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JamesWhitehead Piffle Prospector Joined: 02 Aug 2001 Total posts: 5779 Location: Manchester, UK Gender: Male |
Posted: 07-08-2006 16:36 Post subject: |
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The antinomian question produced a few answers but the earlier one as to who on earth Amado Crowley might be seems to have been forgotten.
The name rang no bells with me and it does not appear in the index of John Symonds' Crowley biography, The Great Beast.
Someone claiming to be the illigitimate son of Crowley - how sad is that! - has a website here:
http://www.amado-crowley.net/
He appears to be seeking disciples and I wonder how many air-headed thrill-seeking socialites there are to support such a venture, now that narcotics and kinky sex are available cheaply without all that horrible poetry.
This review of "Amado's" shoddy printed effort is illuminating:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/7069/amado.html
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escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17895 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 4 Gender: Female |
Posted: 08-08-2006 13:20 Post subject: |
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Curse you, James! I wasted a good hour laughing at those links!  |
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JamesWhitehead Piffle Prospector Joined: 02 Aug 2001 Total posts: 5779 Location: Manchester, UK Gender: Male |
Posted: 09-08-2006 12:09 Post subject: |
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By curses we grow stronger!
More Guru Fun follows . . .
Guru-rating service:
http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Ratings.htm
Amado Crowley alias Andrew Standish is rated on this page as deluded but not dangerous:
http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Fcrowley.htm
The gurus are rated not by stars but by "buds" which look like throbbing pink nipples!
This massive cult-resource is more serious:
http://www.rickross.com/sg_alpha.html
Dig deep enough and you can learn the answer to such fascinating questions as
Which boring Coronation Street actor used to be a Druid and
Who is the Guru of choice for his nutty son?  |
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escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17895 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 4 Gender: Female |
Posted: 09-08-2006 12:42 Post subject: |
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*writes off rest of day*
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skinny46 Doesnt believe in the Yeti Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Total posts: 93 Location: The Town of Machine, SA Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 06-11-2006 09:19 Post subject: |
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| theyithian wrote: | | Heckler20 wrote: | | MaxMolyneux wrote: |
Did Crowley own a bookshop? |
No but Jimmy Page did..... |
Sorry, my post wasn't at all clear. Mr page owned a bookshop that did one or two reprints of Crowley texts. If you google for Page Crowley Anger Boleskine there's several sites to give you the lowdown. |
YouTube can be a goldmine. Aleister Crowley: Boleskine House
| theyithian wrote: | | (Page was the first to start a soundtrack for Lucifer Rising. Bowie is also a one-time Thelemite. |
I have a biography on Bowie that describes a meeting between Bowie and Page in one of Bowie's girlfriends' 5th floor flat (around 1973 I think - I can't find the book, so memory has to serve). They stared each other down in a battle of wills for a number of minutes until Page broke it off mentioning he had to leave as he had more important things to do whereupon Bowie suggested he take the window. hissssssssssss  |
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mayhawk93 Grey Joined: 21 May 2006 Total posts: 2 Location: Blackburn UK Gender: Male |
Posted: 06-11-2006 14:28 Post subject: YouTube goldmine... |
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| Well it is until Google remove all copyrighted material (i.e. 90% of anything worth watching on it!!) any time now. Check out Kenneth Anger's 'Lucifer Rising' (3 parts) & 'Invocation of My Demon Brother' - complete with Mick Jagger proto-Killing Joke Moog soundtrack - before it's too late.... |
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
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theyithian Keeping the British end up
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Total posts: 11704 Location: Vermilion Sands Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 24-08-2008 19:20 Post subject: |
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| Spookdaddy wrote: | | The Yitthian wrote: |
I'm quite interested in looking at this tale more closely - have you got a reference for it please? Is it also in London's Secret History or perhaps a Dylan Thomas biography?? |
Yep. Both stories are from the same book. The only detail I didn't repeat is that the pub that the first incident was supposed to have occured in was the Coal Hole public house on The Strand. |
Was there last night. Much better crowd than in the week. Here's an online source:
| Quote: | The poet, Dylan Thomas, sometimes visited the Yorkshire Grey on his visits to London. [He hated the metropolis, which he called 'the capital punishment'.] One night, it is said, he was sitting at a table in the Yorkshire Grey when he became aware of the black magician Aleister Crowley, sitting at the other end of the room and staring at him Intently. Both men were doodling on beer mats. As he left, Crowley slipped his mat on to Dylanís table, doodle side down. This so unnerved 'the Rimbaud of Cwmdonkin Driveí that It was an hour before he was able to turn it over. When he did so he discovered an exact replica of his own doodle. An alternative venue for this story - which Dylan always claimed to be entirely true - is sometimes given as the Coal Hole pub in the Strand.
http://www.ajbrowne.com/html/york_history.html |
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Posted: 24-08-2008 21:43 Post subject: |
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OK Jimmy Page / Crowley/ / Olympics 2008 will bring this to the top again.
Me, I live in Hastings and knew a certain spot as the black pool. It was an un adopted road that led to a wierd pitch black pool. It was a right of passage (among my crowd) to face it at night.
I admit to a certain amount of bad luck having anything to do with it.
Only recently do I understand the link to Crowleys last years.
Write him off as a hedonistic , progressive fool if you want, but he was more than that. |
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Kudos15 Yeti Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Total posts: 36 Location: Hornchurch Age: 39 Gender: Female |
Posted: 13-09-2008 15:12 Post subject: |
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Removed for limited memory. Managed to name the wrong person 
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_Lizard23_ In love with the Great Old One Joined: 23 Aug 2001 Total posts: 1914 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 13-09-2008 16:40 Post subject: |
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Crowley and Hubbard in sex magic(k) workings together? Hubbard stealing Crowley's woman? "Crowley's Satanic Cross"?
Don't think so.
As I understand it, Crowley put Parsons in charge of a lodge, Parsons and Hubbard were inolved together in the Babalon working, Crowley wrote Moonchild (a work of fiction) on a similar theme, Hubbard ran off with Parsons' missus and money ... all fairly well known and well documented (probably even in this thread and certainly in previous articles in FT) but a bit different from your version.
Googling 'Crowley's Satanic Cross' and Scientology brings up some business about Scientology's cross being taken from what is actually the Golden Dawn Rose Cross Lamen - possible I suppose, but nothing to do with Crowley or Satan. Sorry. |
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_TMS_ profane, harsh, unharmonious Great Old One Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Total posts: 748 Location: Kusinagara Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 13-01-2009 13:41 Post subject: |
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I received as a saturnalia present, from my bro, "The confessions of Aleister Crowley; an autohagiography". It's the 1979 OOP version, and cost a pretty penny but it is totally dreamy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Confessions_of_Aleister_Crowley
I've mentioned before i like his non-magick (i'll put the k in because i'm talking specifically about him, in all other cases i studiously avoid it) writings and think "diary of a drug fiend" is on a par with Sade's "120 days of sodom" for pure comic genius but this book takes it to another level. I was laughing out loud pretty much all night. Although i've only got to his latter school days, i already feel like i'm more aware of his cohesive thelemic revelation than all my dry readings of BOTL, MWOT could muster. And at the same time read him talking about a "grudging reconciliation" with his uncle that they went to live with after his father's death, and what for him constitutes "a grudging reconciliation" , makes him come to life as a person more than ever before.
So, if you have a genuine interest in the great beast, from a hypothetical or practical standpoint i entreat you to go out a find this book. I will post a couple of quotes when i get a chance!
On Climate Change (1910)
"I am convinced that the earth is slowly losing its water and that this explains what one sees in the Mediterranean basin, without assuming catastrophic changes in the earth's crust. We know the glaciers are generally retreating. We know that in the time of Horace snow fell heavily and lay long in the Roman winter."
On the dangers of magic(k)
"The penalties of wrong-doing are applied not by the deliberate act of the Chiefs of the order; they occur in the natural course of events. I should not even care to say that these events were arranged by the Secret Chiefs. The method, if I understand it correctly, may perhaps be illustrated by an analogy. Suppose that I had been warned by Eckenstein always to test the firmness of a rock before trusting my weight to it. I neglect this instruction. It is quite unnecessary for Eckenstein to go all over the world and put unreliable rocks in my way -- they are there; and I shall come across them almost every time I go out climbing, and come to more or less grief whenever I meet them. In the same way, if I omit some magical precaution, or make some magical blunder, my own weakness will punish me whenever the circumstances determine the appropriate issue."
"It may be said that this doctrine is not a matter of Magick but of common sense. True, but Magick is common sense. What, then, is the difference between the Magician and the ordinary man? This, that the Magician has demanded that nature shall be for him a phenomenal mode of expressing his spiritual reality, The circumstances, therefore, of his life are uniformly adapted to his work."
On his poetry
A lot's been said about his poetic works on this thread. I submit an excerpt from his work "Rose Decidua", written to deal with his divorce to the dipsomaniac Rose Kelly. It might just be my taste, but i think its great.
This is no tragedy of little tears.
My brain is hard and cold; there is no beat
Of its blood; there is no heat
Of sacred fire upon my lips to sing.
My heart is dead; I say that name thrice over;
Rose! --- Rose! --- Rose! ---
Even as lover should call to lover;
There is no quickening,
No flood, no fount that flows;
No water wells from the dead spring.
My thoughts come singly, dry, contemptuous,
Too cold for hate; all I can say is that they come
From some dead sphere without me;
Singly they come, beats of a senseless drum
Jarred by a fool, harsh, unharmonious.
An account of the magical retirement of C.F. Russell
"...I wish I had a copy of his Magical Record of this Retirement. It was an incoherent scrawl of furious ravings mostly aimed against the innocent Jones (Jesus Stansfield Christ was his favourite brickbat) in Chicago. I have no idea what excited such animosity. His magical work was chiefly to count the loose stones of the floor of his hut, and divine from their number the most erratic nonsense which seemed to him the sublime arcana of Grades so exalted that a mere Magus was in comparison one poor pip of a China orange to all Lombard Street and the City of London to boot. For a magical wand, he had picked up a piece of dry stick which he chewed incessantly under the impression that by so doing he was putting the affairs of the planet in shape during such moments as he could spare from adjusting the solar system and showing the gods how to run the universe, any recalcitrant deity being ruthlessly smacked into repentance.
Cypris begged me to intervene, urging that he was irresponsible. She said she felt sure that he would come down if I wrote to him to do so. I consented. That day after lunch, as I lay half asleep on a couch by the main door, Godwin rushed in. His appearance really alarmed me; unshaven, unwashed, his movements violent and jerky and his eyes rolling wildly, I should not have mistaken him for the Prince of Wales. He flung a rucksack on the floor at my feet and roared out "Aleister Crowley" in a harsh, angry, uneven growl. He then went off as suddenly and strangely as he had come."
Oh and here's a treat, his confessions in html format:
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/confess/ |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 19-04-2009 11:32 Post subject: |
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For sale on Loch Ness: Aleister Crowley's centre of dark sorcery
Plot once owned by satanist Aleister Crowley 'perfect for a holiday cottage'
Paul Kelbie The Observer, Sunday 19 April 2009
A plot of land once owned by the self-proclaimed "most wicked man in the world" has been put up for sale, attracting interest from rock stars, developers and disciples of the dark arts.
Boleskine Bay, on Loch Ness at Foyers, was part of an estate renowned at the start of the 20th century as "a centre of black magic, evil and sorcery" under the ownership and influence of satanist Aleister Crowley.
The "Beast of Boleskine", who died in 1947, owned Boleskine Estate between 1899 and 1913, during which time he tried to smother the Highlands in black magic by coaxing out the forces of evil.
The estate, once the home of millionaire rock star Jimmy Page, has been linked to a number of incidents over the years, including at least two violent deaths.
As well as black magic rituals to invoke the four princes of evil, Crowley and his devil-worshipping followers used the estate to make talismans and offered animal sacrifices to Satan.
"The demons and evil forces had congregated round me so thickly that they were shutting off the light. It was a comforting situation. There could be no more doubt of the efficiency of the operation," Crowley wrote of his experiments at the estate.
Now, a 1.9-acre plot on the former estate has been put on the market for £176,000 with planning permission for a three-bedroom log house, and 140ft of the Loch Ness foreshore.
"There's been a great deal of interest in the plot because of the Crowley connection. We've had various enquiries from all over the place. People do tend to be interested in things that are sinister, but we've also had enquiries from people who just want a base in the Highlands with some nice views over Loch Ness," said Kevin Maley, of Inverness agents Strutt and Parker.
"The house and plot are owned by different people. The plot has been in the same family for the last 40 years, but the owner has decided it's time to go. It's an unusual one in that it's being sold with planning permission for a log cabin in the middle of nowhere, but it would make a perfect holiday cottage," he said.
The estate agents' brochure claims the area is perfect for fishing, shooting and hunting, an activity also favoured by Crowley, who took his pack of bloodhounds on manhunts across the estate.
Crowley and his disciples used drugs, sex and blood sacrifices of goats and cats during debauched rituals. The black magician also took pleasure in the suffering that his sinister practices apparently brought to local villagers. He bragged about how an employee of the Boleskine estate got drunk one night - after 20 years of abstinence - and attempted to kill his wife and children.
The family of Crowley's lodge keeper, Hugh Gillies, also suffered a series of tragedies. First his 10-year-old daughter died suddenly at her school desk and a year later his 15-month-old son died of convulsions on his mother's knee.
Such is the reputation of the white-stoned home of sorcery that during his three years in residence, at the beginning of the 20th century, the villagers of Foyers avoided the estate at all costs.
Although Crowley died penniless in 1947, the years have not erased the memories of his association with the Scottish Highlands home. Visitors to the estate have reported seeing lights flashing on and off by themselves, windows shattering and a chair which belonged to Crowley moving on its own.
In 1960 the then owner of the house, Major Edward Grant, shot himself in the bedroom which had been used by Crowley for some of his satanic rituals.
Jimmy Page, in a 1975 interview, said: "The estate was owned by Aleister Crowley but there were two or three owners before Crowley moved into it. On the site of the house there was also once a church that burned to the ground with the congregation inside."
He said: "Strange things have happened in that house which have nothing to do with Crowley. The bad vibes were already there."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/19/boleskin-bay-sale-satanism |
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_TMS_ profane, harsh, unharmonious Great Old One Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Total posts: 748 Location: Kusinagara Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 20-04-2009 11:58 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | For sale on Loch Ness: Aleister Crowley's centre of dark sorcery
...As well as black magic rituals to invoke the four princes of evil, Crowley and his devil-worshipping followers used the estate to make talismans and offered animal sacrifices to Satan.
...Crowley and his disciples used drugs, sex and blood sacrifices of goats and cats during debauched rituals. |
It's the usual utter tosh from the newspapers as far as i know. His magical workings at Boleskin included his first ritual of Abra-Melin, requiring 6 months of solitary practice to invoke his Holy Gaurdian Angel. I didn't think his thelemic chums even used Boleskin, as by the later stages of his magic(k)al career, he was either using his London temples, or no temples at all, perfoming his rituals solely on the astral (magic(k)al) plain through visualisation alone. Obviously when he had declared the new Aeon, he was back to practical Magic(k), adopting his own unique take on the HoGD's rituals over at his Abbey of Thelema.
Would love anybody that knows better to put me right on that one tho.
He was quite pleased about his factor going mad tho', i think it appealed to his natural vanity that the energies he had employed in Boleskin were spreading their influence over the lesser minded inhabitants. |
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H_James Ancient Cow (&) Creepy thing Joined: 18 May 2002 Total posts: 5624 |
Posted: 20-04-2009 14:05 Post subject: |
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From what I've read, he often drove his underlings to despair by treating them like a total cnut.
The prose in that article is nearly as purple as Crowley's own. Devil worshippers, indeed. |
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