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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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| Fluttermoth wrote: | Things have been majorly kicking off about this across the Who forums (and Twitter/FB)
I'm hoping for Marco Polo. |
I'm hoping for, The Web of Fear. Major behind the sofa fare. |
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gncxx King-Size Canary
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| Posted: 08-10-2013 22:34 Post subject: |
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| The first episode of The Web of Fear is a fantastic bit of television, so please let's have the rest. |
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 09-10-2013 16:40 Post subject: |
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| Marco polo sounds good. I have the book, its a clever little tale |
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| OneWingedBird Great Old One Joined: 19 Nov 2012 Total posts: 542 Location: Attice of blinkey lights Age: 44 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 09-10-2013 18:22 Post subject: |
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I wonder if we'll get the rest of The Tenth Planet and the Moonbase.
Power of the Daleks might be holding out for a bit much. |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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| Posted: 11-10-2013 02:38 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/lost-doctor-who-episodes-the-enemy-of-the-world-and-the-web-of-fear-recovered-after-45-years-8872220.html
Lost Doctor Who episodes The Enemy Of The World and The Web of Fear recovered after 45 years
The episodes have been discovered in pristine condition in Nigeria
The Independent. Adam Sherwin. 11 October 2013
Doctor Who fans will raise a Sonic Screwdriver to archivist Phillip Morris, the Indiana Jones of film, whose ceaseless search for lost episodes uncovered two classic stories languishing in Nigeria, made available for download at midnight on Thursday via iTunes.
Viewers might wish the BBC had shipped more of its programming to Africa during the period in which it systematically wiped the jewels in its crown, given the magnificently-preserved condition of the two episodes, which have not been seen for some 45 years.
Morris found The Enemy of the World (1967) and The Web of Fear (1968), both starring Patrick Troughton as the second doctor, gathering dust at a television relay station in Nigeria, after tracking records of BBC overseas shipments.
But this mysterious Saviour of Sci-Fi declined to appear at a Soho screening of the episodes, sending a message from an unnamed distant land which read: “I cannot be with you as the search is endless. My work must continue.”
The six-part Enemy of The World, now complete with the discovery of five lost episodes, bursts with the energy of the Swinging Sixties.
Matt Smith’s latter-day giddy enthusiasm is reflected in Troughton’s playful splashing in the sea when the Tardis lands at sun-kissed Australian beach (actually Littlehampton in Sussex).
The Doctor and his kilted assistants, Jamie (Frazer Hines) and Victoria (Deborah Watling), are soon menaced by a sinister vehicle which floats across the sand. “It’s like a sea monster,” ventures Victoria. “No, it’s a Hovercraft,” the Doctor corrects her.
The fast-paced episode features much gun-play and a daring rescue by helicopter, piloted by plucky agent Astrid.
The Doctor, it emerges, bears a close resemblance to Salamander, a ruthless scientist/politician who claims to have solved global famine by redirecting the sun’s rays but is actually trying to take over the planet.
However, Troughton’s Doctor, sporting a skew-whiff bow-tie and Harry Hill wing collar, would really rather return to the beach than get involved in any saving-the-world heroics, before circumstances force his hand.
There’s a charm to this alien-free story, often lacking in the rebooted series, with its conscious delivery of “blockbuster” episodes to feed a global audience.
Mark Gatiss, a writer for the revived Doctor Who, said had “hoped and prayed” that missing episodes of the six-part Web Of Fear would one day turn up.
It is actually more a case of Doctor Where? as Troughton is nowhere to be seen in episode two, screened to the media.
The Yeti are running amok on the Underground. The Doctor is missing, presumed dead, after soldiers blast the tunnel and the claustrophobic atmosphere builds during the subterranean storyline.
“If only the Doctor would turn up,” bemoans Yeti-expert Professor Travers in a brave episode which proceeds without its title character – a decision forced on the writers when Troughton negotiated an extra week’s holiday for playing the dual role of Salamander in the earlier story.
The characters trapped underground include a newspaper journalist, accused of working for the “gutter press”, who has a reputation for “sensationalism” and “distorting the truth”. The episode aired months before Rupert Murdoch broke into Fleet Street by acquiring the News of the World and The Sun.
Morris, who recovered a total of nine episodes, can’t rest on these welcome additions to the Doctor Who canon – there are 97 more still unaccounted for.
The first four Doctor Who episodes from 1963 will be screened on BBC4 as part of the show's 50th anniversary celebrations next month.
Asked whether viewers might also see the recovered episodes, without having to pay Apple £1.89 per episode or £9.99 to download the complete stories, BBC Worldwide said licence-fee payers had already enjoyed a chance to watch the programmes in the late 60s.
It is the type of commercial deal, with the proceeds being ploughed back into licence fee funds, which the BBC will increasingly pursue under its Director General, Tony Hall.
So with reports of a further cache of Doctor Who episodes locked away in Ethiopia, it’s time for the archive Indiana Jones to spring into action once again. |
Bloody iTunes. |
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| Pietro_Mercurios Heuristically Challenged
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| Anome_ Faceless Man
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| Posted: 11-10-2013 09:30 Post subject: |
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They are downloading from iTunes as I type.
The missing episode of The Web of Fear apparently means that, sadly, the first appearance of one Colonel Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart is still missing. |
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5788 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 11-10-2013 09:43 Post subject: |
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Hurrah! She Who watches Over Lost Documents, The Muse of Papyri is kind!
But she could be kinder (nudge nudge) |
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| gncxx King-Size Canary
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| Posted: 11-10-2013 18:35 Post subject: |
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| Web of Fear, just as I was hoping! Excellent result. The other one seems to be ill-thought of as a failed attempt by DW to have a go at a James Bond adventure, but I'd be keen to see it anyway. I'm not on iTunes so I'll have to wait for the DVDs. |
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| eburacum Papo-Furado
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| Posted: 11-10-2013 21:54 Post subject: |
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I seem to remember Patrick Troughton as Salamander; he looked, and acted, completely different. Spooky.
Troughton was a very good actor, and he could do threatening parts quite well. His 'cosmic hobo' persona as Who was not the limit of his acting talent by any means. |
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| Peripart is only passing through
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| Posted: 12-10-2013 13:32 Post subject: |
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So, not at all surprisingly, "106 lost episodes found" turns out to be nearer 6! All the same, it's great news. I have vague recollections of reading the Target books of both "The Web of Fear" and "The Enemy of the World", so I'm looking forward to the DVD release. Maybe, as the stories were consecutive (and WoF still lacks one episode), we might get a double set. What am I saying? There's more money in two separate releases...
The implication is that other stuff was found as well, but such is the focus on Doctor Who in this story that everything else has to take a back seat. Still, there is clearly a huge interest in Dr Who, especially as the 50th anniversary approaches, and this sort of find makes great headlines. Not only that, but it keeps alive the slim hope that there are a decent few episodes still to be found. I don't imagine for one minute that they all survive, but I hope that enterprising souls keep on looking!
The BBC could be a bit more charitable, though:
| Quote: | | Asked whether viewers might also see the recovered episodes, without having to pay Apple £1.89 per episode or £9.99 to download the complete stories, BBC Worldwide said licence-fee payers had already enjoyed a chance to watch the programmes in the late 60s. |
Charming, especially as most of those who enjoy the news series weren't even born then. I was - just - but I wouldn't have been taking in much telly in 1968! Still, that's apparently my own fault.
Come on Beeb - isn't this exactly what BBC4 is for? Every now and again they repeat one or two old tales, but rarely. Why on earth, this year of all years, would they not consider repeating the whole show (starting with Pertwee and the advent of colour, possibly), to show all these folk who never saw the old show what it was all about? They might even sell a few more DVDs on the back of it... |
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| Anome_ Faceless Man
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| Posted: 12-10-2013 13:59 Post subject: |
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Frazer Hines called for the BBC to show them again.
Of course, he may be biased. After all he probably gets repeat fees for broadcast, but absolutely nothing from media sales. |
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| gordonrutter The Indescribable Horror that is a
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| Posted: 12-10-2013 14:37 Post subject: |
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Enemy of the World is available from the 25th of November on DVD (22nd if you're at the BBC Convention) and The Web of Fear is out in Feb of next year. Prelim cover art seems to say both are double disc sets but there are no details of any extras BBFC has classified the episodes for Enemy for release but nothing else.
I personally feel that more Dr Who has been recovered or is in the process of coming back but not announced yet.
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| Mythopoeika Boring petty conservative
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| Posted: 12-10-2013 15:16 Post subject: |
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| gordonrutter wrote: | | I personally feel that more Dr Who has been recovered or is in the process of coming back but not announced yet. |
You're probably right. They may be doing restoration/digitisation before they can do a DVD release. |
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| Fluttermoth Mrs Treguard
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| Posted: 12-10-2013 16:24 Post subject: |
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| There are certainly three posters on GB, whose information has proved correct so far, who reckon that a lot more has been found and that is either under negotiation to be returned, or has been returned and that is being restored atm. |
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