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PostPosted: 27-05-2006 15:29    Post subject: Doctor Who 2 (Avast! There be spoilers!) Reply with quote

Continuing the Doctor Who discussion from here:

www.forteantimes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6005



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PostPosted: 27-05-2006 18:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooo, and there were me thinking it were a rant about how they insist on calling the current series Series Two, when it's actually series 28 or summat.

Well, my favourite episodes so far -
The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances
The Girl in the Fireplace

Least favourite -
Well, much as it pains me to say it - the Cybermen. I looked forward to them so much, and they looked great, but I just thought the episodes were rather weak.
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PostPosted: 27-05-2006 19:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, it's definitely series 2.
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PostPosted: 27-05-2006 22:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The thing about that is...according to one source, the heart of the Tardis is something called The Eye of Harmony. According to events in The Deadly Assassin, the Eye of Harmony is on Gallifrey and is a captive black hole created by Rassillon, Omega et al to power the initial time travel experiments. And according to the most recent TV show, the Tardis gets its power from the Universe, but the heart of the Tardis is connected to the Space/Time Vortex and exposure to the energy therein is fatal.


Well, looking at the snippet for next weeks' show (which appears suitably 'off-world' - and rather epic, I must say) it seems that a black hole is a major plot point. I understand that this is the first episode of a two-parter in which the Doctor meets someone claiming to be the devil.

Hmmm. OK, I know RTD has said that we won't be seeing the Master in this series, but maybe this devil guy is such a 'mephistolean charmer' that it leaves a lot of viewers wondering. Whatever happens, it's sure to turn out interesting - RTD has stated that this story will illustrate the Doctor's 'beliefs', so it looks like we're going into SF-meets-theology territory. So hopefully it'll be a bit controversial, too.

As for 'The Idiot's Lantern': thoroughly enjoyable, made even more so by...faceless people! And what's weird is that though the 'blank face' effect was fairly ropy CGI, it was this very ropiness that made it better. It gave the impression that the faces themselves couldn't really be fully grasped by the eye; there was a dreamlike fuzziness to them that implied more a psychological effect than a physical one - as if the change was such that the mind couldn't quite get the hang of what it was seeing. Very good stuff indeed.
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PostPosted: 27-05-2006 23:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really enjoyed tonights episode. I think also that Gatiss wrote for Rose well too. She wasn't annoying in this episode. Which shows that Tennant can chew his way through a terrible episode and make himself still watchable, but Piper has a lot of acting jobs to do before she can carry off the same.

Great stuff.
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PostPosted: 27-05-2006 23:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravenstone wrote:
Oooo, and there were me thinking it were a rant about how they insist on calling the current series Series Two, when it's actually series 28 or summat.


Yep indeed - 28th season of Dr Who Broadcast unless you want to count McGann as a whole season to himself!

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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 00:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the faceless effect was done with masks (as it was in the Twilight Zone movie).

Good episode although all the Little Shop of Horrors-esque "feed me now" business got a little grating after a while.

When I get the DVD I am going to have to check to see if any of the shots were actually done straight. It can work as a dramatic device but when used all the time like that it rather loses its impact.

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Anyway DVDs....

I think I mentioned Volume 2 part 1 is out:

www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000ESSTB0/

Box set is scheduled for November:

www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000FFL702/

Pity the piccie is a placeholder as I got excited thinking it was a Cyberman!!
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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 00:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Gatiss does it again, an excellent episode. The faceless aspect made me think of Sapphire and Steel or that episode of Star Trek where Robert Walker Jr plays the petulant, psychic teen who makes the woman's face disappear at the party. All this and the Doctor quoting Kylie as well!

But does anyone know why Mr Gatiss was completely bald when interviewed in Doctor Who Confidential on BBC3? I'm hoping it's for a role.
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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 01:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

he's playing Johnnie Cradock in "Fear of Fanny" for BBC4 next. Johnnie Cradock was bald.
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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 01:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, right. Thanks for clearing that up.
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I didn't like the blurred faces, thought they would have looked better as masks!

I like the look of the squid things coming up next week though.
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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 12:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the look of the squid things coming up next week though.


That would be the Ood.

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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 13:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

gordonrutter wrote:

Yep indeed - 28th season of Dr Who Broadcast unless you want to count McGann as a whole season to himself!



I do believe I've said before that I try to block out the whole McGann experience and pretend it never happened.... Wink
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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 14:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

min_bannister wrote:
I didn't like the blurred faces, thought they would have looked better as masks!

I like the look of the squid things coming up next week though.

Masks, or CGI, it's still a bit unlikely, isn't it?

How would they breathe, for one thing? It all seemed a bit more metaphysical, than science fictional.

Not that I didn't enjoy it. Smile
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PostPosted: 28-05-2006 14:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Least favourite -
Well, much as it pains me to say it - the Cybermen. I looked forward to them so much, and they looked great, but I just thought the episodes were rather weak.


Season 2 has generally been very, very weak so far. New Earth was ok-ish, School Reunion was fun but felt like a huge waste and the Cybermen episodes were dismal. Plus Billie appears to have forgotten how to act at times, though Tennant is ecellent as the Doctor.

However it has had The Girl in the Fireplace which is possibly one of the best bit of Who ever.
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