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Spudrick68 Great Old One Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Total posts: 1096 Location: sunny Morecambe Age: 45 Gender: Male |
Posted: 09-10-2012 12:08 Post subject: |
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| Ramonmercado - I don't condone prison sentences for freedom of speech. The consequences of publicly being a sick minded idiot will be social. Despite his bravado, being shunned by a large section of your own community cannot be a pleasant experience. That should be punishment enough. |
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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17657 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
Posted: 09-10-2012 19:14 Post subject: |
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| Spudrick68 wrote: | | Ramonmercado - I don't condone prison sentences for freedom of speech. The consequences of publicly being a sick minded idiot will be social. Despite his bravado, being shunned by a large section of your own community cannot be a pleasant experience. That should be punishment enough. |
I see where you are coming from.
Heres another example, I'm opposed to the war but I would never disrespect soldiers who had been killed in Afghanistan. I don't think though it should be a criminal offence to post what he did.
As Quake wrote on another thread how can we protest about how Pussy Riot were treated when this happens in the UK?
| Quote: | Azhar Ahmed sentenced over Facebook soldier deaths slur
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19883828
Ahmed posted the message on Facebook just days after the soldiers' deaths
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A man who posted an offensive Facebook message following the deaths of six British soldiers has been given a community order.
Azhar Ahmed, 20, of Fir Avenue, Ravensthorpe, West Yorkshire, was found guilty in September of sending a grossly offensive communication.
He said he did not think the message, which said "all soldiers should die and go to hell", was offensive.
Ahmed was also fined £300 at Huddersfield Magistrates' Court.
He will have to do 240 hours of community service over a two-year period.
Ahmed was charged after the mother of one of the soldiers read the comments and was so upset she called the police.
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The six soldiers were killed by an improvised explosive device (IED) in Lashkar Gah on 6 March, in the deadliest single attack on British forces in Afghanistan since 2001.
Sgt Nigel Coupe, 33, of 1st Battalion The Duke of Lancaster's Regiment, was killed alongside Cpl Jake Hartley, 20, Pte Anthony Frampton, 20, Pte Christopher Kershaw, 19, Pte Daniel Wade, 20, and Pte Daniel Wilford, 21, all of 3rd Battalion the Yorkshire Regiment.
Ahmed's message was posted just two days later on 8 March.
The six soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan on 6 March
Nicholas Barker, defending, said Ahmed was initially voicing "legitimate concerns" about the victims of war but went on to overstep the mark.
When he realised his comments were causing distress he removed them, Mr Barker added.
District Judge Jane Goodwin said the law should not stop legitimate political opinions being strongly voiced.
But she said the test was whether what was written was "beyond the pale of what's tolerable in our society".
'Freedom of speech'
She told Ahmed: "You posted the message in response to tributes and messages of sympathy. You knew at the time that this was an emotive and sensitive issue.
"With freedom of speech comes responsibility. On March 8 you failed to live up to that responsibility."
The sentence was met with cries of "disgusting" from protesters in the public gallery, some of whom walked out while the district judge was speaking.
One man was detained by police while leaving the court after shouting comments at the judge.
After the hearing, a man who had a conviction for sending a menacing electronic communication on Twitter overturned, criticised Ahmed's sentence saying it was a bad day "for freedom of speech".
Paul Chambers, who posted a message saying he would blow up an airport when it closed after heavy snow, tweeted: "Glad all that fighting wasn't for nothing."
He also commented on the jailing of a man who admitted posting an offensive comment on Facebook about missing five-year-old April Jones.
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escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17709 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 3 Gender: Female |
Posted: 09-10-2012 23:50 Post subject: |
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| ramonmercado wrote: | | Spudrick68 wrote: | The pond life who posted comments on Facebook apparently smirked as he was led away.
They really should have let the public get hold of him. |
I agree hes pond life but this is a dangerous law. If people celebrate Thatchers death on FB, will that be a criminal offence? What would a tory magistrate think?
If I say something "offensive" about the McCann parents motives, actions and their privileged access to politicians and the police should I be imprisoned? |
I agree with you. The comments he posted were most likely variations on the long-running 'World Hide & Seek Championships' jokes that you come across on silly websites. Cruel and offensive but not worth locking people up for.
I lost someone I loved to suicide. When I hear people making jokes about suicide, especially the method that my relation chose, I feel offended and hurt because it's personal to me, but that's MY problem.
I might despise someone who made such a joke in front of me (and that might be a problem for THEM!) but I understand that black humour exists for a reason. It's one of the ways we find to deal with awful events. Despising people who make such jokes might even be a further part of that process. |
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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Total posts: 17657 Location: Dublin Gender: Male |
Posted: 11-10-2012 13:26 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Toddler served whisky at Frankie and Benny's restaurant
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-19906942
Sonny Rees drinking the whisky at the restaurant
A restaurant has apologised after a toddler was served whisky instead of fruit juice at his birthday party.
Sonny Rees drank the 40% proof whisky at his 2nd birthday in a Frankie and Benny's restaurant in Swansea.
His mother Nina Rees only realised the mistake after he had finished the drink.
Sonny, from Pontarddulais in Swansea, was taken to accident and emergency where he was kept under observation by doctors.
The toddler is now recovering at home. The restaurant is investigating how the incident happened.
Sonny's mother Nina took the toddler to A&E
Sonny's mother Nina Rees, 34, said: "We went to the restaurant just after midday and I had ordered him lime juice and water, his favourite.
"The drinks arrived and I was encouraging him to take sips because he was eating salty things.
"We had finished our first course when we noticed he was pulling a face as he was drinking.
"I took it from him and took a sip myself.
"It was whisky, I would say a double. As soon as I sipped it I had the slight burny feeling in my throat and warming in my chest.
"Sonny had taken about 10 sips - he was obviously intoxicated.
"I immediately went into a panic and a rage - I was crying my eyes out."
Mrs Rees, who is a teacher, complained to the manager who took a sip herself.
Mrs Rees was disappointed by the staff's reaction and called NHS Direct before taking Sonny to accident and emergency.
Frankie and Benny's restaurant in Swansea
Sonny was asleep by the time he arrived at Morriston Hospital, Swansea, where staff monitored his vital signs.
He was later given the all-clear and allowed to go home.
The family took photographs of Sonny with his drink before they realised it was whisky.
A Frankie and Benny's spokesman said: "The company is incredibly sorry for what happened. It was a human error and we are putting measures in place to ensure it never happens again." |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 12-10-2012 08:16 Post subject: |
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French phone bill waived after 12qn-euro blunder
A woman in south-west France, who received a telephone bill of nearly 12 quadrillion euros, has had the real amount she owed waived - after the company admitted its mistake.
Solenne San Jose, from Pessac outside Bordeaux, said she received a huge shock when she opened the bill for 11,721,000,000,000,000 euros (£9.4qn).
This is nearly 6,000 times France's annual economic output.
She had requested her account be closed after losing her job last month.
The former teaching assistant said she "almost had a heart attack. There were so many zeroes I couldn't even work out how much it was".
The phone company, Bouygues Telecom, initially told her there was nothing they could do to amend the computer-generated statement and later offered to set up instalments to pay off the bill.
In the end, the company admitted the bill should have been for 117.21 euros only, and eventually waived it altogether.
It has also apologised for the gaffe, which it says was down to a printing error and a subsequent misunderstanding between the client and staff at their call centre.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19908095 |
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Spudrick68 Great Old One Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Total posts: 1096 Location: sunny Morecambe Age: 45 Gender: Male |
Posted: 12-10-2012 11:12 Post subject: |
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| That made me chuckle. |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 13-10-2012 07:48 Post subject: |
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Essex couple tear down walls in 'beeping sound' search
A retired couple driven to despair by a constant beeping sound ripped out walls in a bid to find the cause - only to find it was from a smoke alarm buried in a chest of drawers.
Paul and Jeanette Henry, of Frinton, Essex, are facing a bill of hundreds of pounds to replace the plasterwork.
Mrs Henry, 68, said she was "absolutely amazed" when they found the culprit - a 10-year-old smoke alarm in an old desk.
"We were tearing our hair out," she said.
The couple, who first heard the beeping a year ago, said they had called out electricians to try to find the cause.
The beeping eventually stopped during the summer.
However, on returning from holiday a fortnight ago, they discovered the beep had not only returned but it was now going off every 30 seconds, night and day.
"Paul took up all the floorboards in the attic but it was getting silly," said Mrs Henry.
"I was even going round listening to all the grandchildren's toys in case a battery was wearing out.
"We had to do something as we were getting desperate; we weren't getting any sleep."
Another electrician suggested a "mischievous builder" might have dropped an alarm between two plasterboard walls so builders were called to knock them through.
They did not find anything.
"We were tearing our hair out, we now had two gaping holes and there was still this blessed bleep," said Mrs Henry.
Eventually Mr Henry, 67, a retired print worker, decided to turn all the lights off upstairs and try to locate the sound in the dark.
He followed the noise to an old chest of drawers on the landing and, as he opened the desk, the sound got louder.
Mrs Henry said: "Right at the back he found a smoke alarm, which must have been about 10 years old, whose battery was running out and bleeping away quite happily to let us know.
"We couldn't believe it, we were absolutely amazed, but really relieved, although we still keep thinking we can hear it."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-19921055 |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 19-10-2012 17:25 Post subject: |
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M&S lorry gets stuck under York's Micklegate Bar
Fire crews in York have freed a lorry after it became stuck under one of the city's medieval gateways.
The Marks and Spencer lorry was travelling through the central arch of the 12th Century Micklegate Bar on Thursday night when it got stuck.
Micklegate Bar is one of four medieval gateways into the city and has a height restriction of 8ft 6in (2.59m).
The City of York Council said it had carried out an inspection of the bar and there was no structural damage.
North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue said it had cut away a spoiler from the cab of the lorry in order to free it.
The incident prompted numerous comments on Twitter with many people using humour based on recent M&S television adverts.
Chris Wilkie wrote: "This is not just any lorry getting stuck...but an M&S lorry."
"No ordinary accident. A Marks & Spencer Accident," was the comment from Andrew Little.
The supermarket chain has not commented.
Since 1389, in a tradition established by King Richard II, monarchs visiting York must formally request permission to enter the city at Micklegate Bar.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-20001098 |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 06-11-2012 23:03 Post subject: |
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Accounts merged after name mix-up by Prudential
Tens of thousands of pounds ended up in the wrong savings account following a mix-up over two customers with the same name and date of birth.
Insurance company Prudential mistakenly merged the records of the two customers in March 2007.
The mix-up, which continued for more than three years, resulted in large amounts of retirement savings ending up in the wrong account.
Prudential UK has been fined £50,000 by the Information Commissioner.
"This case would be considered farcical were it not for the serious sums of money involved," said Stephen Eckersley, the commissioner's head of enforcement.
A spokesman for the Prudential said that the confused names of the two savings customers were "not uncommon". He apologised and said that the customers had been compensated.
But he added that the problem originated from a mistake by one of the customer's financial advisers.
The two customers, who have not been identified, shared the same first name, the same surname, and the same date of birth.
This led to their two accounts being mistakenly merged by Prudential. It was 42 months later that the confusion was eventually resolved.
In the meantime, Prudential was told about the mistake on several occasions, the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) said.
This included a letter from one of the customers involved in the mix-up pointing out that he had not changed his address for 15 years, so there was clearly a problem.
The fine imposed by the ICO related to the failure of the company to investigate fully when alerted to the problem.
It is the first penalty handed out by the ICO which does not relate to data being lost by an organisation.
Previous fines charged to other businesses have resulted from the loss of disks or memory cards containing customers' information.
"In this case two customer files were consistently confused and the company failed to remedy the situation despite being alerted to the problem on more than one occasion before it was finally resolved," said Mr Eckersley, of the ICO.
"While data losses may make the headlines, most people will contact our office about inaccuracies and other issues relating to the misuse of their information.
"Inaccurate information on a customer's record, particularly when the record relates to an individual's financial affairs, can have a significant impact on someone's life.
"We hope this penalty sends a message to all organisations, but particularly those in the financial sector, that adequate checks must be in place to ensure people's records are accurate."
Prudential has now improved training for staff and updated its customer records processes, the ICO said.
A spokesman for the insurance company said: "We regret that this incident occurred and was not resolved more quickly. The circumstances surrounding this case are unique.
"The accidental merging of the two customers' details was not the result of system or process failures. It originally happened when the financial adviser of the first customer mistakenly provided the address of the second customer to us and requested that we change the first customer's registered address.
"We co-operated openly and fully with the review and we accept the fine imposed."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20221648
This is of interest to me as I was at school with another boy with the same name as me (first name, middle name, and surname!), but at least we didn't have the same DoB! |
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ramonmercado Psycho Punk
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Posted: 05-12-2012 22:48 Post subject: |
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I can see the Mails twist on this, mayor hopping mad.
| Quote: | Builders demolish Russian oligarch's French chateau
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20616993
The original 13,000 sq m chateau was due to be renovated
Polish builders have demolished an 18th Century chateau in Bordeaux belonging to a Russian businessman, apparently by mistake.
Owner Dmitry Stroskin said he was shocked and had only ordered them to knock down an adjacent outhouse.
The local mayor in the nearby French village of Yvrac is said to be furious.
Chateau de Bellevue had been due to be renovated to its former glory - Mr Stroskin has said he will rebuild it exactly as it was.
The original 13,000 sq m chateau, which featured grand horseshoe steps and a once palatial ballroom, was previously hired out for wedding receptions and functions.
It sat within an imposing vineyard estate, where now only the rundown outhouse is still standing.
"The Chateau de Bellevue was Yvrac's pride and joy, the whole village is in shock," former owner Juliette Marmie told Associated Press. "How can this construction firm make such a mistake?"
Mr Stroskin has told local media that he is "in shock" and understands the locals' feelings.
French prosecutors are reported to be investigating whether there was a breach of the building code. |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 16-12-2012 10:44 Post subject: |
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A 1955 mistake led to Xmas joy for generations of kids:
Santa ditches Google for Microsoft
After years with Google, the US military's Santa tracking service is switching to Microsoft Bing.
7:15AM GMT 16 Dec 2012
Since the 1950s, Norad, the North American Aerospace Defence Command, has been giving children updates on Santa's progress from the North Pole each Christmas Eve.
Norad has teamed up with Google to track Santa's progress online for the last five years but this year Microsoft is sponsoring the service for the first time.
A NORAD spokesman told Search Engine Land: “NTS [Norad Tracks Santa] and Google mutually agreed to go in new directions.”
NORAD has also built its own apps for Windows Phone, Android, and iOS, along with a Windows 8 app this year.
The Santa-tracking tradition began in 1955 after an advertisement misprinted a telephone number for children to call Santa. The phone number in fact put children through to the Commander-in-Chief's operations 'hotline' for CONAD, the forerunner of Norad.
The Director of Operations at the time, Colonel Harry Shoup, had staff check the radar for Santa making his way south from the North Pole. Children who called the hotline were given updates on his location as he made his journey.
Geekwire commented: "This is a score for Microsoft, as nearly 25 million people are expected to follow Santa this year. Last Christmas, the NORAD Tracks Santa Operations Center in Colorado Springs received more than 102,000 calls, 7,721 e-mails and reached nearly 20 million people in more than 220 countries around the world."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/9745963/Santa-ditches-Google-for-Microsoft.html |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 23-01-2013 09:42 Post subject: |
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Mix-up sparks two hour Lizard dog owner search
2:00pm Tuesday 22nd January 2013 in News
In circumstances resembling a plot straight out of a shaggy dog story, police officers and coastguards spent more than two hours searching for the master of a stray dog – whose owners each thought the other had it.
The dog, believed to be called Musky, was found at Kynance Cove, near The Lizard, by a member of the public, who called the police to say the animal had been roaming and “crying” for most of the day.
They were concerned that the dog’s owner might be stuck at the bottom of the cove, as the dog had a coat on and did not look abandoned.
Police officers and Mullion Coastguard’s cliff rescue team were scrambled, with a police helicopter and a search and rescue crew from RNAS Culdrose also put on standby although neither were called out in the event.
It was discovered that the dog was micro-chipped, with a contact number registered for someone in Falmouth.
With the person out of contact, however, police officers were forced to carry out a search of the area around their address.
Meanwhile coastguards carried out a search of the cliff path and shoreline in case someone was in trouble.
At 5pm a woman called to say the dog had been re-homed with a Constantine family. At around the same time a couple approached police officers at Kynance saying they owned the dog.
A police spokesman said: “They had brought two vehicles with them and both thought each other had the dog. They got home and then realised.”
The spokesman stressed the importance of owners having their pet information updated.
He said: “If the dog had got a tag with the owner’s name and address on it this could have saved a lot of time. I would encourage all dog owners to check their animals have some contact detail on them, in case they get lost.”
http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/10171566.Mix_up_sparks_two_hour_Lizard_dog_owner_search/?ref=mr |
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rynner2 What a Cad! Great Old One Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Total posts: 20321 Location: Under the moon Gender: Male |
Posted: 29-01-2013 08:55 Post subject: |
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Anger over Twitter porn gaffe on Vine video service
Users have reacted angrily after a pornographic video appeared as an "Editor's Pick" on Twitter's new video service, Vine.
The six-second clip appeared at the top of users' home screen - covered by a warning notice.
After word spread on Twitter, the image was soon removed, but had by then made the "Popular now" ranking.
Twitter apologised to users, blaming "human error" for the video's appearance.
"A human error resulted in a video with adult content becoming one of the videos in Editor's Picks, and upon realising this mistake we removed the video immediately," the company said in a statement.
"We apologise to our users for the error."
Vine had been facing criticism over the amount of pornography being shared by users on its service.
But those images were generally only viewable to those who specifically looked for them by using search terms.
By being chosen as an Editor's Pick, the video appeared at the top of screen when users opened the app.
One user, Taylor Winkelmeyer, wrote: "I clicked on the link because I thought the warning was a joke.
"I am furious I had to see something like this. Someone please tell me how to get it off my feed."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21229764 |
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CarlosTheDJ Dazed and confused for so long its not true Great Old One Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Total posts: 1874 Location: Sussex Age: 36 Gender: Male |
Posted: 29-01-2013 11:37 Post subject: |
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| rynner2 wrote: |
One user, Taylor Winkelmeyer, wrote: "I clicked on the link because I thought the warning was a joke. |
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