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thenumenorian Yeti Joined: 30 May 2009 Total posts: 80 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 11-06-2009 04:52 Post subject: |
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| "he was performing his ritual on the astral plain, thru visualization." translated that means "he sat around totally f****d up until he passed out." |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 09-11-2011 12:28 Post subject: |
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Were six deaths attributed to the 'Curse of Tutankhamun' actually murders by arch-satanist Aleister Crowley?
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 11:02 AM on 9th November 2011
The mysterious deaths gripped the nation back in the 1920s and 30s.
More than 20 people linked to the opening of Tutankhamun's burial chamber in Luxor in 1923 died in bizarre circumstances, six of them in London.
A frenzied public blamed the 'Curse of Tutankhamun' and speculated on the supernatural powers of the ancient Egyptians.
But a historian now claims the deaths in Britain were the work of a notorious satanist, Aleister Crowley.
Mark Beynon has drawn on previously unpublished evidence to conclude the occultist – dubbed the wickedest man in the world – masterminded a series of ritualistic killings in 'revenge' for the British archaeologist Howard Carter's opening of the boy-king's tomb.
After analysis of inquest reports, Crowley's diaries, essays and books, he also argues Crowley was a Jack the Ripper-obsessed copycat murderer.
His 'victims' included Carter's personal secretary Captain Richard Bethell, who was found smothered to death at an exclusive Mayfair club, and Bethell's father Lord Westbury, who plunged seven floors to his death from a St James's apartment where he reportedly kept tomb artefacts.
Other victims were said to be Sir Ernest Budge, a former keeper in the British Museum's department of Egyptian and Assyrian antiquities – found dead in his bed in Bloomsbury – and Ali Kamel Fahmy Bey, a 23-year-old Egyptian prince shot dead by his wife, Marie-Marguerite, in the Savoy Hotel shortly after he was photographed visiting King Tut's tomb.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059084/Were-Curse-Tutankhamun-deaths-actually-murders-arch-satanist-Aleister-Crowley.html#ixzz1dCrsGk3U |
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BlackRiverFalls I wear a fez now.
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Total posts: 8716 Location: The Attic of Blinky Lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
Posted: 09-11-2011 15:22 Post subject: |
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| Never got the impression Crowley could have given much of a crap about the living let alone dead egyptians, and that aside, he was close to broke by that era anyway so not particularly well resourced for that kind of thing, and otherwise engaged with his antics in Italy. |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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Posted: 09-11-2011 15:26 Post subject: |
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| It does seem a bit unlikely. Makings of a good novel, though. |
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Timble2 Imaginary person Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total posts: 7114 Location: Practically in Narnia Age: 58 Gender: Female |
Posted: 09-11-2011 15:57 Post subject: |
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What is this "Historian" on and where can I get some?
Wallis Budge; what's strange about a 77 year old chap dying in his sleep?
BTW Wallis Budge is mentioned in The Jewel of Seven Stars, by Bram Stoker so there's a connection that could be made the between Crowley and Dracula.
AA Milne and Aliester Crowley, both studied at Trinity College, Cambridge. They may even have overlapped...I've wondered whether a Winnie the Pooh Meets The Great Beast book would be feasible.
PM - the novel idea sound good, but let's hope that Dan Brown doesn't get to it first.... |
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emina Great Old One Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Total posts: 120 Location: Good Question Gender: Male |
Posted: 09-11-2011 18:32 Post subject: |
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I especially like this bit:
'This was a man given to extensive world travel and yet we know he was in London when at least four of the six deaths occurred.'
It's a cast-iron case I tells ya!
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Ghostisfort Great Old One Joined: 04 Jul 2009 Total posts: 770 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: 13-11-2011 17:29 Post subject: |
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Missed this thread at the time.
Just to put the record straight: Aleister Crowley was certainly not a Satanist.
Ideas about Hell, and Satan being the Devil are of Judeo-Christian origin and Crowley being opposed to all things Christian would have avoided them like a plague. This is without mentioning that his father was a fanatical preacher who Crowley seems to have gone out of his way to defy.
Having said that, the press of the time dubbed him "The most wicked man in the world" and a Satanist. Crowley loved the publicity as he wanted to sell his books and said nothing.
People who practice ritual magic, like Crowley and the famous Hellfire Club, do not practice Satanism in any shape or form. It's usually a cover for what's really going on. Ritual magic involves sexual rites that Crowley was certainly involved in. These would have caused much more of an outcry by the press and at the time would probably have involved legal intervention. | Quote: | Sex magic is a term for various types of sexual activity used in magical, ritualistic or otherwise religious and spiritual pursuits. One practice of sex magic is using the energy of sexual arousal or orgasm with visualization of a desired result. A premise of sex magic is the concept that sexual energy is a potent force that can be harnessed to transcend one's normally perceived reality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_magic
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smokehead Great Old One Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Total posts: 262 Location: West Midlands. Age: 52 Gender: Male |
Posted: 12-02-2013 16:21 Post subject: |
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I've actually learned something from this thread, which of course is totally unacceptable.
Masturbation as murder, interesting idea and may help explain why Annie Besant 'A.B' in Moonchild is accused of foul murder, although I have read that she promoted birth control via contraception over abortion.
I don't know what Edward Berridge 'Balloch' said at the court case to upset Crowley, but he gets a good savaging, it's interesting that Berridge was a homeopathist, and relatively speaking amongst the company he kept, something of an odd duck.
I've been picking away at the coincidence of the founding of the Golden Dawn with the Jack the Ripper murders for a while now, but a lay, literalist approach to Crowley's writing is unproductive without a full understanding of the man and all his works, which I now see.
There is a quote from the Jewish encylopiea on Wiki which goes something like 'The Kabbalah turns our young men into mystics and dreamers, who angels and demons everywhere'
This is interesting in as much that speculation on the influence of the Kabbalah on a paranoid schizophrenic like Aaron Kosminski may finally reveal a motive, particularly the demoness Lilith and the four angels of sacred prostitution, possible manifestations of Lilith, perhaps corresponding to the four cardinal points of the murdera.
Of course, any research into Kabbalah in the 19th century leads straight to the Golden Dawn, and eventually to Berridge, another possible line of enquiry.
If Crowley was implying that Berridge had carried out abortions, perhaps through prescribing abortificents, it does put him in the same city as another JTR suspect, Francis Tumblety, and that's interesting, particularly in the light of the 'murder' of Emma Smith, who could have died from an attempt at self inflicted abortion, common enough at that time, a little research also shows that homeopathic abortificents do not always expel the fetus.
Casebook generally doesn't do occult, but the lack of interest in my posts were down to my own pig ignorance and poor understanding and even poorer presentation of the material.
Thanks guys, your posts have been truly enlightening. |
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smokehead Great Old One Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Total posts: 262 Location: West Midlands. Age: 52 Gender: Male |
Posted: 12-02-2013 16:24 Post subject: |
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Should be see angels etc
Murders not murdera, I can't type to save my life sorry. |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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Posted: 12-02-2013 19:47 Post subject: |
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Listening to my MP3 player on random, whilst clicking on this thread. Up pops, Sympathy for the Devil.
Lightening strikes! |
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OneWingedBird Great Old One Joined: 19 Nov 2012 Total posts: 542 Location: Attice of blinkey lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
Posted: 16-02-2013 14:34 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | AA Milne and Aliester Crowley, both studied at Trinity College, Cambridge. They may even have overlapped...I've wondered whether a Winnie the Pooh Meets The Great Beast book would be feasible. |
Crowley and Carroll/Charles Dodgson overlapped to some degree too, at least enough that a young Crowley could have met an aged Carroll... and both enormous fans of chess. |
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escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17895 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 4 Gender: Female |
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JamesWhitehead Piffle Prospector Joined: 02 Aug 2001 Total posts: 5779 Location: Manchester, UK Gender: Male |
Posted: 06-04-2013 20:12 Post subject: |
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Any story to go with that, escargot?  |
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escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17895 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 4 Gender: Female |
Posted: 06-04-2013 21:38 Post subject: |
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It's linked to this - The Satanic Roots of Rock
| Quote: | Today, at almost any "heavy-metal'' rock concert one can hear the audience being exhorted to rape and murder in the name of Satan. Lyrics such as the following are typical:
"We come bursting through your bodies
Rape your helpless soul
Transform you into a creature
Merciless and cold
We force you to kill your brother
Eat his blood and brain
Shredding flesh and sucking bone
Till everyone's insane
We are pestilent and contaminate
The world Demonic legions prevail"
Any loving parent today would be horrified and shocked to learn that their sons and daughters are eagerly listening to such evil. Perhaps though, some may think privately, "If only we could return to the 'good old days,' with the music of the Beatles." Little do most people suspect that it was with those innocent-looking Beatles, that most of the trouble started. |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 21365 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 06-04-2013 21:52 Post subject: |
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Well, bugger me, I was a Beatles fan back then, but I totally missed the message!
I even had two copies of Sgt Pepper vinyl at different times. And I have the CD version now!
Does this make me a bad person?!  |
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