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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 14:31    Post subject: SEPTEMBER 11 – The History of 9/11 Reply with quote

SEPTEMBER 11 – THE HISTORY OF 9/11:

In 1998, 3 years before 9/11 the US government was advised that it would be necessary to replace Afghanistan's Taliban government before an essential oil pipeline could be built:

"So there will be no pipeline until there is an internationally regionized government"
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa48119.000/hfa48119_0.HTM

There are precedents for this sort of armed robbery before September 11:

"Oil played its part in a 1953 coup in Iran - organised by the US and Britain. They managed to overthrow an elected prime minister, Mohammed Mossadegh, and installed (the dictator) Shah Reza" - so we can see that regime change is about the control of natural resources - not about democracy or freedom. The same was true after 9/11.

And "in 1973 Washington drew up a plan to seize oilfields in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Abu Dhabi to counter an Arab oil embargo against the West. One recent study paper by an American military analyst even suggests that one day the United States and Europe might be in conflict over dwindling Middle East oil supplies." Wake up. This is happening now thanks to September 11.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/3625207.stm


In September 2001 - days before September 11 - the largest military 'exercise' of all time took place. Operation Saif Sareea II just happened to put the Afghanistan invasion force in place in time for 9/11. How convenient.
http://www.army.mod.uk/102brigade/exercises_and_deployments/saif_sareea.htm

"The UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) on 26 October announced that it is to contribute 4,200 personnel currently involved in Exercise 'Saif Sareea II' in Oman to provide further support for US-led coalition operations in Afghanistan."
http://www.janes.com/defence/naval_forces/news/jdw/jdw011029_1_n.shtml

"There has been a great deal of speculation in recent weeks – much of it ill-judged and unhelpful – about diverting our forces taking part in Exercise Saif Sareea II to conduct operations in and around Afghanistan." How convenient. What an incredible coincidence:
http://www.operations.mod.uk/veritas/statements/statement_26oct.htm

When 9/11 enabled the invasion of Afghanistan, the US-led coalition installed Hamed Karzai as the country's leader. Hamed Karzai was previously a consultant for the US oil company Unocal - the company that planned to build the Afghanistan oil pipeline.
All thanks to the September 11 attacks.
http://www.answers.com/topic/hamid-karzai
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2017044.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm

So we know that there was an intention to invade Afghanistan for the oil pipeline. We know that troops were sent to the region days before 9/11.

So what about September 11 itself? (Where to begin!?)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

On 9/11 - just like the later explosions in London on 7/7 - there was an identical exercise being conducted by the government. On September 11 there was an exercise dealing with aircraft colliding with buildings. On July 7 there was an exercise dealing with bombings at the exact same train stations that were actually bombed that day.

The leaseholder of the complex, Larry Silverstein, is on record as having authorised the demolition of building 7:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=Larry+Silverstein

He had just secured an insurance deal specifically paying out for terrorist attacks, making the disaster very valuable to him personally. Incidentally he was also a big supporter and fundraiser for Israel according to the Jerusalem Post:

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/jpost/access/902923581.html?dids=902923581:902923581&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT


US Government, The DoD, NORAD and FAA Lied to the 9/11 Comission:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/05/terror/main1868087.shtml

And one by one the 9/11 hijackers pulverised and incinerated in their planes, then pulverised again by the collapse of the twin towers, have started to turn up alive and well:

“Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well … Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September … He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm


The evidence is overwhelming. We’ve been lied to. It is physically impossible for the aircraft collisions and resulting fires to have caused the complete, symmetrical, high-speed collapse of the twin towers - let alone building 7, which collapsed shortly afterwards.

The really frightening thing is that there are indications the US & British regimes plan to invade Iran to complete the oil monopoly over the Afghanistan pipeline and the biggest and most accessible oilfields of the Middle East. Will this require another huge attack?

Look at the facts for yourself. A lot of people are making a lot of noise about this, using their own time and money. If you won't watch all of these then what are you afraid of? The truth?

September 11 Demolitions:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3249714675910247150

http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2006/04/911-painful-deceptions.html

http://fpidocument.blogspot.com/2005/12/call-911.html

http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2006/03/david-ray-griffin-911-commission.html

http://www.freepressinternational.com/911.html

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726

London - 7/7 Explosions:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/110705bombingexercises.htm

http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-downloads.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/london/index.htm

A former MI5 anti-terrorism expert made this film:

http://officialconfusion.com/77/mindthegap/Flash_400on2_64/mindthegap.html

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

People who claim the official propaganda is true always struggle to find evidence - because there is absolutely none whatsoever. Because the official story is physically impossible and full of gaping holes - unlike the pentagon wall which had two missing holes and two missing gashes where we are told two big heavy engines, two wings spanning 125 FEET and a tail of 44.5 FEET struck at enormous speed:

http://0911.site.voila.fr/compall.jpg


These experts know a lot more about the subject than us so we should listen:

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhyQuestion911.html

http://physics911.net/spine.htm

S.P.I.N.E. : The Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven

Derrick Grimmer
Ames, IA, USA
PhD: Washington University
Physics

David Shayler
Eastbourne, Great Britain
Hon MA Lit. & Linguistics
MI5 former anti-terrorism officer

David Heller
Berkeley, CA
BS: Physics Bard College
MA: S. F. Inst. Architecture
Architect and Builder

Lieut. Col. USAF (ret.)
Jerry Longspaugh
Fort Worth, TX, USA
MSc: Brooklyn Polytechnic
Aerospace Engineer

George F. Nelson
Huntsville, AL, USA
FAA A&P Licence
US Airforce Colonel (ret.)
Ralph W. Omholt
Kirkland, WA, USA
AAPP University of Alaska
Professional Airline Pilot

Peter J. Kirsch
Western Cape, South Africa
MD: University of Wi****ersrand
Forensic Pathology
Karen Kwiatkowski
Mt. Jackson, VA

A. K. Dewdney
London, Canada
PhD: U of Waterloo
Mathematics

Russ Wittenberg
Carefree, AZ
BBA U. of Miami FL
US Airforce Capt. (ret)
Captain for PAA & UAL
USC @ Santa Barbara
US Naval Intelligence

Jesse Hemingway
Al Cahon, CA, USA
BBA National University
(frmr.) USN Operations Specialist
Phil Jayhan
Chicago, IL, USA

Robert Ballan
Norwood, NY, USA
MSc & JD: Clarkson College
Chemistry & Law

Kevin Barrett
Lone Rock WI, USA PhD U of Wisconsin
Islamic Studies

Walter Davis
Kent, OH, USA
PhD: U of Connecticut
Kinesiology

Annie Higgins
Gainesville, FL
PhD University of Chicago
Arabic Language & Literature

Timothy P. Howell
Upsala, Sweden
PhD: U. of Edinburgh
Computer Science
Don Trent (Four Arrows) Jacobs
Sequim, WA
Ed. D. Boise State University
Professor, Fielding Graduate U

Steven E. Jones
Provo, Utah
PhD: Vanderbilt University
Physicist, Brigham Young U.
PhD Catholic University

Brad Mayeaux
Kenner, LA, USA
Electr. &Tech. Inst. of New Orleans
Cellphone Engineer

Morgan Reynolds
Arkansas, USA PhD: U of Wisconsin
former Chief Economist,
United States Department of Labor

Kevin Ryan
Bloomington, IN, USA
BSc Indiana University
Chemistry
ASQ Certified Quality Engineer

Nila Sagadevan
Laguna Hills, CA, USA
HBS U. of Edinburgh.
Aeronautical Engineer and Qualified Pilot

Bernard Windham
Tallahassee, FL, USA
MS Florida State
MS Louisiana State
Statistician

Karin Brothers
Toronto, Canada
MS Georgia State
Instructional Design Systems Engineer

John DiNardo
Towaco, NJ, USA
BA: Kean University
Science Education
Donald Eckhoff
Morgan Hill CA, USA

Drexel Institute of Technology
Engineer & manufacturer
Kenyon Gibson
London, England

(There's a lot more experts. I couldn't fit them in.)

http://physics911.net

Wake up. And tell everybody you can about this terrible crime. Because in spite of the huge and growing international cry of anger the corporate mass media is mysteriously silent. Wake the world for the anniversary of the 9-11 demolitions.


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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 14:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Oilwar, you might want to take a look at the smorgasbord of 9/11 threads we have already......

Welcome to the board.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 14:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the twilight zone Oilwar, nice to have you aboard the good ship sinkalot

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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 14:55    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thanks for making me feel so welcome. It's coming up to the anniversary and I had to get it all off my chest. Hopefully you'll find some new and/or interesting angles/evidence.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 15:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for making me feel so welcome. It's coming up to the anniversary and I had to get it all off my chest. Hopefully you'll find some new and/or interesting angles/evidence.


Theres usually plenty of angles unfortunatley they are usualy pointy and get rebuffed by the more sceptical members of the board ( naming no names)

It may help if we all put a brief where we stand to relation to 911 on the link.

I,ll start if everyones up for it.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 15:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again, as has been mentioned, we have significant amounts of discussion about this very subject, so it might be worthwhile oilwar reading through them in oder to avoid repetition.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 15:16    Post subject: Everybody's Position Reply with quote

Everybody posting their position sounds like a great idea but perhaps I'm biased as a newcomer here. I have browsed the existing threads but there's a whole lot of material there.

I think I've made it pretty clear where I stand. The hole in the pentagon was demonstrably too small for the aircraft and buildings don't collapse symetrically or in freefall without explosives and/or 'thermite'.

No building in history has ever collapsed into its footprint symetrically and at maximum speed under G without explosives. And none ever will. It's physically impossible.

Just to illustrate how weak the argument in favour of the official propaganda actually is, sceptics actually cite McCormick Place as another example of fire causing demolition - just showing hiw desperate they are for evidence. This is truly foolish because McCormick Place did not - repeat DID NOT collapse. The roof fell in, that's all.

Here is a photo showing the building after the fire. Other than the roof - which you can still see - it's intact:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/mccormick.html

The roof collapsed. The building did not demolish itself like the twin towers and building 7 because that's physically impossible unless you rig a building with explosives.

Why would you compare a building that had its roof damaged to a building that symetrically and completely demolishes itself? Because you have no option - because - demolitions aside - the 9/11 self-demolitions were unique in history - because total symetrical self-demolition is physically impossible without explosives and/or 'thermite'.

Concrete and steel do not shred into dust and short sections unless you blast them and/or cut the steel with thermite.

Buildings don't demolish themselves. So somebody did it.

Let's revive the debate for the anniversary.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 15:22    Post subject: Re: Everybody's Position Reply with quote

oilwar wrote:
Buildings don't demolish themselves. So somebody did it.

Let's revive the debate for the anniversary.


I don't wish to be dismissive but all of your points have been covered in the threads, feel free to add your opinions to them.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 15:27    Post subject: OK Reply with quote

If anybody does care to generously add their opinion for my benefit I'd be most grateful.

I hope you like the videos, I selected my favourites.
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I agree - we have covered all of this stuff in alot of detail, so you may need to read all of that, oilwar. You may have somethig new to add to those threads, but I'd argue that you should read through them first just to be sure that you're not going over old, well-trodden ground.
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Jerry_B wrote:
Then again, as has been mentioned, we have significant amounts of discussion about this very subject, so it might be worthwhile oilwar reading through them in oder to avoid repetition.


Yes and then perhaps it can be merged with one of the headless monsters that is an existing 9/11 conspiracy thread.

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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 15:29    Post subject: Re: OK Reply with quote

oilwar wrote:
If anybody does care to generously add their opinion for my benefit I'd be most grateful..


Oilwar, it would be better if you expound your views in the appropriate thread, that way we can all keep track of the various disaparate parts of the 9/11 CT.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 16:15    Post subject: Which Thread Reply with quote

So far as I can tell there doesn't seem to be a single 9/11 thread, there seem to be loads.

I'd be delighted if we could reignite the whole debate here.
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oilwar wrote:
So far as I can tell there doesn't seem to be a single 9/11 thread, there seem to be loads.

I'd be delighted if we could reignite the whole debate here.


The point of having loads is that there isn't a single 9/11 conspiracy being vaunted.

And covering the same ground again on a whole new thread oddly doesn't appeal.....
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PostPosted: 08-09-2006 16:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oilwar - it would definitely be worth your while reading through those threads. I know it's alot of stuff to wade though, but as far as I can tell all of the points you've raised thus far WRT 9/11/ have been covered from various angles in the various threads.
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