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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 05:25    Post subject: stargate conspiracy - wot u reckon? Reply with quote

anyone read the stargate conspiracy by lynne picknet and clive prince? is the whole alien/new age thing just a means of controlling peoples minds? wot u reckon?
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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 05:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did see it at the time it came out but passed on it as I was tired of pyramids Wink

Soooooo question is - what do you think of it?

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The Stargate Conspiracy
Lynn Picknett, Clive Prince (2000)

www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0751529966/revenantmagaz-21

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Over the last few years there has been an explosion of books rewriting archaeology, history and religion. Some focus on new interpretations of the life and teachings of Jesus, others on the Templars and Freemasons, and yet others on ancient monuments such as the pyramids of Egypt. In most cases some secret doctrine is unveiled: esoteric teachings going back to the dawn of time, preserved in "impossible-to-build" buildings, mythology or ritual, and now revealed by the intrepid researchers.

Picknett and Prince, who have written their own share of such books (In His Own Image: The Story of the Turin Shroud and The Templar Revelation: Secret Guardians of the True Identity of Christ) now take their turn at debunking books on the pyramids, early extraterrestrial contact with mankind, the "Face" and "pyramids" on Mars, and the claimed significance of the year 10,500 BC. Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval and Robert Temple come in for particular criticism, with Picknett and Prince pointing out some of their factual errors as well as examples of sloppy logical progression in their arguments.

But this is only the beginning of their book. The authors summon large amounts of evidence to argue that behind such modern authors on the pyramids and Mars there might lie a hidden agenda, involving channelled messages from the Ennead, the nine major gods of Egypt; a wide range of parapsychologists and scientists, including some from NASA; the defence and intelligence communities; and even some politicians. The nine gods may or may not be real, they say, and channelling might simply come from the subconscious, though they accept phenomena such as Remote Viewing as entirely real.

Whether their worrying conclusions are valid or whether they have simply come up with another conspiracy theory, Picknett and Prince's book is not only controversial but thought-provoking too. --David V Barrett
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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 11:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the authors crib all that from the film and TV series? I wish I had thought of that ... that's an easy way to do research for a book. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 13:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ennead? 'B' grade SF aliens, must be...
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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 15:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunsplash1 wrote:
The Ennead? 'B' grade SF aliens, must be...


Well Ennead is the accepted Egyptological term for the nine major gods in early polytheistic Egypt, it's from the Greek, enneas, meaning a group of nine.
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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 15:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

no time for a long reply. sorry. but, it was not so much the pyramid angle that provoked my interest but the notion that the ancient astronaut/we were seeded by aliens/these aliens are the ennead of nine egyptian gods/they are going to return and usher in the new age etc is just a ruse developed as an exercise in mind control and therefore not real did seem fairly interesting, although i cant say conclusive.

just wondered wot other people thought. like i say, the jury's still out with me.
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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 17:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah, and they recokon whitley streiber's in on it. as is graham hancock et al. either that or they've been duped.

arguably the best bit of the book imho is the stuff about a shamanic explanation for the Egyptian Gods, the Egyptians' ability to build the pyramids and the dogon's supposed knowledge of sirius b.

like i say, the jury's still out with me but its quite a thought-provoking book, albeit the only one of theirs i've read. every review i've read of their other books have been somewhat critical to say the least, although thay's not why i haven't read any.
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PostPosted: 07-02-2006 17:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

incidentally, recokon really is a word.



a mispelt one.
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PostPosted: 08-02-2006 00:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't read this (but that's never stopped me from having an opinion...).

It seems to me, from my general impression of the history of the New-Age-ish-Alien-Genesis-Channeling-The-Space-Brothers thinking, that these beliefs have arisen and evolved spontaneously as a sort of folk religion. You can see the progression and gradual integration of ideas -Adamski, Seth Speaks, Chariots of the Gods.... But that they are certainly ripe for, and have been the target of, exploitation for purposes of mind control. Certainly charlatans and pseudo-religious figures, and probably Psy-Ops types.

30 years back I had some brushing contact with a "church" whose leader, a flamboyant and very charismatic cross-dresser, channelled the Space Brothers and convinced his congregation, who seemed mostly lower class and somewhat dim-witted, to give generously and often in order to help bring about the immenant - - new - - something or other. It was very strange stuff, talking in tongues etc, and these people were DEEPLY into it and CONVINCED of it. Sort of an early prototype for Heaven's Gate.
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