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PostPosted: 29-07-2010 07:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm moving to Newhaven next week, I'll keep an eye out for him.
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PostPosted: 03-05-2011 21:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've recently been reading about the whole Lord Lucan thing. It's very intriguing and compelling reading.

Regarding the murder itself, I'm not sure where I stand on it as there are many different theories out there. I do realise that most evidence pointed/points towards Lucan as the killer and thats the most likely explanation, and then theres the theory that it actually was an intruder in the house all along. But then I read an interesting theory that it was actually Lady Lucan that killed Sandra Rivett and she put the blame on Lord Lucan.

I find it incredibly weird that he just vanished into thin air, and there are the people that say he killed himself in the channel either using his own boat to go out into the channel or on the ferry, but as has been mentioned, if he attempted to drown himself in the channel or the north sea, his body would have washed up on the shore at some point. And the weight needed to keep his body down would have been too much for one person to lift.

I do think he escaped the country and was alive and maybe still is today. He went to South Africa, theres many things that seem to point to there as the place that he was/is residing, such as the guy that died in a motor accident in 1980 and Lucan's address being listed in his address book as Mozambique, then there are the Maxwell-Scott's who's names appeared in a South African hotel guest book.

What are your opinions of the whole Lord Lucan mystery? And do you think we will ever find out the truth?
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PostPosted: 04-11-2011 18:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, there's a letter in the latest FT and I'm not sure whether the writer is sincere or not, but he claims there were strong rumours that Lord Lucan actually swapped places with Colonel Gadaffi at the time he disappeared. Never heard that one before, anyone else?
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PostPosted: 04-11-2011 19:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

The version I heard, it was Sheargar he swapped with.
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PostPosted: 06-11-2011 14:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the theory that Marilyn Monroe's death was faked to cover up her replacing Fidel Castro as part of a CIA plot.
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PostPosted: 18-02-2012 10:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new lead:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17076512
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9089551/I-helped-Lord-Lucan-flee-justice-claims-personal-assistant-to-late-billionaire-John-Aspinall.html
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PostPosted: 18-02-2012 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Colonel Gadaffi was from Africa, sooo....

The consensus seems to be he evaded justice, and has now done so permanently by dying.
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PostPosted: 18-02-2012 21:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe this mainly because, if the creepy Aspinall & co. were able to raise so much money and pull so many strings for Lucan after he committed murder, and felt able to risk being accessories to that murder - a very serious offence - why didn't they help him out beforehand instead?

All they'd be doing by helping him was risk making things worse for everyone. If they'd cared that much about him and his family, surely they'd have stepped in sooner with some concrete advice and assistance.

Let's see some real evidence, and I'll happily eat my words.
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PostPosted: 19-02-2012 10:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they believed his story about an intruder? I'm not saying I do!
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The feeling I get though is that Aspinall & co. were seen as some kind of shadowy fixit squad for the misunderstood and erring aristocracy. They wouldn't care what Lucan had actually done: they'd protect him no matter what.

Bring on some evidence, I say! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19-02-2012 11:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

escargot1 wrote:
I don't believe this mainly because, if the creepy Aspinall & co. were able to raise so much money and pull so many strings for Lucan after he committed murder, and felt able to risk being accessories to that murder - a very serious offence - why didn't they help him out beforehand instead?

All they'd be doing by helping him was risk making things worse for everyone. If they'd cared that much about him and his family, surely they'd have stepped in sooner with some concrete advice and assistance.

Let's see some real evidence, and I'll happily eat my words.


Yes.

There doesn't seem to be any reason given as to why Aspinall and Goldsmith would go to so much trouble - apart from a rather vague suggestion that they were part of the same 'set'. It would be interesting to know how these characters were actually connected before the events in question.

And - cynic that I am - I have to admit that the fact that the two major players mentioned by name are recognisable characters does make me wonder: there would have been lots of individuals in 'society' who would have known Lucan and whose names would have not been familiar - the fact that the two mentioned are so well-known seems oddly convenient.
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PostPosted: 19-02-2012 13:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was some chap on R4 on Today who'd written a book aboutthe case, who reckoned that Aspinall and friends had actually bumped off Lucan, rather than protecting him, so he couldn't implicate a lot of rich and powerful people.

Well, Aspinall did have a zoo with lions and tigers, which would have provided a good way of diposing of a body...

Unless a body shows, up and someone credible confesses, I don't think they'll solve this one.
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PostPosted: 19-02-2012 21:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

A book I read, called Trail Of Havoc, suggests that Lucan borrowed a small boat from Aspinall and deliberately scuttled it in the Channel. A big problem with this idea is that it is purely speculation. Lucan would have been alone, so how would anyone know what he did?

Th suicide theory seems likely to me though, because Lucan could have been in a psychotic state when he attacked the nanny. (His wife says she fought him off by grabbing his testicles, which can't have improved his mood.)

Many suicides are believed to be in a psychotic state at the time of their deaths and they can be dangerous to other people. True, if Lucan did kill himself then it was a slightly unusual murder/suicide, in that he apparently intended to kill his wife rather than the nanny and get away with it, but if he were psychotic he wouldn't be thinking clearly anyway.

However, as we've already noted, there might be some real evidence out there to blow all these theories out of the water. Wink
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PostPosted: 21-02-2012 12:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a genuine mysery, in that we just don't know - and unless he involved someone else in his actions after his last communication we may well never know. If he comitted suicide at sea (even in Newhaven Harbour) if his body hasn't been found by now it is most unlikely it will ever be found.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2012 19:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Daily Mirror has an exclusive interview with Lord Lucan's son George.
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Exclusively in the Sunday Mirror tomorrow: What REALLY happened in horror house that night


So I suppose what the paper reveals today is a sort of trailer. You can read it here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/lord-lucan-son-george-bingham-1311717

There may be a few small nuggets there of interest to dedicated Lucanologists.
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