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| Justin_Anstey Mutant alien |
 Posted: 07-03-2002 00:49 Post subject: Haunted pubs |
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You know, if we just went by local newspaper reports, it would seem that most ghosts prefer to haunt pubs.
How curious.
-Justin. |
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| rynner Location: Still above sea level Gender: Male |
| Posted: 07-03-2002 08:13 Post subject: |
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I have infested - er - investigated many pubs, and not seen or heard of a ghost in any of them.
I think I must be anti-psychic. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 07-03-2002 13:40 Post subject: |
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Of course you mind many spirits in a pub.
Were would you rather spend the rest of eternity? In a pub or some knackered old house in the middle of nowhere?  |
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FelixAntonius Outsider.
Great Old One Joined: 08 Aug 2001 Total posts: 1097 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 08-03-2002 01:02 Post subject: |
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In the next town to mine, a lot of people were seeing ABC's in the way home from the pub.
At least, that's what they were claiming to explain why a "swift half" lasted until closing time & why they had trouble standing straight.
The shock of the sighting a big cat???? |
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| Justin_Anstey Mutant alien |
| Posted: 13-04-2003 16:36 Post subject: Some recent local examples: |
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http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=74375&command=displayContent&sourceNode=73927&contentPK=3817383
| Quote: | GHOST OF THE CELLAR?
11:00 - 24 January 2003
He looks like a kindly gent from a Dickens novel, but yesterday local people claimed this portly apparition could be the reason things go bump in the night at a West pub.
His presence suggests as a picture was taken more than a century ago but believers say it is less than 30 years old.
Now a West ghostbuster wants to find who the figure is and how he came to be snapped in the cellars of a Ross-on-Wye pub.
Paranormal investigator Barry Fitzpatrick stumbled across the picture of the typical Victorian while investigating rumoured hauntings at the King Charles II pub. He believes the image could be genuine.
Stories about ghostly goings-on at the Broad Street pub have been circulating for decades.
One landlord kept finding old coins in the cellar and former cooks complained about things moving about in the kitchen.
Reports of apparitions and icy chills in the corridor above the cellar are commonplace among customers.
During Barry's research former landlady Vi Boxer handed over a set of photographs taken in the 1970s. They included a shot of the ghostly apparition, which appears to be checking the cellar with a lamp.
"I always keep an open mind but it does appear to be genuine," said Barry, 66, a retired security officer from cider giant Bulmers.
"I've dated the barrels in the cellar to the early 1970s, which is when they said the photograph was taken.
"I've dated his clothes to the Victorian era but he appears too well dressed to be a drayman. I've heard that at one time they held courts in the cellar so maybe he could have been a court official."
As part of his research, Barry has held a vigil in the cellar and used a clairvoyant who confirmed the presence of a well-dressed male. But he believes his research has been hampered by mystery surrounding a secret tunnel hewn out of rock. The bricked-off passage, which appears to run between the town's two churches, is linked to the pub's cellar.
Present landlords Andy Gooding and Paul Neades took over the pub last June and say they want to find out once and for all if there are more spirits than they serve behind the bar. They dismissed the stories of hauntings until a string of strange happenings, including someone constantly turning off their gas cylinders.
The day after they took Barry down to the cellar, they went down to find a barrel had been rolled across the inside of the door to block it.
"At first we thought the stories were drink talk but now we think there is definitely something," said Paul, 31.
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=74375&command=displayContent&sourceNode=73927&contentPK=4379344
| Quote: | IS GERRY THE FERRIE SCARY PUB GHOST?
18:00 - 27 February 2003
A Symonds Yat landlady is looking for ghost experts who can tell her who Gerald - a ghostly regular who just won't listen to calls for last orders - really is.
Sonia Lewis says that the popular pub and hotel on the banks of the Wye is haunted by the 'presence' nicknamed Gerald by staff, who throws glasses, turns taps on and off and has made parts of her own pub no-go areas. "I won't go in the pool room unless it's daylight or there's someone with me," she told The Forester this week.
Sonia was herself no great believer in ghosts until she discovered she was sharing a bar with one.
"I didn't believe or disbelieve, and I've never seen anything," she said.
"This is really embarrassing, but what can you say? There's definitely somebody here."
Local legend has it that in 1927-8 a former occupant of the building committed suicide in what is now the pool room which was then a stable block.
"I won't go in there on my own to turn off the lights at night," she said, "it's a joke with everyone now that I won't."
A sense of someone being there, standing next to you, is how the landlady and several guests have described the manifestations, but they also take a more concrete form explained barmaid Nola Lewis.
"I've seen glasses come down from behind the bar," she said, "we thought it might be because of a band, or music, but it happens when there's no band on and it's really quiet as well."
According to Sonia the glasses always follow the same path and often don't smash despite a fall of well over six feet.
As well as a cavalier attitude to health and safety at work, the Ferrie's spook pays no heed to sex discrimination laws either.
"It never happens to a woman," said Nola, "I've seen it but it doesn't happen to me, or any other women.
"One barman, Owen, had five come at him in a night."
Sonia agrees: "My niece might dispute this," she said, "and she says a glass went when she was serving, but in fact she had just come out from behind the bar and a man had gone in."
The possible ghostly presence only came to light when guests asked whether the place was haunted after taps and lights got a mind of their own. One visitor found an orb had appeared in a photo he had taken, but his camera refused to focus on the fireplace. Footsteps are heard when the building is empty.
The building's owner confirmed Sonia's impression that there was 'someone there', but specific information has been hard to come by.
"We've been told that someone hanged themselves here in 1927 or 1928, and it was the biggest funeral that the Yat has ever seen," said Sonia.
"I've been told he's my keeper. I've been told he's a man called Daniel or Damien and he's about 38 years old. I've been told all sorts but you can't prove it.
"I'd love it if someone could come along and tell me who it is."
A pub quiz for Forest spirit fans. |
http://www.forest-and-wye-today.co.uk/frame/newsdetail.cfm?id=58878
| Quote: | Now it's Liz who has the locals in a tiz!
THE GHOST of the Miners Arms at Sling, near Coleford, is not, after all, ‘Old Nell.’
The ancient picture hanging in the bar is that of Elizabeth Davis who was landlady at the pub in the 1880s and 1890s.
The photograph was recognised by Mr Pat Davis, of Cinderford.
“She was my great great grandmother and kept the pub for many years,” said Pat.
“In fact the pub was in our family for around a century and I was born there,” he said.
Mrs Davis had seven daughters, six of whom are buried in Clearwell churchyard.
“If this is the image customers see at the Miners then it is definitely not old Nell – she followed later – but my ancestor. They will have to rename her,” said Pat.
Landlord Brian Penkethman was delighted to get a positive identification of the old picture.
“The pub is definitely haunted by a friendly ghost and we have loads of stories and tales to tell about things that have moved and noises we have heard,” he said.
“We’ve always called her Old Nell but now we will have to think of changing that,” he said. |
Copyright Tindle Newspapers Ltd 04 April 03 |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 13-04-2003 21:16 Post subject: |
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| It's not that surprising that pubs and ghosts correlate. Alcohol has the effect of nullifying the mind's conscious faculty, allowing the deeper, more 'in tune' unconscious to come foward. The vast majority of ghost sightings are made in this distracted/switched off state. So, alcohol (to a degree) may be considered a revealer of ghosts, rather than a source in itself! |
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| DrPLee The Mighty Quim Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Total posts: 633 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 14-04-2003 10:25 Post subject: absolutely true! |
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>Alcohol has the effect of nullifying the mind's conscious faculty, > allowing the deeper, more 'in tune' unconscious to come foward.
Quite true! After a few pints, I'm fast asleep!
(Actually, I think you're quite right anyway. You'll hardly ever get to see ghosts if you concentrate really hard on finding them. You need to be in a relaxed, distracted state). |
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| ttaarraass Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Total posts: 1635 Location: Cambridge Gender: Male |
| Posted: 26-04-2006 11:44 Post subject: Pub Haunting |
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| Quote: | (PA) Police were called to a pub toilet when a shocked licensee was left shaking by an encounter with a ghost with half a face.
Landlord Roger Froggatt, 55, and his wife Kathryn, 49, were woken by the alarm at the Low Valley Arms, near Barnsley, South Yorkshire in the early hours of the morning. As he investigated what he thought might be an intruder he was confronted by a woman wearing a long white gown in the ladies lavatory of the pub in Darfield.
But what left 55-year-old Mr Froggatt in a state of complete shock was her face - half of which was missing. One officer went into the ladies and although the figure of the woman had gone, the toilets began to flush themselves. Mrs Froggatt and a second officer went in and the flushing continued. |
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| ttaarraass Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Total posts: 1635 Location: Cambridge Gender: Male |
| Posted: 26-04-2006 14:05 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | LANDLORD SHAKEN BY PUB SPIRITS
By Dave Higgens, PA
Police were called to a pub toilet today when a shocked licensee was left shaking by an encounter with a ghost with half a face.
Landlord Roger Froggatt and his wife Kathryn were woken by the alarm at the Low Valley Arms, near Barnsley, South Yorkshire in the early hours of the morning.
As he investigated what he thought might be an intruder he was confronted by a woman wearing a long white gown in the ladies lavatory of the pub in Darfield.
But what left 55-year-old Mr Froggatt in a state of complete shock was her face - half of which was missing.
Mrs Froggatt, 49, who was just behind her husband before he went into the toilets, said she was so concerned about what her husband had experienced she called the police.
"He was in total shock," she said. "He was shaking, he was white and he wouldn't move.
"He just kept saying `face, face, it's horrible, it's horrible'.
"I was so worried about what he might have seen I rang the police there and then, sitting on the stairs."
But Mrs Froggatt said the bizarre goings on, which began when the couple first came downstairs to find all the televisions on in the bar, continued when the police arrived.
She said one officer went into the ladies and although the figure of the woman had gone, the toilets began to flush themselves.
Mrs Froggatt and a second officer went in and the flushing continued.
"The handles were going up and down and there was water everywhere," she said.
The landlady said she and her husband had moved into the pub a year ago and although there had been rumours of things moving around the cellar, nothing had been seen before.
A South Yorkshire Police spokesman confirmed officers were called to the pub at 1.35am today.
He said a search of the property revealed a small window was open but it was "far too small for any entry to be gained."
The spokesman also confirmed that the toilets in the ladies flushed themselves when the officers went in. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 26-04-2006 14:12 Post subject: |
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Hope to see a police report at some point. However, however, the cynic in me can't help wondering if this isn't a stunt to drum up trade or get onto MH.
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| ttaarraass Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Total posts: 1635 Location: Cambridge Gender: Male |
| Posted: 26-04-2006 14:33 Post subject: |
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I think the last line is the most interesting. I'm reasonably sure the police have better things to do than help generate pub-licity, and surely - surely! - nobody would go to the bother of rigging up a set of toilets to make them deliberately flush. Maybe that's just me though...  |
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| ProfessorF Great Old One Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Total posts: 336 Location: Ulan Bator - inside my head looking out Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 26-04-2006 15:04 Post subject: |
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Interesting - I've now read this story as featuring a headless woman, a woman with no face, and as a woman with half a face.
Will the 'real' apparition please step forward? |
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| ttaarraass Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Total posts: 1635 Location: Cambridge Gender: Male |
| Posted: 26-04-2006 15:23 Post subject: |
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| I would presume the PA would be the source of all the other stories, as it's the only version on the wires - at which point inaccuracies/deliberate 'embellishments' would have occurred. |
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| Anonymous |
| Posted: 26-04-2006 16:24 Post subject: |
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Just a thought, but do the loos have an automatic flush system at all, or any form of electric flush? If not, then they must be push or pull flushes. These require, I believe, a physical force to act on them - at a guess a few pounds of pressure (be it pull or push). If the loos have not been rigged etc, and police genuinely corroborate this, then clearly this is something to be investigated.
My gut feeling is there has been much misreporting, confabulation and yes publicity. Do we know if any of the police involved know or are related to the publicans? Do we know if the local police have any known jokers etc?
Please keep us posted with developments... |
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| MaxMolyneux Photography Ninja Of The Night!
Great Old One Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Total posts: 1651 Location: Liverpool England United Kingdom Age: 27 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 27-04-2006 01:26 Post subject: |
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You got the link to that?
A ghost of a murder victum maybe? |
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