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gncxx King-Size Canary
Great Old One Joined: 25 Aug 2001 Total posts: 13561 Location: Eh? Gender: Male |
 Posted: 04-06-2008 18:15 Post subject: |
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Anybody who thinks that psychics are essentially harmless should be reminded of vile stories like the above.
On a lighter note, on the Graham Norton show last week they had Dame Edna Everage phone up a psychic line for a laugh, but the psychic told them, after taking their details and keeping them on the line for over a minute, that she wasn't picking up anything from the other side and hung up! And they still got charged something like £1.50 per minute! |
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| Anome_ Faceless Man
Great Old One Joined: 23 May 2002 Total posts: 5377 Location: Left, and to the back. Age: 45 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 06-06-2008 06:19 Post subject: |
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| My question is: "What is it about Adelaide?" Is it something in that crappy water? |
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| IvanVolle Great Old One Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Total posts: 274 Location: A.C.T Aust Age: 36 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 18-06-2008 12:53 Post subject: Off subject. Reply to a vexing question.......... |
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Anome_ posted:
"My question is: "What is it about Adelaide?" Is it something in that crappy water?"
While researching the Adelaide "Bodies in the Barrels" murders, I came across this quote that may provide an answer for that question:
""Adelaide is a stifled and inbred city whose subculture of degeneracy led to atrocities such as the bodies-in-barrels murders. Cities such as Sydney and Melbourne had areas of similar social deprivation to Adelaide, but these were dynamic and social societies with more outlets for people's frustrations. Adelaide is much more of a stifled, inbred community.There is no vibrant social or commercial life (in the city). The question is why do the best and brightest in Adelaide never stay around, and why few in that category come here? The answer is clear - no one with ambition thinks that Adelaide is the place for them.""
Ouch! That was from Allan Perry, an Adelaide University criminologist.
Source here:
http://www.sauer-thompson.com/archives/opinion/000830.php |
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| IvanVolle Great Old One Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Total posts: 274 Location: A.C.T Aust Age: 36 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 30-06-2008 17:06 Post subject: |
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Killer clairvoyant didn't foresee jail term
July 01, 2008
"A COLD-blooded clairvoyant who shot his solicitor dead over a grudge has lashed out at the judge who in Melbourne sentenced him to at least 24 years' jail.
John Thomas Glascott had a brooding resentment for his long-time lawyer, David Meredyth Robinson, who he blamed for losing his home in a divorce settlement.
A Supreme Court jury found Glascott, 44, guilty of murdering Mr Robinson, 56, in a lane behind his Fairfield practice on the night of July 10, 2006.
The father of three cried and begged to Glascott before collapsing and dying from blood loss.
After he was sentenced yesterday by Justice Philip Cummins to 28 years' jail with a minimum of 24 years, Glascott shouted from the dock: "Thank you for the entertaining novel, Your Honour. See you in the appeals court."
Glascott, who angrily sacked his barrister, Russell Sarah, before the judge came on the bench, told reporters in court to "stick that" as he was led away by guards.
Justice Cummins described him as aggressive, unstable, manipulative and self-centred, and said despite depression and cognitive defects from a suicide attempt, he was fully aware of what he was doing. "
Full Article:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23950378-421,00.html |
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| BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 8716 Location: The Attic of Blinky Lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 15-07-2011 22:19 Post subject: |
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Same sort of idea as a lot of the above, but i'm surprised it worked on a cold call.
Perhaps it's similar to some of the ludicrously overcharging roofers/gardeners in relying to targetting an older person whose judgement might be getting wonky.
| Quote: | Faith healer scam targeting Asian families in Leeds
Detectives are warning people that men posing as faith healers have been targeting Asian families in Leeds.
Two men claiming to be collecting for charity went to a house on Grange Avenue in Chapeltown on Friday.
West Yorkshire Police said the pair went on to claim the householder was ill and that black magic was affecting his home.
They spoke to the family about how they could help lift the black magic and then demanded £501 for the service.
Police said the man handed over £150 and was told by the men they would return as the black magic would not be fully lifted until the balance of the money was paid.
A similar incident also took place nearby on the same day.
Both men are described as being in their mid to late 30s, with full beards and were smartly dressed and wearing black turbans.
They spoke in Punjabi and had a good knowledge of Islamic teachings.
Insp Matthew Davison, who leads the Chapel Allerton Neighbourhood Policing Team, said: "The tactics employed by these men are concerning given the targeted way they appear to approaching local Asian families and the pressure they are placing on them." |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-14150002 |
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| Ghostisfort Great Old One Joined: 04 Jul 2009 Total posts: 770 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 02-09-2011 19:44 Post subject: |
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Some mediums and psychics are fraudulent.
Therefore: All mediums and psychics are fraudulent.
Naaa
This is sceptical logic - right?   |
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| Spookdaddy Cuckoo Joined: 24 May 2006 Total posts: 3924 Location: Midwich Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 02-09-2011 19:51 Post subject: |
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Well, this is a thread which is specifically about fraudulent mediums.
Does what it says on the tin. |
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| BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 8716 Location: The Attic of Blinky Lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 02-09-2011 23:04 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Some mediums and psychics are fraudulent.
Therefore: All mediums and psychics are fraudulent.
Naaa
This is sceptical logic - right? Rolling Eyes Confused |
From page 1 of this thread:
| stuneville wrote: | | Perhaps it should be noted that this thread is dedicated to mediums and psychics that are proven to be fraudulent, thus avoiding the inevitable post saying "But they're all fake". and the precipitated discussion about the nature of belief in a Fortean context dragging everyone way off thread (we've been there before, more than once). |
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| Recycled1 Great Old One Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Total posts: 1823 Location: In front of the computer! Gender: Female |
| Posted: 03-09-2011 08:19 Post subject: |
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Perhaps in the interest of impartiality, fair play and all that, we should have an alternative thread entitled
"Genuine Psychics and Mediums"!  |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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| Posted: 03-09-2011 09:09 Post subject: |
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Good point. I'm always a bit annoyed when somebody claims that something hasn't been done, something interesting hasn't been reported, a thread doesn't exist, because somebody else should have done it.
The solution lies in everybody's own hands on this MB. If you can't find a thread on a subject and you think there should be one. Create one.  |
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 20-09-2011 09:58 Post subject: |
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| Pietro_Mercurios wrote: | | Good point. I'm always a bit annoyed when somebody claims that something hasn't been done, something interesting hasn't been reported, a thread doesn't exist, because somebody else should have done it. |
I thought this story had been on the MB before, but various searches turned up nothing, so I'll post it here.
Psychic Sally Morgan hears voices from the other side (via a hidden earpiece)
Evidence 'Britain's best-loved psychic' Sally Morgan may not be all she seems is unlikely to deter her fans, writes Chris French
Chris French guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 20 September 2011 07.30 BST
According to her website, Sally Morgan is "Britain's best-loved psychic". She is certainly a very successful psychic – she has just released her third book and is currently filming the third series of Psychic Sally on the Road for Sky LIVING. But an incident that took place a few days ago may cause a few of her fans to wonder whether Morgan is deserving of their adoration. Could it be that, like so many self-professed psychic superstars in the past, Morgan is nothing more than a self-serving con artist?
Let me describe what happened so that you can make up your own mind. On Monday 12 September, a caller named Sue phoned the Liveline show on RTÉ Radio 1, an Irish radio station. Sue said that she had attended Morgan's show the previous night at the Grand Canal Theatre in Dublin and had been impressed by the accuracy of the readings she made in the first half of the show.
But then something odd happened. Sue was sitting in the back row on the fourth level of the theatre and there was a small room behind her ("like a projection room") with a window open. Sue and her companions became aware of a man's voice and "everything that the man was saying, the psychic was saying it 10 seconds later."
Sue believes, not unreasonably, that the man was feeding information to Sally through an earpiece attached to her microphone. For example, the voice would say something like "David, pain in the back, passed quickly" and a few seconds later Sally would claim to have the spirit of a "David" on stage who – you'll never guess – suffered from back pain and passed quickly.
A member of staff realised that several people near the back of the theatre were aware of the mystery voice and the window was gently closed. The voice was not heard again.
Sue speculated, again not unreasonably given the history of psychic frauds, that the man was feeding Sally information that had been gathered by engaging members of the audience in conversation in the foyer before the show began. This is a technique widely used by psychic fraudsters, as audience members will naturally discuss with each other who they are hoping to hear from "on the other side", how their loved one died, and so on.
Subsequent callers to the radio programme supported Sue's account.
The theatre's general manager, Stephen Faloon, claimed that the voice heard by the audience was actually the voices of two members of staff working for the theatre, not someone supplying information to Sally. Sally Morgan Enterprises also denied that the medium was being fed information during the show.
This episode is reminiscent of the exposure of faith healer Peter Popoff by James Randi in 1986. Popoff would wow his audiences by giving specific and accurate details of their medical problems before claiming to cure them with his divine powers. This information was, according to Popoff, provided to him directly by God. It was certainly an effective technique, as at this time Popoff was raking in around $4m per month (tax-free) from his poor, sick and uneducated followers.
Randi, with the assistance of investigator Alexander Jason, convincingly demonstrated that Popoff was actually receiving the "divine" information from his wife via a hearing aid. Following his exposure on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, Popoff declared bankruptcy in 1987.
In a more rational world, that would have been the end of Popoff's career as a faith healer. Sadly, we do not live in a rational world. Popoff is back, earning more than ever by fleecing his flock using exactly the same techniques that Randi exposed, plus a few new ones, such as the sale of "Miracle Spring Water". According to ABC News, Popoff's ministry received more than $9.6m in 2003 and more than $23m in 2005. In that year, Popoff paid himself and his wife a combined total of almost a million dollars (not to mention two of his children receiving more than $180,000 each).
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/sep/20/psychic-sally-morgan-hears-voices |
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| Ronson8 Things can only get better.
Great Old One Joined: 31 Jul 2001 Total posts: 6061 Location: MK Gender: Male |
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 20-09-2011 10:37 Post subject: |
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Ah, that explains why I didn't find it - you only posted the link, not the text.
It probably belongs here anyhow.  |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17933 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
| Posted: 20-09-2011 12:56 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Neath psychic Dawn Pearson claimed £33,000 benefits
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-14980381
Dawn Pearson will be sentenced by a judge next month
A woman who worked as a self-employed chatline tarot reader has admitted to fraudulently claiming £33,000 in benefits.
Dawn Pearson, 50, from Neath advertised her services on the Psychic TV website.
Customers were charged £1.53 per minute while the 50-year-old claimed to be too ill to work.
She admitted four charges of benefits fraud and was released on bail by Neath magistrates to be sentenced at Swansea Crown Court next month.
Continue reading the main story
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There have been problems of an individual nature. She had got herself into debt”
Paul Jackson
Pearson's solicitor
The court heard Pearson unlawfully claimed a total of £33,206.82 in income support, job seekers allowance, housing benefit and council tax benefit over 16 months.
Prosecutor John Allchurch, for the Department of Work and Pensions, said: "Suspicion arose that Miss Pearson was working and an investigation was instigated.
"Miss Pearson was working as a self-employed chat line tarot reader between 2005 and 2009 for one company and after that onwards for another company."
On the website, Pearson is pictured next to the description: "Dawn is an excellent Psychic clairvoyant, with many years experience.
"She uses her cards and crystals, and also her spirit guides to get a link with you.
"She is a trained Reiki healer and has been using all of her gifts to help people for many years.
"Dawn will happily discuss any pressing relationship or career questions, but can also give general guidance on self-development using her training as a life coach."
'Great stress'
The court heard she was claiming benefits because she was "unable to work due to illness and disability."
Pearson was described as a "lady of previously good character" by her solicitor Paul Jackson.
Mr Jackson said: "There have been problems of an individual nature. She had got herself into debt.
"It was partly hers but a great deal came from her generosity with regards to her mother who she was helping out with large catalogue debts at the time.
"That doesn't excuse fraud - she became desperate.
"She had brought it upon herself and wasn't brave enough to deal with it. These things do not go away and it caused her great stress." |
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| escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17896 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 4 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 20-09-2011 15:18 Post subject: |
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May I be the first to say - she didn't see that coming!  |
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