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| After all of our discussions, do you now think that 9/11 was the work of: |
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38% |
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| The US security services |
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| Al Qaeda, US security knew but totally screwed up |
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| Al Qaeda, US security knew and let it happen |
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| Al Qaeda and US Security fully cooperated |
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Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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 Posted: 09-05-2006 17:27 Post subject: WTC Demolition Conspiracy II |
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A continutation of the WTC Conspiracy thread.
Previous thread:
WTC Demolition Conspiracy:
www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1504
Keep it clean, no punching below the belt, round 2. |
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| Heckler20 The Sockpuppet of
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The World Trade Centre was demolished?  |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 09-05-2006 18:10 Post subject: |
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| Does this mean we can have another poll? |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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| Posted: 09-05-2006 18:49 Post subject: |
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| jimv1 wrote: | | Does this mean we can have another poll? |
Sure why not?
I suspect you can probably still vote on the previous one so it might be worth pitching a different poll although it could be that it'd be another snapshot of people's opinions now.
If people decide what Poll they'd want I can add it. |
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| Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
| Posted: 09-05-2006 20:02 Post subject: |
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Is the poll going ask to ask whether anyone thinks this new thread will go on for another 115 pages and go around in circles again...?  |
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| crunchy5 Great Old One Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Total posts: 1951 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 09-05-2006 20:52 Post subject: |
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| Jerry_B wrote: | | Is the poll going ask to ask whether anyone thinks this new thread will go on for another 115 pages and go around in circles again...? |
surely that depends on whether you change your opinion in the face of ever more convincing evidence, just joking Jerry.  |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 09-05-2006 21:54 Post subject: |
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Hmmmmmm. Why a new thread? why not just restart the old one from page1?
mind you...some things have changed.
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that was from you Jerry. |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 09-05-2006 21:56 Post subject: |
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Oh...I just realised!
The old thread's being shipped off to China isn't it? |
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| techybloke666 Mad for Golf
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| Posted: 09-05-2006 22:22 Post subject: |
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Jerry does'nt wink thats a twitch for sure.
now thats a wink
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| Jerry_B Great Old One Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Total posts: 8265 |
| Posted: 09-05-2006 23:14 Post subject: |
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| Well, it would be nice if this new volume of this particular theory actually begins with some new stuff, and not rehashing of stuff we've already covered again and again. If there's any new, more solid sounding information coming out from the conspiracy stuff, please post it - but only if it actually comes up with anything actually new and not something we've already covered. IMHo there's no point keeping a thread open if it just ends up being a repeat performance of the other one. |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 09-05-2006 23:36 Post subject: |
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| Oh, lighten up Jerry - global conspiracy doesn't neccessarily mean the end of the world. |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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| Posted: 10-05-2006 00:22 Post subject: |
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He is right though.
If no one is actually interested in discussing the WTC at the moment then we can bin this thread and someone can start a new one when there is something worth saying on the topic. |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 10-05-2006 00:54 Post subject: |
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Hang on. The points raised against the conspiracy theory have been along the lines of ' Not sufficient evidence IMHO'. There have been useful postings on the potential uses of thermite, the effects of said reaction, counters to the 'pancake' theory of tower collapse, how it worked along with the laws of physics, and a query asking why there is no evidence of molten pools in other collapsed buildings.
As far as the latter is concerned, I hesitate to say that you won't find any molten pools of metal weeks after any other building collapse as the 'circumstances' we are getting at didn't arise.
The physics thread I posted was a case of 'kill the messenger' because the entire CV of the writer wasn't included...and the author wasn't a structural engineer. So obviously the Laws of Physics only apply to those with the relevant qualifications.
Add to that the fact that the thoughts of a professor of physics were disregarded because he wasn't a structural engineer.
I'm not saying that it was a definite case of US Gov conspiracy...all I'm saying is that in my mind there is still a lot of room for doubt. AND no-one has answered all the arguments against to my satisfaction. (and if you're thinking that's a bit cheeky think of those who've demanded evidence to the contrary..the goverment line).
I don't think the thread has run its course yet. (IMHO). |
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| jimv1 Great Old One Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Total posts: 2734 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 10-05-2006 01:04 Post subject: |
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also..I notice that the 'ID Cards', 'Us sizing Iran up?' and 'London Bombings' threads are getting a bit unwieldy too.
You may want to dispose of them while you're at it. |
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| Mighty_Emperor Divine Wind
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| Posted: 10-05-2006 01:10 Post subject: |
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| jimv1 wrote: | | I don't think the thread has run its course yet. (IMHO). |
Righto - perhaps a summary with resources might help kickstart the debate then?
| jimv1 wrote: | also..I notice that the 'ID Cards', 'Us sizing Iran up?' and 'London Bombings' threads are getting a bit unwieldy too.
You may want to dispose of them while you're at it. |
I'm not sure what you mean - I have already started a new "US Sizing up Iran" thread because it was getting unweildy. The others can b left o run for a bit before they need a part two. |
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