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Posted: 08-05-2005 19:24 Post subject:

Yes but you were talking about people's theories rather than experiences weren't you?

Regarding near death experiences for what it's worth, it's the one field that interests me more than any other. I've read an awful lot of accounts on this, including from reputable people (as far as I know) such as Dr.Melvin Morse, who's interviewed many children etc.. I'd really like there to be something in it, there certainly seems to be, but until I experience it myself..

Posted: 08-05-2005 19:26 Post subject:

The above post was to your last on the previous page btw. A bit quick off the mark there..

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Posted: 08-05-2005 20:48 Post subject:

I don't think we'll ever get hard evidence because we aren't meant to know. With proof there is no faith and without faith, a lot of us would be living our lives very differently.. (Tongue slightly in cheek? Waiting for someone cue in the 'God vanishes in a puff of logic' joke')

Incidentally regarding specific tests done while patients are comatose not proving conclusive. This may be true, but that's just a few tests in the scheme of things. What about patients seeing objects (for example) in the theatre they couldn't possibly have known about not just because they were unconcious, but from their perspective on the operating table. Kenneth Ring mentions these in his book 'Lessons from the Light'. He's documented many of these in almost 20 years of research and as he says 'while no single instance may prove conclusive in itself, the cumulative weight of these narratives is sufficient to convince most skeptics that these reports are something more than mere hallucinations on the patient's part'. There's also accounts in that book from people who are blind (!)

Still this is proof to Kenneth Ring, but it's not proof to me. But i'm by no means a skeptic either.

Posted: 09-05-2005 01:18 Post subject:

Great discussion here, you guys......you all make great points. yeay

Posted: 17-05-2005 16:59 Post subject:

I've always been open-mided about spiritual phenomena because I had a similar experience to the one in the first post in this thread. I was ten or eleven years old and on holiday in Greece with my family when it happened.

I was unable to swim at the time and was splashing around in the kiddie pool with my younger brother when I decided to climb into the adjoining main swimming pool. I didn't realise that the larger pool was much deeper and soon found myself out of my depth and unable to pull myself out.

While I was "drowning" I remember while underwater what I can only describe as a feeling of great dread followed by a unnaturally calm, almost serene, feeling for a moment.

The sceptic in me says this was probably adrenaline or endorphins kicking in, anyway I digress, I remember being lifted out of the water, but not by an invisible force, this was an actual person, who I remember quite vividly as being Scandinavian in appearance and very tall. That obviously isn't very unusual, but I remember looking around to thank him after I'd got my breath back and he was nowhere to be seen. Logically, he couldn't have gone anywhere without me seeing where he went.

That's always confused me and I have since wondered if there was a reason I was spared that day, but I've yet to find out what my "destiny" is.

Posted: 17-05-2005 17:55 Post subject:

Welcome to the discussion board, Black Mark.

Your account of what happened to you and description of your rescuer sounds very much like thousands of others, in which someone was saved by an angel.

I would be inclined to think that was what you witnessed.
I wish my brother had had one ( an angel to save him). He drowned when I was 1 ( and he was 9). It must have been his time to go I guess.

Posted: 17-05-2005 20:19 Post subject:

Thanks for the post Mark.

& very sorry to hear that redhead Sad

Posted: 18-05-2005 10:59 Post subject:

Thanks for your kind welcomes Diabolik and Redhead and I too am sorry to hear about your brother Redhead. I'm remaining open-minded as to what happened that day, but I suppose I'll never know the truth.

I have suffered a fair few hardships in my time (and a few near-fatal near misses also) but I have always got out unscathed. Sure, this may just be coincidence, but over the last few years I have developed a very strong sense of "purpose" as if there is a plan for me.

It does feel very out of the ordinary, but I'm unaware as to what my "purpose" is or might be. It does seem rather spooky when I consider all that has happened to me in this context.

Posted: 18-05-2005 12:15 Post subject:

I feel the same way, Mark. In my 35 years, I have been in an explosion yet I received only minimal burns to mostly my hair and eyelashes ( i was 3), I was attacked by a German Shepherd, got 12 stitches in my leg from that ( I was about 9), fell down a flight of stairs when I was learning to walk ( before I was 1), yet only got a bit black and blue.

Each of these alone could have easily killed me. I must be here for some reason too.

Posted: 18-05-2005 23:51 Post subject:

..or maybe the big man upstairs just gave up trying to kill you off.. Laughing

Posted: 19-05-2005 00:52 Post subject:

LOL...maybe.

Posted: 19-05-2005 09:10 Post subject: