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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Quote: | What Governs Maximum Lifespan? Study Of Aging Rates, Gender Gap In Mortality Across Primates Inconclusive
12 Mar 2011
Humans aren't the only ones who grow old gracefully, says a new study of primate aging patterns.
For a long time it was thought that humans, with our relatively long life spans and access to modern medicine, aged more slowly than other animals. Early comparisons with rats, mice, and other short-lived creatures confirmed the hunch. But now, the first-ever multi-species comparison of human aging patterns with those in chimps, gorillas, and other primates suggests the pace of human aging may not be so unique after all.
The findings appear in the March 11 issue of Science.
You don't need to read obituaries or sell life insurance to know that death and disease become more common as we transition from middle age to old age. But scientists studying creatures from mice to fruit flies long assumed the aging clock ticked more slowly for humans.
We had good reason to think human aging was unique, said co-author Anne Bronikowski, an associate professor at Iowa State University. For one, humans live longer than many animals. There are some exceptions - parrots, seabirds, clams and tortoises can all outlive us - but humans stand out as the longest-lived primates.
"Humans live for many more years past our reproductive prime," Bronikowski said. "If we were like other mammals, we would start dying fairly rapidly after we reach mid-life. But we don't," she said.
"There's been this argument in the scientific literature for a long time that human aging was unique, but we didn't have data on aging in wild primates besides chimps until recently," said co-author Susan Alberts, associate director at the NSF-funded National Evolutionary Synthesis Center in Durham, N.C., and a biologist at Duke University.
The researchers combined data from long-term studies of seven species of wild primates: capuchin monkeys from Costa Rica, muriqui monkeys from Brazil, baboons and blue monkeys from Kenya, chimpanzees from Tanzania, gorillas from Rwanda, and sifaka lemurs from Madagascar.
The team focused not on the inevitable decline in health or fertility that come with advancing age, but rather on the risk of dying. When they compared human aging rates - measured as the rate at which mortality risk increases with age - to similar data for nearly 3,000 individual monkeys, apes and lemurs, the human data fell neatly within the primate continuum.
"Human patterns are not strikingly different, even though wild primates experience sources of mortality from which humans may be protected," the authors wrote in a letter to Science.
The results also confirm a pattern observed in humans and elsewhere in the animal kingdom: as males age, they die sooner than their female counterparts. In primates, the mortality gap between males and females is narrowest for the species with the least amount of male-male aggression - a monkey called the muriqui - the researchers report.
"Muriquis are the only species in our sample in which males do not compete overtly with one another for access to mates," said co-author Karen Strier, an anthropologist at the University of Wisconsin who has studied muriquis since 1982. The results suggest the reason why males of other species die faster than females may be the stress and strain of competition, the authors said.
Do the findings have any practical implications for humans? Modern medicine is helping humans live longer than ever before, the researchers note.
"Yet we still don't know what governs maximum life span," Alberts said. "Some human studies suggest we might be able to live a lot longer than we do now. Looking to other primates to understand where we are and aren't flexible in our aging will help answer that question."
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Bronikowski, A., J. Altmann, et al. (2011). "Aging in the natural world: comparative data reveal similar mortality patterns across primates." Science 331(6022).
Study authors (in alphabetical order) and their areas of expertise are:
Susan Alberts (Duke University) - baboons, Kenya
Jeanne Altmann (Princeton University) - baboons, Kenya
Diane Brockman (University of North Carolina-Charlotte) - lemurs, Madagascar
Anne Bronikowski (Iowa State University) - demography and life history
Marina Cords (Columbia University) - blue monkeys, Kenya
Linda Fedigan (University of Calgary) - capuchin monkeys, Costa Rica
William Morris (Duke University) - demographic and ecological analysis
Anne Pusey (Duke University) - chimpanzees, Tanzania
Tara Stoinski (Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund International and Zoo Atlanta) - gorillas, Rwanda
Karen Strier (University of Wisconsin-Madison) - muriqui monkeys, Brazil
Source:
Robin Ann Smith
Duke University
Article URL: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/218877.php |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Quote: | U.S.A. Life Expectancy Up To Number 50; Japan Holds At Fifth Globally
17 Mar 2011
Americans are living longer. Who knew? Life expectancy in the United States has hit another high, rising above 78 years. However, the U.S. still ranks number 50 in the world. Macau tops the world with an average 2011 life expectancy of 89.3 years, and Japan ranks number five at 82.25 years.
The estimate of 78 years and 2 months is for a baby born in 2009. To be gender specific, male life expectancy is roughly 75.5; for females, it is about 80.5 years.
In addition, roughly 2.4 million people died in the United States in 2009, about 36,000 fewer than the year before. Experts do not believe there is one simple explanation for the increase in life expectancy, but better medical treatment, vaccination campaigns and public health measures against smoking are believed to be having an impact.
The infant mortality rate hit a record low of 6.42 deaths per 1,000 live births, a drop of nearly three percent from 2008.
The life expectancy at birth of the world is 67.2 years (65.0 years for males and 69.5 years for females) for 2005 to 2010, according to United Nations World Population Prospects 2006 Revision and 66.57 years (64.52 years for males and 68.76 years for females) for 2009 according to CIA World Factbook 2009.
Many of the countries with the lowest life expectancies, namely Swaziland, Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia, Zambia, Malawi, the Central African Republic, Mozambique, and Guinea-Bissau, are suffering from very high rates of HIV/AIDS infection, with adult prevalence rates ranging from 10 to 38.8 percent. In countries with high infant mortality rates, the life expectancy at birth will be lower, and may not reflect the life expectancy of a person who has survived his or her first year of life.
Age-adjusted death rates declined significantly in the U.S. for 10 of the 15 leading causes of death in 2009: heart disease (declined by 3.7 percent), cancer (1.1 percent), chronic lower respiratory diseases (4.1 percent), stroke (4.2 percent), accidents/unintentional injuries (4.1 percent), Alzheimer's disease (4.1 percent), diabetes (4.1 percent), influenza and pneumonia (4.7 percent), septicemia (1.8 percent), and homicide (6.8 percent).
In 2009, suicide passed septicemia (blood poisoning) to become the 10th leading cause of death. Although the U.S. suicide rate did not change significantly between 2008 and 2009, the number of suicides increased from 35,933 in 2008 to 36,547 in 2009 (1.7 percent increase). Deaths from septicemia declined one percent from 35,961 in 2008 to 35,587 in 2009. Otherwise, the rankings for the 15 leading causes of death did not change between 2008 and 2009.
Sources: The Center For Disease Control and Prevention and The Central Intelligence Agency Factbook
Written by Sy Kraft, B.A.
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 07-04-2011 08:53 Post subject: |
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Who'd a thunk it?
Daily trip to the shops 'helps you live longer'
Perhaps it is not the news that hen-pecked husbands would want to hear.
By Stephen Adams 6:30AM BST 07 Apr 2011
But scientists believe that a daily trip to the shops could help you live longer.
A 10-year study of almost 2,000 people found that those who went to the shops more or less every day were about a quarter less likely to die over that period than the average person.
Researchers believe this could be because shopping is a convenient, enjoyable and sociable way of getting exercise.
They looked at the shopping habits of 1,850 people aged 65 and over, living at home without support, who had taken part in a national health survey.
Of those, 17 per cent shopped every day, 22 per cent between two and four times a week, 13 per cent once a week, and 48 per cent even less frequently.
Those who shopped daily were 27 per cent less likely than average to die over the study period, from 1999 to 2008.
And while almost every man has protested at one time or other that "being dragged around the shops is killing me", men appear to benefit from a daily dose of retail therapy more than women.
Female daily shoppers were 23 per cent less likely to die over the decade - but male daily shoppers were 28 per cent less likely to do so.
The study adjusted for factors known to have a significant effect on a person's health - and hence their chance of dying over a particular period - such as age, sex, and whether they smoked, drank, or took exercise.
The authors, from Taiwan's National Health Research Institutes, acknowledged that frequent shopping could simply be a sign of underlying better health, while infrequent shopping could be indicative of impaired mobility and general ill health.
However, in an article published today (THUR) in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, they suggest that frequent shopping might have "a direct impact on survival" too.
They write: "Shopping captures several dimensions of personal wellbeing, health, and security as well as contributing to the community's cohesiveness and economy, and may represent or actually confer increased longevity."
Much like teenagers hanging out in a shopping centre, they postulate that for the elderly frequent trips to the shops might not always be about shopping.
They might be about getting out to see one's friends or, indeed, taking a little light exercise too.
They argue: "Elderly people may window shop, obtain prescribed drugs, bank, or walk for exercise, seek companionship and avoid loneliness."
Maureen Hinton, lead analyst at Verdict, a London retail consultancy, thought the study made sense.
She said: "By shopping daily, you are having a regular connection with the community, even if it's just with your local shop keeper."
But what exactly was it about shopping that helped prolong lives, she asked.
"I wonder if it's the exercise - or the enjoyment of buying things."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8431898/Daily-trip-to-the-shops-helps-you-live-longer.html
So excessive drinking is bad for my health - but going to the shops to buy the booze is good!
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| Posted: 07-04-2011 10:05 Post subject: |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Quote: | Could this man help us to live to 1000?
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2011/0525/1224297699236.html
Wed, May 25, 2011
Controversial scientist Aubrey de Grey says some people alive now could live for a millennium. But is he a visionary or merely a showman, writes CLAIRE O'CONNELL
FANCY TRYING to blow out 1,000 candles on your birthday cake? It sounds far-fetched, but there are people alive now who will live for a millennium and perhaps more, according to Dr Aubrey de Grey.
With his long hair and a beard that Rasputin would envy, de Grey cuts a distinctive, articulate and sometimes controversial figure on the media circuit as he explains and defends research into “rejuvenation biotechnologies”.
“Rather than simply slowing ageing down, which is what most people have been focused on, we are interested in reversing ageing,” he explains. “So taking people who are already in middle age or older and [getting them back to] the same state of health as a young adult.”
He will be in Dublin tomorrow to talk about how he thinks science will achieve that.
Originally a computer scientist trained at the University of Cambridge, his interest in ageing was sparked by conversations with his wife, a biologist.
De Grey (4 switched his research focus a decade ago and is now chief science officer at the Sens Foundation, a charity set up to look at aspects of ageing and rejuvenation by working university researchers or at its centre in California.
So how do you reverse ageing? The basis of de Grey’s argument is that our metabolism, that complex biochemical orchestra that keeps our bodies running, has side effects that cause damage in the long term.
“The big insight that governs our work is that we can classify these many different types of damage into just seven major categories,” he says. “And within each category, there is a particular approach that seems promising to not simply slow it down but repair the damage, so we have less of it than we had before the therapy was started.”
Those approaches include: replacing useful cells that have disappeared; removing cells that are no longer useful or whose presence is causing harm; destroying junk that builds up inside or outside cells; breaking up rigid connections that cause tissue stiffness; and overcoming problems such as cancer or cell damage that are associated with mutations in DNA.
The research is at a basic stage, and therapies for use on humans are decades away, according to de Grey. He considers the theme that looks to tackle junk that accumulates between cells to be the most advanced.
That’s an area being looked at by Dr Brian O’Nuallain, who has just left University College Dublin for Harvard Medical School, and Brigham and Women’s Hospital. He is starting work on a Sens-funded project into an age-associated condition called senile systemic amyloidosis.
One aim is to develop an antibody that will pick up when a protein called transthyretin clumps abnormally in heart tissue, which can lead to organ failure. Being able to diagnose this early would maximise the beneficial effects of future therapies for the incurable condition, says O’Nuallain. This area of research has raised eyebrows, and O’Nuallain is also sceptical.
“However I presume that future advances in medical research over the next few decades should prolong our lives by a decade,” he says.
But what about centuries? De Grey has drawn sharp criticism in the past and, while he says his work in bringing biologists and gerontologists together has lessened the scepticism, it hasn’t entirely gone away.
“This idea of living to 1,000 is a bit unlikely,” says immunologist Prof Luke O’Neill, professor of biochemistry at Trinity College Dublin, though he notes that the prospect of using pharmaceuticals to extend lifespan has been shown in mice, where an immune suppressant drug can support them living for longer.
“The question then becomes what is the limit for human life. There could be a natural biological limit and no matter what you do, you might never get beyond that unless, of course, you replace each part of the body as it ages with a new part.”
Prof Des O’Neill, a consultant physician in geriatric and stroke medicine at Tallaght Hospital, describes de Grey as being seen more as a showman than a visionary, and says that his narrative could contribute to ageism.
Other experts point to the challenges of rejuvenation; question the biological value of vastly increased lifespans; and express concern over the potential ethical issues involved in bringing such therapies through human clinical trials if carried out in poorly regulated developing countries.
De Grey argues for the need to plough ahead with the science. “We are wasting time and we are costing lives by not prioritising this research,” he says.
Aubrey de Grey is speaking as part of the HUMAN+ exhibition at the Science Gallery, Trinity College Dublin, tomorrow at 6pm. Tickets are available from sciencegallery.com.
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| theyithian Keeping the British end up
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To state the obvious, 130 is pretty old. It makes me wonder, does anyone know of an older living creature, Giant Tortoise or otherwise? It's likely that creatures in captivity would survive longer than those in the wild, but perhaps the Galapagos' enclosed eco-system is an exception to this trend.
I suspect this big chap wasn't always called Methuselah.
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| Quote: | Methuselah, A Well-Loved Tortoise, Dies At 130 In South Dakota
06:49 pm; July 12, 2011 - by Bill Chappell
Methuselah, a giant tortoise whose life began in the Galapagos Islands 130 years ago, has died in Rapid City, S.D. Since 1954, the huge animal has been a star attraction at Reptile Gardens, where officials estimate that he posed for photographs with tens of thousands of visitors, many of them children.
Methuselah began his life in 1881. Here's a sampling of what else was going on that year:
James Garfield became president.
Billy the Kid escaped from jail and was killed by Pat Garrett in New Mexico.
The American Red Cross was established.
The O.K. Corral gunfight took place in Tombstone, Arizona.
According to the AP, park officials commonly heard grandparents telling their grandchildren about their own visits to see Methuselah when they were young.
Park public relations director John Brockelsby said that he first met the tortoise when he was three years old.
"My favorite memories are when I rode him as a child and when I would scratch his neck and under his chin," he told the Rapid City Journal. "Also, feeding him watermelon – his favorite – was always a lot of fun, because if there was ever a chance to see pleasure on a tortoise's face, it was then. He just loved it."
The 500-pound tortoise had more watermelon last month, when the park threw a party for his birthday. His 130 years represent a long life, even by giant tortoise standards.
After Methuselah's arrival at the park at age 73, children were allowed to ride on the tortoise's back — a practice that became forbidden over the years. And park officials say that in the past 10 days, Methuselah had shown signs that he might not live for much longer.
Brockelsby tells the AP that Reptile Gardens will build a memorial to Methuselah. He said of the giant tortoise, "losing him is like losing an old, good friend."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/07/12/137803225/methuselah-a-well-loved-tortoise-dies-at-130-in-south-dakota?ps=cprs |
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| theyithian Keeping the British end up
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| gncxx King-Size Canary
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| How do you tell if a giant tortoise is dead? Do they hibernate like the little versions? Can you take its pulse? Obviously it would start to decompose eventually, but if I were a 130-year-old tortoise I'd be worried that someone might bury me when I was just having a long nap. |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Posted: 15-07-2011 12:28 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | How do you tell if a giant tortoise is dead? |
Start to make turtle soup in a cauldron. If it jumps out, its alive. |
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| gncxx King-Size Canary
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| ramonmercado wrote: | | Quote: | | How do you tell if a giant tortoise is dead? |
Start to make turtle soup in a cauldron. If it jumps out, its alive. |
B-b-but the poor little guys can't jump! |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| gncxx wrote: | | ramonmercado wrote: | | Quote: | | How do you tell if a giant tortoise is dead? |
Start to make turtle soup in a cauldron. If it jumps out, its alive. |
B-b-but the poor little guys can't jump! |
Then hes a witch. |
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
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Scientists discover the secret to a long life... but it's only your dog that will benefit
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 7:53 AM on 18th July 2011
A team of scientists claims that it may have the secret to a longer life - but so far the treatment is only suitable for pets.
The potential cure for age is a drug which protects telomeres, sections of DNA long thought to be the key to the ageing process.
However, the treatment is not yet considered safe for humans, and may first be tested on dogs and cats by being added to pet food.
Scientists think that ageing is caused by the telomeres in our genes shortening over the course of our lifetime.
Now an American research team thinks it has found a way to slow or even reverse this shrinkage, according to the Sunday Times. This could theoretically lengthen our lifespan.
The team is led by Bill Andrews, a scientist based in Nevada who is the founder of Sierra Sciences. He made his name by helping to discover telomerase, an enzyme which apparently reverses the ageing process.
Dr Andrews founded his company in order to find a way to induce cells to produce telomerase and protect themselves from decay.
The new findings, which will be presented in August at a conference in Cambridge, suggest that nearly 40 different substances could contribute to the production of this enzyme.
'Inducing cells to produce telomerase would be a great medical advance,' Dr Andrews said.
'The substances we have found can achieve this but we have to be cautious and there is no chance of getting medical approval for human use for some years.
'For pets, however, the rules are much less stringent - and the market is potentially huge.'
The market for pet medicine has grown quickly over the last few years, and Britons now spend over £800 million per year on drugs for their 16 million cats and dogs.
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
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| ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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| Quote: | 'Predict your death' longevity paper retracted
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/07/gene-test-for-longevity-paper.html
17:53 25 July 2011
Health
Science In Society
Andrew Purcell, contributor
A controversial Science paper that claimed to have found the key to predicting human longevity has now been retracted by its authors.
In the paper, Paola Sebastiani and Thomas Perls of Boston University, Massachusetts, and colleagues reported 150 genetic variations that could be used to predict whether a person was likely to live to 100 years.
The retraction follows quality control measures by an independent laboratory. In the retraction notice, Sebastiani explains: "We feel the main scientific findings remain supported by the available data...However, the specific details of the new analysis change substantially from those originally published online."
According to an accompanying statement published in Science :
Although the authors remain confident about their findings, Science has concluded on the basis of peer-review that a paper built on the corrected data would not meet the journal's standards for genome-wide association studies... The authors have therefore agreed to retract their paper
Criticism of the paper began to surface within days of its publication. It focused on the researchers' use of different types of genome scanning technologies to analyse different data groups, a technical inconsistency that could lead to erroneous positive results. Science took the unusual step of publishing an editorial last November highlighting a number of concerns with the article.
Academics have expressed particular concern at the researchers' underlying assumption that longevity is a simple genetic trait, controlled by a relatively small number of genes. Previous research had suggested that environmental factors are the overwhelming determinant of how long a person is likely to live.
Despite these concerns, Science makes it clear that there was no misconduct by Sebastiani and her colleagues: "The researchers worked exhaustively to correct the errors in the original paper and we regret that the outcome of the extensive revision and re-review process was not more favourable." Sebastiani and her team now intend to seek alternative publication of their amended findings. |
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| rynner2 What a Cad!
Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
| Posted: 18-09-2011 13:08 Post subject: Re: Vampires Live Longer |
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| Heckler20 wrote: | | Quote: | Vampires live longer: official
By Lester Haines
Published Thursday 17th February 2005 14:53 GMT
Scientists at Stanford University have confirmed what Vlad Dracul knew all along: a refreshing dose of young blood can put the spring back into your step.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/17/vampires_live_longer/ |
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But I think this dealer has his tongue in his cheek with this claim:
Is Nicolas Cage immortal? Actor's amazing Civil War doppelganger posted on eBay ... and it's yours for only $1million
By Mark Duell
Last updated at 10:50 PM on 17th September 2011
The antique dealer jokes that his photo is proof Nicholas Cage is more than just an a-list actor - he’s also a vampire who lived during the American Civil War.
An eBay seller claims to have a 4” by 2.5” carte de visite photo from around 1870 of a man who looks exactly like the 47-year-old star of Con Air, Ghost Rider and The Rock.
The seller, who has put the starting price at $1million, says the photo is 100 per cent genuine and was taken of a man who lived in Bristol, Tennessee, around the time of the Civil War.
The man who put the photo on eBay is Jack Mörd, of Seattle, Washington, whose Facebook page says he is originally from Los Angeles, California, and owns ‘The Thanatos Archive’.
'My theory is that he allows himself to age to a certain point, maybe 70, 80 or so, then the actor “Nicolas Cage” will “die”,’ Mr Mörd joked.
‘But in reality, the undead vampire “Nicolas Cage” will have rejuvenated himself and appeared in some other part of the world, young again, and ready to start all over.’
The picture was found in the back of an album that contained many unusual death portraits from the Civil War era - but the Nicholas Cage lookalike was not identified by name, Mr Mörd said.
He has a 100 per cent positive feedback rating on eBay and his profile says he is interested in collecting and selling Victorian Era post-mortem photography, as well as other vintage pictures.
The eBay product description for ‘Nicolas Cage is a Vampire / Photo from 1870 / Tennessee’ says: ‘Original c.1870 carte de visit showing a man who looks exactly like Nick Cage.
‘This is not a trick photo of any kind and has not been manipulated in Photoshop or any other graphics program.
'It's an original photo of a man who lived in Bristol, TN, sometime around the Civil War.'
It is believed the photo was taken by a confederate Civil War prisoner of war photographer called Professor G.B. Smith.
Mr Mörd joked that Nicholas Cage could be a walking undead man who reinvents himself once every 75 years - and might be looking at going into politics or talk show hosting next.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038580/Nicholas-Cages-Civil-War-doppelganger-photo-posted-eBay-1million.html#ixzz1YIxWEdND |
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