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Are you growing older?
Yes, I am
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No, I'm getting younger
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Sorry, I don't understand the question
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I'm a Mod; I think adding silly polls to chat threads is pointless
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PostPosted: 22-06-2013 13:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still can't work out how you lot all fit in this little box!
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My aforementioned elderly teenager just walked through the room and announced that he didn't approve of this "newfangled technology" like TV and radio. And the Internet, bah! Wasn't the printing press good enough? laughing

I chuckle about his old-fashioned ways, but haven't forgotten the moment when I realized my 83 year-old neighbor had far outstripped me in use of technological gadgets. Embarassed
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Wearing my Lone Coastguard hat, I noticed a MFV called Amber J, SE of Falmouth tonight.

That reminded me I once had a friend who had a daughter called Amber. I was close to his family, once. But the parents split up, acrimoniously, the mother took the daughter away, and a few years later I lost contact with my friend.

But that was years ago - the daughter must be about 25 now, and probably a mother herself.

Where did all the time go? Sad
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Where are the missing 90-year-olds?
By Ruth Alexander, BBC News

Thousands of elderly people are missing. The last UK census found far fewer people in their 90s than expected, and the same thing happened in the US with people over 100. Could this be an early sign that gains in life expectancy made in recent decades will not be repeated in future?

We've seen amazing improvements in life expectancy over the past few decades.
Six years have been added to global average life expectancy at birth, over the past two decades.
Much of this increase has been down to improvements in child mortality in low- and middle- income countries.

But in countries like the UK, post-retirement life expectancy has also increased rapidly.
"Life expectancy of a man aged 65 has increased from 14 years in the early 1980s to 21 years now - so that's a 50% jump in just three decades," says Richard Willets, director of longevity at insurance company Partnership.
Which is why, when the 2011 census was published, he went straight to the statistics about elderly populations.
And there the data revealed a surprise.

"There were 30,000 fewer people aged in their 90s than previously believed," he says - 429,000 instead of 457,000.
"That was about 15% fewer men; 5% fewer females. There were also fewer centenarians than previously believed - the number of female centenarians was [out] by about 10%."
Something similar has happened in the United States.

A projection made in 2004 suggested that by 2010, there would be around 114,000 people aged 100 or over, Willets says.
But, in reality, the 2010 census counted less than half that number.
Where have they all gone?
Sadly, they've already died. They just didn't live as long as statisticians had predicted.

Between censuses, annual population estimates are made by taking the numbers from the last census (which are, in part, estimates), and applying mortality tables, information from registered deaths and immigration data.

None of that information is perfect. So the further you get from the census year, the fuzzier the numbers become.
And because the numbers of people aged 90 and above are so small, any small estimation errors in how many people have died result in large discrepancies between the estimated number of people still alive - and the actual number.

"When I looked into why this may have happened, it quickly became apparent that the previous estimates of the number of people alive at different ages was subject to considerable uncertainty because of the approach that's taken to produce those estimates," says Willets, who has written about his discovery in The Actuary.

In other words, the mortality and life expectancy calculations actuaries and statisticians rely on have been too optimistic.
Willets expects to see some revisions made in the light of his find.
"I think it's not inconceivable that we move from a situation where we're adding an extra year of life expectancy in retirement every three or maybe four years, to one where it takes five, six, seven, eight years, perhaps, to add that extra year of life expectancy," he says.

This would break an incredible long-running trend for the world's richest countries.
"Life expectancy has been increasing in the past in countries doing well by 2.5 years per decade, three months per year, which is really quite remarkable - six hours per day," according to Professor James Vaupel, director of the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research in Germany, who's been tracking it.

This trend has been constant over the past 200 years - but for changing reasons. First, child and maternal mortality started improving, then, in the second half of the 20th Century, smoking rates began to drop.

"The last couple of years on that graph, there is a possible slowdown," says Colin Mathers a senior scientist at the World Health Organization (WHO) says.
"But it's hard to tell - we need a few more years of data to see. It's possible that some of the reductions - particularly in cardiovascular disease associated with reductions in smoking, in control of blood pressure particularly - have reached a saturation point.

"In Australia or California, for example, smoking rates are quite low - they could go lower, but it might not have much more impact on death rates. Perhaps control of cholesterol or blood sugar might kick in and start to further improve life expectancy. On the other hand, we're seeing increasing levels of obesity and less exercising at population level."

But the expert view is that the story of fast-increasing life expectancy certainly isn't over for the world's low- and middle- income countries. In fact, it's probably just beginning.
Over the past two decades, substantial improvements have been made to health in Africa, Asia, Latin America and the eastern Mediterranean region in particular, Mathers says.

Life expectancy at birth in Asia has increased by about seven years since 1990. India, China, Indonesia, the Philippines and Malaysia are all stand-out countries. Average life expectancy at birth has also increased by seven years in Eastern Mediterranean countries.
"In some of the poorest countries we are seeing reductions in child and maternal death rates and these are contributing to improvements in life expectancy," Mathers says.

"In some of the middle income countries, and countries which are developing very fast like China and some of the South American countries, we're seeing improvements in living conditions and medical care which are starting to contribute to very substantial reductions in adult mortality rates as well."

Africa is also a success story: life expectancy at birth has increased by six years from 50 years to 56 years in the short period, 1990-2011.
But these averages hide individual tales of tragedy at a country level: going against this trend, there are a number of African countries where life expectancy has fallen over the same period, largely due to HIV/Aids.
"In South Africa, for example, over the past 20 years, life expectancy has decreased by five years, almost entirely due to the HIV epidemic. And in Zimbabwe also, life expectancy has decreased by six years," Mathers says.

"In Nigeria on the other hand, life expectancy was much lower in 1990, at 46 years - there were very high levels of child, and adult, mortality. And that has improved to 53 years. So that's a seven-year increase for Nigeria, compared to a five-year decrease for South Africa."
But Nigerian life expectancy is still five years lower than that in South Africa, he points out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23126814
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PostPosted: 02-07-2013 13:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soylent Green.
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PostPosted: 02-07-2013 20:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

ramonmercado wrote:
Soylent Green.


Nah. Mass alien abduction.
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PostPosted: 03-07-2013 20:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Cocoon was based on a true story?
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PostPosted: 03-07-2013 20:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

gncxx wrote:
So Cocoon was based on a true story?


So it would seem.
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People in their 90s are getting smarter
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23864-people-in-their-90s-are-getting-smarter.html#.UeL1DI14JHc
18:35 12 July 2013 by Shaoni Bhattacharya

Ninety-somethings seem to be getting smarter. Today's oldest people are surviving longer, and thankfully appear to have sharper minds than the people reaching their 90s 10 years ago.

Kaare Christensen, head of the Danish Aging Research Center at the University of Southern Denmark in Odense, and colleagues found Danish people born in 1915 were about a third more likely to live to their 90s than those born in 1905, and were smarter too.

During research, which spanned 12 years and involved more than 5000 people, the team gave nonagenarians born in 1905 and 1915 a standard test called a "mini-mental state examination", and cognitive tests designed to pick up age-related changes. Not only did those born in 1915 do better at both sets of tests, more of them also scored top marks in the mini-mental state exam.

It's a landmark study, says Marcel Olde Rikkert, head of the Alzheimer's centre at Radboud University Nijmegen Medical Centre in the Netherlands. It is scientifically rigorous, it invited all over 90-year-olds in Denmark to participate, and it also overturns our ingrained views of old age, he says.

Getting better all the time

"The outcome underlines that ageing is malleable," Olde Rikkert says, adding that cognitive function can actually be a lot better than people would assume until a very high age.

"It's motivating that people, their lifestyles, and their environments can contribute a lot to the way they age," he says, though he cautions that not everything is in our own hands and help is still needed for those with dementia or those who do experience cognitive decline as they age.

Improved education played a part in the changes, says Christensen. But the study does not disentangle the individual effects of the numerous things that could be responsible for the improvements. "The 1915 cohort had a number of factors on their side – they experienced better living and working conditions, they had radio, TV and newspapers earlier in their lives than those born 10 years before," he says.

Tellingly, there was no difference in the physical test results between the two groups. The authors say this "suggests changes in the intellectual environment rather than in the physical environment are the basis for the improvement".

Journal reference: The Lancet, DOI: 10.1016/S0140-6736(13)60777-1
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PostPosted: 24-07-2013 08:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've gotta have a laugh! Very Happy

Meet the Beano's oldest fan - aged 91 and a half
[video]

The Beano celebrates its 75th anniversary this month - and Jim Andison has been a fan since day one.

The 91-and-a-half year old is the oldest member of the Beano Fan Club, and certainly considers himself to be one of the comic's most dedicated supporters. He regularly calls the offices of DC Thomson in Dundee to suggest ideas - and was rewarded with a personalised card from the team on his 91st birthday.

But superfan Jim had never made the pilgrimage to the Beano's offices - until now.
The BBC invited him to Dundee to take a look around and meet his heroes, accompanied by his long-suffering wife, May. The Beano team were so pleased to meet him that they decided to include him in a future issue of the comic as a new character. Cool

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23425446
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Alcohol warning for older drinkers from North East researchers

Many older people are damaging their health by drinking too much, north-east of England researchers have warned.
Newcastle and Sunderland University academics explored why people aged 65 to 90 drank above recommended levels.
They spoke to 53 North East men and women in the age group to learn more about their attitudes to alcohol.

The researchers have called for changes to the recommended safe drinking levels for people in the age group and for there to be specific alcohol advice.
The researchers, who carried out interviews and focus groups, said many people did not recognise themselves as heavy drinkers.

Dr Graeme Wilson, from Newcastle University's Institute of Health and Society, said: "Many older people are drinking to a level that is having a long-term impact on their health, even if the damage they are doing is not always immediately apparent."
Among those the researchers spoke to were a woman who said she drank a bottle of wine every day but said she did not have a problem because it did not have a big effect on her.

Researchers said heavy drinking in the age group was strongly linked to depression and anxiety and longer-term health problems.
[Golly Gosh! Steps Back in Amazement!]

They also said metabolism was slower and older people were likely to be taking prescribed medicines which would interact with alcohol and so it could have a bigger impact.

They found chronic pain, loneliness and bereavement were likely to lead to heavier drinking in later life.
[When doctors can't do anything about 'chronic pain, loneliness and bereavement ', what do they expect?]

The researchers said alcohol interventions were not working for older people with many in the group saying messages were confusing.

But Paul Green, director of communications for Saga, which specialises in products and services for the over-50s, said: "Whilst sensible drinking is sound advice, nannies don't need the nanny state telling them what to do.
"Our own research amongst almost 1,000 over-50s shows that they tend to drink less than 10 units of alcohol a week, much less than the recommended 14 for women and 21 for men."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23615807

All the check-ups the NHS insist I have because of my age really piss me off! Evil or Very Mad If they could do something about the arthritis that cripples me more and more, I might respect their opinions more. But they only seem interested in statistics, and regard it as a good thing if people can live longer, regardless of quality of life. If I can't be happy living, then I'm happy to die. Let's face it, no one will miss me when I'm gone....

Ah, my mug's empty, time for a refill! Cheers!
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rynner2 wrote:
Let's face it, no one will miss me when I'm gone....


I'm sure some of us here would.
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Mythopoeika wrote:
rynner2 wrote:
Let's face it, no one will miss me when I'm gone....

I'm sure some of us here would.

Thanks for the thought, but the internet is such an ephemeral thing that there's no guarantee that this MB will last much longer than me! Posters will drift on elsewhere, develop new interests, and forget about the 'old days'.

Look at our Quitters thread - be honest, how many of them come to mind more than once in a blue moon?

It's the way of the world - a few Bigwigs get remembered, but almost none of the chambermaids or bootblack boys.

Well, it seems my mug is empty again! pished
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Our own research amongst almost 1,000 over-50s shows that they tend to drink less than 10 units of alcohol a week
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rynner2 wrote:
Mythopoeika wrote:
rynner2 wrote:
Let's face it, no one will miss me when I'm gone....

I'm sure some of us here would.

Thanks for the thought, but the internet is such an ephemeral thing that there's no guarantee that this MB will last much longer than me! Posters will drift on elsewhere, develop new interests, and forget about the 'old days'.

Look at our Quitters thread - be honest, how many of them come to mind more than once in a blue moon?

It's the way of the world - a few Bigwigs get remembered, but almost none of the chambermaids or bootblack boys.

Well, it seems my mug is empty again! pished


I'll miss you Rynn. Do my best to raise you from the grave. A spot of Necromancy will keep my mind active.
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