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PostPosted: 16-11-2013 23:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warlingham well body-find leads to seven arrests

Seven people have been arrested on suspicion of murder after a body was found in a well in south London.
Police were called to a private property in Audley Drive, Warlingham, on the Surrey border, at about 13:50 GMT on Friday.

A marine diving team has removed the body from the well and a post mortem examination is due to take place on Sunday.
Police said the body was white and its size suggested it was an adult.

The Met Police said the body, whose gender cannot yet be determined, was found by gardeners who were doing clearing work at the large house, which is situated in a cul-de-sac.
Det Ch Insp Cliff Lyons said: "It is a murder investigation.
"As far as I am concerned, when a body is found in a well, it either fell in there, or was placed in there, and the evidence is apparent that the body was placed in there.
"The well is two feet in diameter, it is seven feet deep to the water line, and the water is approximately four feet deep."

Det Ch Insp Lyons asked anyone with information or who has concerns about a missing person to contact the police and said the body had been there "for a matter of weeks".

Asked about claims by local residents there had been trouble at the house in the past couple of years and police had been called on numerous occasions, Mr Lyons said: "The residents have expressed concern, there is intelligence to support that notion, yes."

A local resident, who did not want to be named, said: "It is really shocking. You do not expect it here. It is a really quiet well-to-do area."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24966496

I read an earlier version of this story this morning, with fewer details. The fact that it has led to seven arrests is quite a surprise.
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PostPosted: 17-11-2013 01:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

"It is a really quiet well-to-do area."

More a well-to-avoid really. Sad
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PostPosted: 18-11-2013 08:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warlingham well body: Teenager's shock at finding body

A teenage boy who found a man's body in a well at a home in south London has said he has found it difficult to sleep since finding it.
Jack Duncan, 17, found the body with his friend Rory Mulholland, 21, at the home in Audley Drive in Warlingham, on the Surrey border, on Friday afternoon.
He said it had been really hard to sleep knowing that he had found it.

Seven men aged between 21 and 27 were arrested on suspicion of murder but have since been released on bail.
They have been released until December, pending further inquiries.
Police said the body was that of a white male although inquiries continue to try and establish the identity of the deceased.

An initial post-mortem examination did not prove conclusive in providing a cause of death and further tests will be carried out.
But police said the examination did reveal injuries to the body consistent with an assault.
Specialist police divers took several hours to retrieve the body from the water which is about 4ft deep (1.2m).

Mr Duncan and Mr Mulholland said they had been asked to tidy the well out.
Mr Duncan told BBC London News that when they cleared the roses and brambles out, they saw a slab over the top of the well.
"At first I thought the well was at ground level, I thought it was ornamental - I didn't think there was a drop in it," said Mr Mulholland.

"When we pulled up the slab we realised that there was a big drop and we saw a blue tarpaulin.
"At first we thought it was rubbish dumped, so we had a good look around and started moving it, and we slowly came to realise that it was in the shape of a body. It had legs."

Mr Duncan said: "It's been really hard to get back to sleep the last couple of nights knowing that you found a dead body. It's just been there, you don't know how long it's been there.
"I'm never going to look down a well again."

His friend added: "Any time anyone mentions it, it makes me feel a bit shaken inside. I've got butterflies.
"I'm worse today than I was yesterday. I'm just a bit shaken up."

Det Ch Insp Cliff Lyons, who is leading the investigation, said: "This is an unusual case and I would appeal for anybody who has concerns about a missing person, or who believes they may know something about this individual or incident, to call my officers.

"The post mortem examination has revealed this person, who we now know is a white male, suffered injuries before being placed into the well. We are treating the incident as a murder."

When asked at a press conference about claims by residents there had been trouble at the house in the past couple of years and police had been called on numerous occasions, Mr Lyons said: "The residents have expressed concern, there is intelligence to support that notion, yes."
He would not comment on who had lived in the house or if the body was intact.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24979959
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PostPosted: 19-11-2013 08:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Body in Warlingham well: Victim had been tied up

A man found dead in a well had been tied up and his body left there for about two years, police have said.
The body was discovered by workmen at a home in Audley Drive, Warlingham, south London, on Friday.

Post-mortem tests proved inconclusive but detectives say the victim was a white man who had been assaulted.
The incident is being treated as murder and forensic work at the site, on the Surrey border, will continue for about a month.

Det Ch Insp Cliff Lyons said officers were reviewing missing person reports to try to establish the man's identity.
"This is someone's son and my team owe it to him and his family to find out the truth and bring those who committed this atrocious act to justice," he said.

Asked if he thought the man was dead before being put in the well, Mr Lyons said there was "every indication" that was the case.
Specialist police divers took several hours to retrieve the body on Saturday from the water, which is about 4ft (1.2m) deep .

The investigation has so far seen the well, where the body was found, partly demolished and water taken away for forensic examination.
Mr Lyons said: "The water has lots of insect larvae, property that may have fallen into the well, skin deposits etc that may offer opportunities for forensics and for identification."

Seven men aged between 21 and 27 who were arrested on suspicion of murder have been bailed until a date in late December, pending further investigations.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24998049
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PostPosted: 19-11-2013 14:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seemingly, not a particularly strange death, when first reported back in 2009. Although, a smashing wee actress died far, far, too young.
gncxx wrote:
[http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=935332&highlight=brittany+murphy#935332]

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1320994/

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Brittany Murphy died of cardiac arrest early Sunday morning, according to a report by TMZ. The actress was 32. It is reported that a call went out to 911 from her Los Angeles home at 8 a.m. Attempts to revive her were not successful, and she was pronounced dead upon arrival at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. In addition to The White Hotel and Clueless, the Atlanta-born Murphy costarred in 8 Mile and Riding in Cars with Boys. In May of 2007, she married British writer-director Simon Monjack. …


Bloody hell.

Since then, there have been disturbing developments.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/brittany-murphy-cause-of-death-toxicology-test-suggests-star-may-have-been-poisoned-with-criminal-intent-8949289.html

Brittany Murphy cause of death: Toxicology test suggests star may have been poisoned 'with criminal intent'

High levels of ten heavy metals were detected in the actress' tissue samples

The Independent. Jess Denham. 19 November 2013


Brittany Murphy may have been poisoned "with likely criminal intent" according to a new toxicologist report.

Lab reports conducted by the Carlson Company in Colorado detected 10 heavy metals at abnormal levels in tissue samples, stating that "exposure to metals administered by a third party perpetrator with likely criminal intent" was a possible explanation for Murphy's sudden death.

A coroner originally attributed her death in 2009 to drug intoxication, pneumonia and anaemia, but the late star's father requested further toxicology tests when the autopsy revealed unusually high levels of heavy metals.

A verdict of death by accidental and natural causes was given at the time.

The actress' husband, British screenwriter Simon Monjack, was found dead just five months after Murphy, with pneumonia and anaemia named as the cause.

Angelo Bertolotti, Murphy's father, sued the coroner's office to obtain his daughter's physical samples for independent testing after it admitted her body had not tested for poisonous substances.

Murphy's father said he was determined to debunk "vicious rumours" spread by the press about his daughter's lifestyle, which stemmed from the original autopsy.

"My daughter was neither anorexic not a drug junkie, as they repeatedly implied," he told The Examiner. "I will not rest until the truth about these tragic events is told. There will be justice for Brittany."

Bertolotti recently alleged in an interview with Fleur De Lis Film Studios that Murphy was under surveillance from the government after openly supporting the Department of Homeland Security whistleblower Julia Davis.

Heavy metals are commonly found in chemicals used to kill rodents and insects, with symptoms including headaches, abdominal cramps, tremors, disorientation, congestion and pneumonia.

There are no further plans to reopen the inquiry.

Chief Coroner Investigator Craig R Harvey said: "The Los Angeles County Department of Medical Examiner-Coroner has no plans to reopen our inquiry into the deaths. We stand by our original reports.

"We have not been presented with any [third] party lab test results for analysis, so we are unable to comment on publicised reports of private lab tests."

Bloody hell, indeed. Where's Hercule Poirot, or Miss Marple, when they're really needed? Sad
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PostPosted: 19-11-2013 18:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jessica Fletcher is most appropriate, maybe. It's pretty bad that they have no plans to reopen the inquiry now Brittany seems to have been killed with rat poison or something similar. She seemed like a lovely girl, who would want to do that to her?
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PostPosted: 19-11-2013 20:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible that Simon Monjack's health may have been impaired in the same way. I wonder if they tested him for heavy metal poisoning too?
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PostPosted: 30-11-2013 09:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Body in Warlingham well: Victim had been tied up

A man found dead in a well had been tied up and his body left there for about two years, police have said.
The body was discovered by workmen at a home in Audley Drive, Warlingham, south London, on Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24998049


Body in Warlingham well identified as Damian Chlywka

A man whose bound body was found in a well in south London has been identified by police.
Damian Chlywka, a Polish national born in 1981, is believed to have been in the well in Audley Drive, Warlingham, for two years.
Two men, aged 41 and 33, were arrested on suspicion of his murder on Friday.
Seven men, aged between 21 and 27, who were previously arrested on suspicion of murder, remain on police bail.

Det Ch Insp Cliff Lyons, of the Metropolitan Police, said: "Damian had lived at various addresses across London including two known to be in the Croydon area.
"At one point he had lived at 11A Audley Road. Our focus now is to build up a fuller picture of Damian's life in the UK.
"We have given the difficult and heartbreaking news to his family who are distraught that this has happened to their loved one.

"I am appealing to anyone who knew or previously worked with him to contact the police and help us to piece together a picture of Damian's life and how it came to end in these distressing circumstances."

Mr Chlywka's body was found by workmen on 15 November. Police said his body had suffered injuries consistent with an assault, prior to being placed in the well.
A post-mortem examination did not provide a cause of death and further tests are being carried out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25165251
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PostPosted: 10-12-2013 04:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christmas is taking its toll already...

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Harassed boyfriend jumped to his death after his girlfriend insisted on going into another clothes shop


A man jumped to his death after a furious row with his girlfriend who insisted they go into another clothes shop.

CCTV shows Tao Hsiao, 38, escorting his girlfriend around a shopping mall in Xuzhou, Jiangsu
province, east China.

After five hours Tao finally had enough and demanded to go home.

An eyewitness said: 'He told her she already had enough shoes, more shoes that she could wear in a
lifetime and it was pointless buying any more.

'She started shouting at him accusing him of being a skinflint and of spoiling Christmas, it was a really heated argument.'

The shouting match ended when the man chucked the bags on the floor and jumped over the balcony, smashing into Christmas decorations on his way down before hitting the floor seven stories below causing shocked shoppers to flee in panic.

Emergency services arrived at the scene but Tao was killed immediately from the impact of the fall.

A shopping spokesman said: 'His body was removed fairly quickly.

'He actually landed on one of the stalls below and then fell to the floor so although the store was damaged it meant he didn't hit anybody.

'This is a tragic incident, but this time of year can be very stressful for many people.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2520753/Chinese-boyfriend-jumped-death-girlfriend-insisted-going-clothes-shop.html

Then again, he could have just dumped her...
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PostPosted: 10-12-2013 09:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

He could have told her to shoo.
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PostPosted: 10-12-2013 11:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, simpler to have dumped her. But I suspect he had other issues, and the non-stop arguing and shopping was just the last straw.
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True, it's usually a last-straw thing. A forbear of mine in the mid-19th century, a farmer, had an argument with his wife at the breakfast table about lumpy porridge and then walked out and drowned himself in the farm pond.

It's one of those family stories that have you shaking your head. confused
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Farmers, no pleasing them.
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PostPosted: 10-12-2013 14:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

escargot1 wrote:
True, it's usually a last-straw thing. A forbear of mine in the mid-19th century, a farmer, had an argument with his wife at the breakfast table about lumpy porridge and then walked out and drowned himself in the farm pond.

It's one of those family stories that have you shaking your head. confused

My great grandfather (around 1911, I believe) also drowned himself in the farm pond (after he lost his job though). The pond was only four inches deep, so he laid face down in it.
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Fluttermoth wrote:
escargot1 wrote:
True, it's usually a last-straw thing. A forbear of mine in the mid-19th century, a farmer, had an argument with his wife at the breakfast table about lumpy porridge and then walked out and drowned himself in the farm pond.

It's one of those family stories that have you shaking your head. confused

My great grandfather (around 1911, I believe) also drowned himself in the farm pond (after he lost his job though). The pond was only four inches deep, so he laid face down in it.


Shocked

Wow. Really? How can you hold yourself like that until you expire? Must be severely bad times Sad
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