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PostPosted: 14-12-2004 17:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just what were Nilssen's culinary skills like?


He had been in the Army Catering Corps and fancied himself as a bit of a chef - an ambition which is normally, but not always, mutually exclusive to a career in Army catering.
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AndroMan wrote:
Just what were Nilssen's culinary skills like?


He had been in the Army Catering Corps and fancied himself as a bit of a chef - an ambition which is normally, but not always, mutually exclusive to a career in Army catering.
So, he'd have been good for Christmas Dinners, chillis, curries and other sorts of solid, meaty fare as would fill the military's stomachs and, later, impress his friends and colleagues




This is getting more like Sweeney Todd, with every post. Sad
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So, he'd have been good for Christmas Dinners, chillis, curries and other sorts of solid, meaty fare as would fill the military's stomachs and, later, impress his friends and colleagues
This is getting more like Sweeney Todd, with every post. Sad


Thankfully we haven't been exposed to a Dennis Nilsen cook book yet.
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PostPosted: 14-12-2004 18:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is getting more like Sweeney Todd, with every post. Sad


Yeah, but it's the plumber I feel really sorry for!
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PostPosted: 14-12-2004 18:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spook wrote:
AndroMan wrote:
This is getting more like Sweeney Todd, with every post. Sad


Yeah, but it's the plumber I feel really sorry for!


The story goes that guy from plumbing company climbs down into drain on his first day on the job on his own and discovers a layer of fat an ich or two thick, has no idea what it is and decides to stop work and call supervisor. It being towards the end of the day no-one attends until the following day, meanwhile Neilson is seen entering said drain and appearing with black bags, when supervisor returns next day there is little evidence left apart from 'bits' left in the drain pipe but enough to alert him who calls the police who discover that it is human. All the time Neilsen was sitting at work according to his colleagues 'in a bit of a sad haze'. When the police knocked on his door later that night he met them saying "Oh you've come about the drains".
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PostPosted: 14-12-2004 23:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about it being the guy's first day on the job, but from what I recall of the reporting at the time, the plumber had scooped a couple of buckets of the fleshy sludge out of the drain without realising what it was and Nilson had gone out and removed them.

The truly remarkable part of that tale is that when a small sample of skin from the drain was presented to a forensic pathologist, he told them the victim was strangled. Apparently the skin was from the neck and had ligature marks on it. Seriously...
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PostPosted: 14-12-2004 23:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know about it being the guy's first day on the job, but from what I recall of the reporting at the time, the plumber had scooped a couple of buckets of the fleshy sludge out of the drain without realising what it was and Nilson had gone out and removed them.

The truly remarkable part of that tale is that when a small sample of skin from the drain was presented to a forensic pathologist, he told them the victim was strangled. Apparently the skin was from the neck and had ligature marks on it. Seriously...


Stop right there BRF.. you'll have him appealing on the grounds of an unsafe conviction!
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PostPosted: 15-12-2004 12:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the hacked up bodies in bin liners in his wardrobe were more of a give-away. And IIRC a few under the floorboards too?
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PostPosted: 15-12-2004 13:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to my sisters boss's house party tomorrow and I joked that I hoped he wasn't like like Nilsen and that was before this thread was started.

So now I am definatley not eating anything home made or meaty at the party just in case and no pork scratchings either Wink .
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PostPosted: 15-12-2004 13:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the hacked up bodies in bin liners in his wardrobe were more of a give-away. And IIRC a few under the floorboards too?


He used to put them under his floor boards but then he was relocated by the council to an upper floor flat that didn't have floor boards so he started putting them down the drain IIRC.
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I work at the DWP and had pork sandwiches yesterday. I felt shifty all day, even though I'm fairly sure I've not been chopping people up of an evening.


I recall hearing that Dr Who's John Nathan Turner and Gary Downie either lived in a flat formerly resided in by Nilsen or met while guests of a friend who lived in said flat. UL or science fact?
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PostPosted: 15-12-2004 18:06    Post subject: Dennis Nielsen Reply with quote

"One suggested that he be taken off the coffee rota as he wasn't sure he'd be around for a few weeks."

I heard an interesting variant of this example of Nielsen's "wry" sense of humour. A colleague of a good friend of mine who works for Nat West bank had apparently worked at the branch at which Nielsen had his account. After his arrest, he returned his ATM card with a covering note stating that he didn't think he'd be needing it for a while...

The anecdote conecting Nielsen's flat to Dr Who producer John Nathan Turner and his partner Gary Downie comes, I believe, from a very bitter interview that Gary Downie gave to Dr Who magazine last year. Apparently, he met Jon Nathan Turner for the first time at a party at the flat that Nielsen subsequently rented..
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PostPosted: 15-12-2004 21:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryman alludes to this in his online novel 253 (also available as a regular ol' book):

Passenger 166

Passenger 234


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He used to put them under his floor boards but then he was relocated by the council to an upper floor flat that didn't have floor boards so he started putting them down the drain IIRC.


So then they were under someone else's floorboards? omg
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PostPosted: 16-12-2004 00:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to my dad (who was a prison officer in brixton dureing the early 80's) Nilssen's reasons for killing was that he couldn't ever bear being alone so if people wanted to leave him (after a one night stand or whatever) then he would kill them so he could keep them close by for company. This behavior started after the death of his grandmother when he kept her body on the bed upstairs for some time refuseing to accept that she was dead.

Don't know how accurate that is but as it was the tale going around the prison where he was being kept I'd presume it's not a million miles away from his motives.

Apparetly Nilssen took well to prison life quite well.
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