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CygnusRex Incubus Joined: 04 Jan 2002 Total posts: 1771 Location: NOT on a ladder, just outside your bedroom window Age: 83 Gender: Male |
 Posted: 16-12-2004 09:07 Post subject: |
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| Lord_Flashheart wrote: | according to my dad (who was a prison officer in brixton dureing the early 80's) Nilssen's reasons for killing was that he couldn't ever bear being alone so if people wanted to leave him (after a one night stand or whatever) then he would kill them so he could keep them close by for company. This behavior started after the death of his grandmother when he kept her body on the bed upstairs for some time refuseing to accept that she was dead.
Don't know how accurate that is but as it was the tale going around the prison where he was being kept I'd presume it's not a million miles away from his motives.
Apparetly Nilssen took well to prison life quite well. |
Hence the name of the book on Nilsen 'Killing for company' by Brian Masters
and also rather disturbingly a song by The Swans |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 16-12-2004 11:14 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The anecdote conecting Nielsen's flat to Dr Who producer John Nathan Turner and his partner Gary Downie comes, I believe, from a very bitter interview that Gary Downie gave to Dr Who magazine last year. |
*blush* It's just been pointed out to me that said interview was where I came across the anecdote in the first place, d'oh.
It was a very bitter interview, wasn't it? |
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| thracianhoard Grey Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Total posts: 14 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 16-12-2004 15:44 Post subject: |
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"It's just been pointed out to me that said interview was where I came across the anecdote in the first place, d'oh.
It was a very bitter interview, wasn't it?"
Yes, taken in context, Gary Downie's partner had died fairly recently before the interview but, that said, he did come across as a very bitter man.
I'm sure that you could generate a whole chain of urban myths around Doctor Who - ie Tony Hancock really invented the daleks, the first episode was transmitted live, various alien races were designed by school children as part of a "design a monster competion", a friend of a friend recently watched a copy of epiosde 6 of Web of Fear (or choose any one of 100+ "missing" episodes), the BBC management so hated Dr Who in the late eighties that it was deliberately scheduled against Corontation Street in order to kill it off (oh, actually that last one's true...) |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 16-12-2004 20:59 Post subject: |
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That's pretty much what Brian Masters' Killing For Company says as well.
I'm not fond of Masters' writing style. He seems far too keen to empathise with the murderers. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 17-12-2004 12:07 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'm sure that you could generate a whole chain of urban myths around Doctor Who |
Not forgetting 'Kate Bush wrote Kinda', 'Harold Pinter was in The Abominable Snowman', 'Hartnell's scenes for The 3 Doctors were shot in his garage' and, um, I'm not sure whether the rumours surrounding Troughton's death count as urban legends or just unashamedly juvenile filth-mongering. |
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| BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
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| Posted: 17-12-2004 17:59 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'm not sure whether the rumours surrounding Troughton's death count as urban legends or just unashamedly juvenile filth-mongering. |
I can;t say I've heard those? |
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| thracianhoard Grey Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Total posts: 14 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 19-12-2004 17:13 Post subject: |
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"I'm not sure whether the rumours surrounding Troughton's death count as urban legends or just unashamedly juvenile filth-mongering."
A bit of both I should imagine...
another favourite fan pass time is speculating which companion got jiggy with which doctor off screen (aside from the obvious ones that were married to each other , ie Lalla and Tom Baker, Jean Marsh and Jon Pertwee). One actress, allegedly, has managed to notch up three "doctors" on her bed post... |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 19-12-2004 22:49 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I can;t say I've heard those? |
Just PM'd them to you. Fairly predictable stuff though.
| Quote: | | another favourite fan pass time is speculating which companion got jiggy with which doctor off screen |
And who did what with whose coffee table, of course.
Ah, it's a puerile life but a happy one in Dr Who fandom... |
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| oll_lewis mi mou tous kiklous taratte
sea below Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Total posts: 3071 Location: Woolfardisworthy Age: 33 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 20-12-2004 05:12 Post subject: |
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| Swan wrote: | | Lord_Flashheart wrote: | according to my dad (who was a prison officer in brixton dureing the early 80's) Nilssen's reasons for killing was that he couldn't ever bear being alone so if people wanted to leave him (after a one night stand or whatever) then he would kill them so he could keep them close by for company. This behavior started after the death of his grandmother when he kept her body on the bed upstairs for some time refuseing to accept that she was dead.
Don't know how accurate that is but as it was the tale going around the prison where he was being kept I'd presume it's not a million miles away from his motives.
Apparetly Nilssen took well to prison life quite well. |
Hence the name of the book on Nilsen 'Killing for company' by Brian Masters
and also rather disturbingly a song by The Swans |
Dosen't surprise me, I'm sure brian masters would have interveiwed prison officers responcible for his care and D.N. himself. Dose kind of conferm my Dads story though and that of the other officers... in most cases there may have been exageration but I suspect this was a case you can't really exagerate to make it seem more grusome... even the story about the sandwiches dosen't shock as much as the reality of what happened. |
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| Posted: 20-12-2004 09:31 Post subject: Mystified |
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| Lord_Flashheart wrote: | ...
Dosen't surprise me, I'm sure brian masters would have interveiwed prison officers responcible for his care and D.N. himself. Dose kind of conferm my Dads story though and that of the other officers... in most cases there may have been exageration but I suspect this was a case you can't really exagerate to make it seem more grusome... even the story about the sandwiches dosen't shock as much as the reality of what happened. |
Of course, the real question is, why would anybody want to believe anything a serial killer sociopath like Nielsen would have to say? Someone who had still been able to hold down a civil service job and even socialize with his unsuspecting co-workers, until he ran out of hiding places for the mortal remains of his victims. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 20-12-2004 14:45 Post subject: |
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This whole case intrigued my mother and I and i remember us sitting watching the news together to find out the latest. After his imprisonment Mum bought me a book which went through Neilsons life story, how they caught him etc. I was reading it when i was taken into hospital for minor surgery and when i'd had my pre-med i couldn't stop laughing whilst reading. One of the more senior nurses accused me of being a 'sick individual'  |
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| BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 8716 Location: The Attic of Blinky Lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 20-12-2004 19:57 Post subject: |
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| IIRC hadn't DN worked as a policeman for a while, and resigned after he refused to arrest two gay men having sex in a car? |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 21-12-2004 20:51 Post subject: |
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| I think he was a Special Constable |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 23-12-2004 17:29 Post subject: Re: Dennis Nilson's sandwhiches... |
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| BlackRiverFalls wrote: | | Anyone else heard this UL? |
I've not read the thread so it may have been mensioned but...
If I remembe rit's coverd in Killing for Company by Brian Masters ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0099552612/qid=1103819279/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/202-8916129-7728667) only, if i remember corectly it was over a curry he made...
As you corectly identify BRF he wasn't a canable and the department he worked for was the Job Centre where he was well liked and (I think) a union rep. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 23-12-2004 17:42 Post subject: |
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| Lord_Flashheart wrote: | | Apparetly Nilssen took well to prison life quite well. |
well he'd never be alone would he? |
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