arafat's death would not be closed as "there could be medical developments in the future that could determine the cause of his death."

Conflicting reports

Speculation on the cause of Mr Arafat's death has continued in the media with many Palestinians believing that he was poisoned by Israel.

The Israeli government has repeatedly denied any involvement in his death.

The Palestinian leader's wife, Suha, refused to allow an autopsy.

A report published by the New York Times newspaper last month said that Mr Arafat's medical records showed that he died from stroke that stemmed from an unknown condition.

But a book by two Israeli journalists claimed that Mr Arafat's death could have been the result of an infection, Aids or poisoning.







Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/middle_east/4335408.stm

Published: 2005/10/12 17:05:11 GMT

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PostPosted: 04-07-2012 20:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yasser Arafat's body set to be exhumed over poisoning claims
An investigation by Al Jazeera found evidence that Yasser Arafat may have been poisoned with the radioactive element polonium.

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5:30PM BST 04 Jul 2012

Tests conducted on Arafat's personal effects found evidence he had been poisoned with the radioactive element polonium, the same substance used to kill London-based Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko in 2006.
The tests were conducted in Switzerland as part of an Al Jazeera investigation into Arafat's death.

His widow Suha is calling on the Palestinian Authority to cooperate with the investigation of the claims.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/9376639/Yasser-Arafats-body-set-to-be-exhumed-over-poisoning-claims.html
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PostPosted: 04-07-2012 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting...
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PostPosted: 29-08-2012 13:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yasser Arafat: France opens murder inquiry
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19402767

Swiss scientists claim they found traces of polonium-210 on Mr Arafat's belongings

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What is polonium-210?

French prosecutors have opened a murder inquiry into the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in 2004.

His family launched a case last month over claims that he was poisoned with polonium-210, a radioactive element.

Swiss scientists hired by a documentary crew say they found traces of polonium on some of Arafat's belongings.

The medical records of Arafat, who died at a military hospital near Paris in 2004, said he had a stroke resulting from a blood disorder.

However, many Palestinians continue to believe that Israel poisoned him. Israel has denied any involvement.

Others allege that he had Aids.

'Significant' polonium traces
Tuesday's decision by the court in the western Paris suburb of Nanterre followed the deposition of a civil suit in late July by Arafat's widow, Suha. The case does not name an alleged killer, but is brought against an unnamed perpetrator X.

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Arafat: The Swiss claims

"Unexplained, elevated" level of polonium-210 on Arafat's clothing, keffiyeh and toothbrush
Highest levels found on items with bodily fluids
Toothbrush measured 54 millibecquerels (mBq); underwear 180mBq compared with 6.7mBq from another man's specimen underwear
More than 60% of polonium was not from natural sources
Source: Al-Jazeera TV

French officials on Tuesday said prosecutors had agreed to begin a murder inquiry, but they have yet to appoint an investigating judge.

The BBC's Hugh Schofield in Paris says the French legal system is obliged to take the matter very seriously because of its diplomatic aspect, but the medical profession is generally sceptical about claims of radioactive poisoning.

A statement by Mrs Arafat's lawyers in Paris welcomed the decision by the court and said they would make no further comment to allow investigators to be able to pursue their inquiry with respect for secret information and without undue interference.

The Palestinian Authority also welcomed the move.

Senior official Saeb Erekat said President Mahmoud Abbas had officially requested the help of French President Francois Hollande in the investigation.

"We hope there will be a serious investigation to reveal the whole truth, in addition to an international investigation to identify all the parties involved in Arafat's martyrdom," he told the AFP news agency.

The inquiry stems from an al-Jazeera TV documentary broadcast early in July, which commissioned Lausanne University's Institute of Radiation Physics (IRA) to analyse Arafat's belongings, which his widow had kept.

The scientists told the channel that they had found "significant" traces of polonium-210 present in items including Arafat's trademark keffiyeh.

Twin inquiries
Mrs Arafat's lawyers have said she wants a French investigation to work alongside international inquiries being conducted by the Lausanne scientists.

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Polonium-210

Highly radioactive and toxic element
Present in foods in low doses
Small amounts created naturally in the body
Can be manufactured by bombarding certain isotopes with neutrons
Has industrial uses such as in anti-static devices
Very dangerous if significant dose ingested
External exposure not a risk, only if ingested
Present in tobacco
What is polonium-210?
Last week, the Swiss institute said it had received permission from Mrs Arafat and the Palestinian Authority to travel to Ramallah to analyse her late husband's remains for traces of polonium.

The Palestinian Authority said last month that it was willing to order the exhumation of Arafat's body from the stone-clad mausoleum in which it is buried in the presidential compound in Ramallah.

Arafat led the Palestine Liberation Organisation for 35 years and became the first president of the Palestinian Authority in 1996.

He fell violently ill in October 2004 and died two weeks later, at the age of 75, in a French military hospital.

French doctors bound by privacy rules did not release information about Arafat's condition.

In 2005, the New York Times obtained a copy of Arafat's medical records, which it said showed he died of a massive haemorrhagic stroke that resulted from a bleeding disorder caused by an unknown infection.

Experts who reviewed the records told the paper that it was highly unlikely that he had died of Aids or had been poisoned.
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Yasser Arafat and the Radioactive Cigarette

Last week, the body of the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was exhumed and tissue samples were taken to be tested for signs of poisoning by the radioactive element polonium-210. As I wrote then, rumors have circulated since Arafat died in 2004 that this was not a natural death, that he was murdered by hostile agents from Israel.

These suspicions were reinforced last summer when preliminary testing of the 75-year-old Arafat’s effects — his clothes, sheets, even his famed black-checked kaffiyeh showed trace evidence of the radioactive element. (Very trace because this is a hyperactive element with a half-life of a mere 138.4 days — a subject I covered in some detail in my post of last week).

But why would this particular element reinforce such suspicions? Because the most probable source of polonium-210 is from weapons-grade nuclear operations best known to be located in Israel, the United States (where polonium was essential to the World War II Manhattan Project) and Russia. This doesn’t mean that these countries stockpile the element; this makes no sense with such an unstable material. But nuclear facilities provide a place where a concentrated (lethal) amount can be acquired. Most experts believe that this was the source for the polonium-210 used to murder Alexander Litvinenko, a former Russian spy and a dissident, in 2006.

In Litvinenko’s case the radioactive material was slipped into some tea. If the tissue tests from Arafat’s body confirm radiation poisoning, then the supposition would be that deliberately tainted food or drink would be the cause. But as those tests — being conducted in French, Swiss and Russian laboratories — are expected to take several months, it’s worth considering some alternate scenarios. After all, polonium-210 is a naturally occurring element as well as a byproduct of nuclear machinery.

All of this — the low level of natural occurrence, the very targeted efficiency of the poison — tell you that it’s highly unlikely for anyone to accidentally receive a lethal dose of polonium-210.

But it is possible to give yourself a nasty little dose — and that’s by becoming a heavy smoker of cigarettes. There’s a detailed description of some of these risks at the website of Lenntech, a company that makes air and water filters. It cites among other things, data from the CDC that “Americans are exposed to more radiation from tobacco smoke than any other source.” It also notes that polonium-210 has been isolated from both the blood and urine of heavy smokers.


http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/12/yassar-arafat-and-the-radioactive-cigarette/
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Radiation experts confirm polonium on Arafat clothing
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=638738
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Yasser Arafat addresses delegates of the Organization of African
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PARIS (AFP) -- Swiss radiation experts have confirmed they found traces of polonium on clothing used by Yasser Arafat which "support the possibility" the veteran Palestinian leader was poisoned.

In a report published by The Lancet at the weekend, the team provide scientific details to media statements made in 2012 that they had found polonium on Arafat's belongings.

Arafat died in France on November 11 2004 at the age of 75, but doctors were unable to specify the cause of death. No autopsy was carried out at the time, in line with his widow's request.

His remains were exhumed in November 2012 and samples taken, partly to investigate whether he had been poisoned -- a suspicion that grew after the assassination of Russian ex-spy and Kremlin critic Alexander Litvinenko in 2006.

That investigation is ongoing, conducted separately by teams in France, Switzerland and Russia.

In the Lancet report, eight scientists working at the Institute of Radiation Physics and University Center of Legal Medicine in Lausanne said they had carried out radiological tests on 75 samples.

Thirty-eight samples came from Arafat's belongings, including underwear, a shapka hat, toothbrush, a hospital cap and sportswear, that were provided by the Palestinian leader's widow Suha Arafat.

These were checked against 37 "reference" samples of cotton clothing that had been kept in an attic for 10 years and protected from dust.

"Several samples containing body fluid stains (blood and urine) contained higher unexplained polonium 210 activities than the reference samples," says the case report.

"These findings support the possibility of Arafat's poisoning with polonium 210."

The polonium samples were measured at "several mBq," or millibecquerels, a unit of radioactivity.

Computer modelling, which calculates polonium's very fast decay, found that these levels "are compatible with a lethal ingestion of several GBq," or several billion becquerels, in 2004, they said.

In addition, says the report, Arafat's clinical symptoms "could not rule out" polonium poisoning.

These include nausea, vomiting, fatigue and abdominal pain.

"Since ingested polonium 210 is eliminated partly through feces, the gastro-intestinal syndrome, associated with multiple organ failure, could be a predominant cause of death," the authors suggest.

They acknowledge, though, that Arafat showed no hair loss or decline in bone marrow activity -- symptoms that typically occur in radiation poisoning.

The team regret that no postmortem investigation was carried out after Arafat's death.

"An autopsy would have been useful in this case because although potential polonium poisoning might not have been identified during that procedure, body samples could have been kept and tested afterwards."

On July 3 2012, one of the authors, Francois Bochud, who is head of the Institute of Radiation Physics, told Al-Jazeera that the team "did find some significant polonium" in Arafat's belongings.

"If (Suha Arafat) really wants to know what happened to her husband (we need) to find a sample -- I mean an exhumation -- should provide with a sample that should have a very high quantity of polonium if he was poisoned," he told the Mideast TV news channel.

Beatrice Schaad, head of communications at the Vaudois University Hospital Center which is in charge of the institute, said the case report was the "scientific version" of what was given to the media.

"There is nothing new compared with what was said" in 2012, she told AFP. "There is still no conclusion that he was poisoned."
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PostPosted: 15-10-2013 21:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Litvenenko had been humping him for years.

"He's my hot tea-pot!" said the president. in a confidential message secreted in his underpants, unaware of the toxic load he had absorbed. Sad
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