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PostPosted: 20-05-2005 13:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, dont forget that it was a family with 2 small children. The kid who first saw the creature was shaken up about it. Could be some dimented parents trying to scare the living crap out of their kids by hoaxing a flying, horned beast. But who has that kinda time? Smile
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PostPosted: 20-05-2005 19:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minor Drag wrote:
And what? Levitating up to and across the roof to make those tracks?


The house is only one story high so the tracks could have been made by a local wag on a stepladder with a dogs foot attached to a broom handle with duc tape playing a prank.

That is not however the most plausible explanation of the lot, I notice that another possible exlanation I gave, that it was an animal with a limp making the track, was ignored.

The scratches on the water cooler look like the sort that would be made by a dog with large claws scrabbleing to get perchace on it as it jumped from it.

looking at the track photo i got this:
http://img261.echo.cx/img261/8076/devilprints7wo.jpg


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PostPosted: 20-05-2005 20:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Human_84 wrote:
The kid who first saw the creature was shaken up about it. Could be some dimented parents trying to scare the living crap out of their kids by hoaxing a flying, horned beast.


i dont think that parents would do something like that to there kids. it would scare them too much. it could be a big cat, and that would explain the scratchs. what kind of big cats do you get in the area, anyway.
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PostPosted: 23-05-2005 13:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ yeah. If we follow the familys storey, then it couldn't have been a large cat, it was definetly a flying creature with huge footprints. They said it cleared the 85 foot space in mere seconds (a space between the treetops and the roof). I DO admit, that the family COULD have been liers, and even fooled their kids into beleiving that something huge with horns and "terrible eyes" flew across.

What do you all think about the possibility that the family hoaxed it and tricked their kids, just for some attention? I doubt it but its possible.
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PostPosted: 23-05-2005 19:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it could happen, but it's a lot of trouble of making the prints on the roof and the scratch marks. But yeah, there is always the possibility that it is a hoax with anything.
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PostPosted: 23-05-2005 21:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Human_84 wrote:
What do you all think about the possibility that the family hoaxed it and tricked their kids, just for some attention? I doubt it but its possible.


The parents may not have neaded to trick thir kids if it were a hoax (it could have been a misidentifaction, an overactive imagination coupled with shadows, zooform phenomina a genuine crypid or an outright lie, there are many possible explanations) then the kids could well be in on it. You can have 2 different kinds of hoax, one perpetrated by a lone hoaxer (Some bloke saying "I've seen a ghost" when they haven't for example) or a kind of team effort hoax where a few people who are in on the hoax and can colaborate the story (the Cottingley fairy photographs for example).


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PostPosted: 01-06-2005 14:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord_Flashheart wrote:
Minor Drag wrote:
And what? Levitating up to and across the roof to make those tracks?


The house is only one story high so the tracks could have been made by a local wag on a stepladder with a dogs foot attached to a broom handle with duc tape playing a prank.

That is not however the most plausible explanation of the lot, I notice that another possible exlanation I gave, that it was an animal with a limp making the track, was ignored.

The scratches on the water cooler look like the sort that would be made by a dog with large claws scrabbleing to get perchace on it as it jumped from it.

looking at the track photo i got this:
http://img261.echo.cx/img261/8076/devilprints7wo.jpg


Its in my opinion, that the right "toe" you pointed out isnt actually there. The "toe" you pointed out looks exactly like the rest of the snow on the roof. Now, look at some higher tracks. Theres an obvious 2 toed hoof in each one of those. Theres an absence of anything that could be considered a third toe. Even if it were 3 toes in your track, cats dont have feet like that. Look at some big cat prints....

cougar - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - bobcat - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - tiger
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/410328/2/Tracks_in_the_snow.jpg

http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/FP03.JPG

http://www.wildtrack.org/media/Sundarbans-Tiger.gif
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PostPosted: 12-06-2005 00:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devil Footprints? ".....smelled like singed hair...." "....the footprints are still there." photos of prints on carpet from coast to coast.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page448.html
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This is my favorite cryptid, so its worth posting that I dreamed about the thing last night, scary as hell. I've read so many stories about it that I beleive what I visualised in my dream is very close to the real thing. It was terrible, I awoke thinking it was so horrible that I shall never venture to find it even tho I had loose plans of visiting the area in the near future. In the light of the day I'm still interested. Not sure how, because it was an awful figure;seemingly real because it was a vivid dream, with horrible giant eyes and horns, a man-beast running at a quick rate of speed thru the pine trees, teathered wings flapping and the hoofs clomping about. Gives me the chills.
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PostPosted: 07-07-2005 22:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is my favorite cryptid, so its worth posting that I dreamed about the thing last night, scary as hell. I've read so many stories about it that I beleive what I visualised in my dream is very close to the real thing. It was terrible, I awoke thinking it was so horrible that I shall never venture to find it even tho I had loose plans of visiting the area in the near future. In the light of the day I'm still interested. Not sure how, because it was an awful figure;seemingly real because it was a vivid dream, with horrible giant eyes and horns, a man-beast running at a quick rate of speed thru the pine trees, teathered wings flapping and the hoofs clomping about. Gives me the chills.


Gives me the chills just reading about it...I'll prob dream about it tonight Shocked

JD is also one of my favourite cryptids...along with good old El Chupacabras...!!
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I was born and raised in tabernacle nj, smack in the middle of the pine barrens, camped every summer in chatsworth ( also in the pines) and spent a fair amount of time with various boyfriends in deerstands. Other then a few scary pineys ( local name for redknecks) and a few jersey jack stills, never saw anything to indicate the exsistence of the jersey devil. I am an avid fan of cryptozoology, but unfortunaly, i dont think this one is a reality. I lean towards the whole real estate scam theory. but, if i am wrong, i'll gladly eat my hat.
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PostPosted: 12-07-2005 14:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilemma29 wrote:
I lean towards the whole real estate scam theory.


Whats the real estate scam theory??
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Shortly before the legend of Mother leeds began to circulate, the pine barrens became a very hot realestate property . THe multiple underground streams with fresh water, the climate and the proximatey to the beach made it prime for commercialization. Fast forward to the present, because of the flora and fawna not found anywhere else but the pinebarrens of nj,it is protected from development. But, in the late 1800's early 1900's everyone wanted a piece of the land. Familes that had resided there for years were fearful of the encroachment on their farm land. Many court battles were fought. Then, the mother leeds story broke, a legend was born and superstitious surverors no longer wished to be out in the pines, which by the way is very dark and lonely, with lots of weird sounds to those that dont live there. Real estate dried up, no one was intereseted in building anymore and the rest is history. THere is a fantastic book called legends in the pines, that relays a good bit of the history with lots of historical documents to back it up. Well worth the read if you enjoy folktales, legends and a hint of cryptozoology.
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PostPosted: 22-07-2005 19:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds a great place.
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PostPosted: 04-11-2005 14:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I was in new jersey a couple months back, but didn't see any devil. I suppose he wouldn't come into the airport anyways.
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