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Posted: 27-03-2002 16:12 Post subject: JFK - Kennedy assassination etc

Apolgies, ment to post this a few week earleir but forgot.
This is a quote from a BBC story covering the release of a portion of Nixon's 'secret tapes', in which he recorded all conversations in the Oval Office.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_184800
'In the same conversation, Nixon gave new fodder for conspiracy theorists who question whether Lee Harvey Oswald was the only shooter involved in the assassination of President John Kennedy.
Referring to the report by the Warren Commission, "it was the greatest hoax that has ever been perpetuated," Nixon said. He did not elaborate why he questioned the report'.
Seeing that old tricky Dicky was in Dallas the day JFK died, maybe he had good reason to question the Warren Commission.

Posted: 16-06-2002 19:28 Post subject: JFK's Driver

At risk of being told to RTFM and RTFT, does anyone know or know where to find out anything about the driver of JFK's car the day he got assasinated. The car to my mind deliberately slowed down and set JFK up ( Not that he was a difficult target, except from the book depository of course!) Yet I do not remember even coming accross any references to him or any questioning of him.
Thanks in advance to anyone who cam shed any light.

Posted: 17-06-2002 15:50 Post subject:

The driver was William Greer, of the Secret Service White House Detail.

Here is his testimony to the Warren Commision:
http://www.jmasland.com/testimony/secret%20service/greer.htm

Posted: 17-06-2002 16:20 Post subject:

Well he doesn't sound bright enough to be involved in any kind of conspiracy.

Posted: 17-06-2002 19:58 Post subject:

The hesitation is a natural reaction and nothing sinister. Supposedly it is a technique of assassins using the triangulation of fire tactic for one to do the first shot and as the target freezes or hesitates for the others to open fire on the stationary target. Whether you subscribe to the LN theory or the multiple gunmen theory the driver would still hesitate for a moment. Smile

Posted: 17-06-2002 23:07 Post subject:

There's even the theories that the driver himself shot Kennedy.

http://people.fix.no/pudding/burton/kennedy/secret.html

Posted: 17-06-2002 23:17 Post subject:

The driver only slowed down because he spotted David Icke's dad brandishing a turqoise shell suit. Those things were pretty fly back then, like Nike Windjammers were in the 80's.

Posted: 17-06-2002 23:39 Post subject:

Posted: 17-06-2002 23:47 Post subject:

Stupidity is rarely a cul-de-sac. It is more a service station which, though distracting and adding time onto the journey, offers light refreshments, rendering the whole trip a rather more pleasent one. Though I would avoid the Ginster's pasties.

Posted: 17-06-2002 23:53 Post subject:

Possibly nearing the end of a journey, but not at the begining.

Posted: 17-06-2002 23:59 Post subject:

The beginning and the end of a journey are surely the same. Only in the middle does anything change.

Posted: 18-06-2002 00:04 Post subject:

Posted: 20-06-2002 21:09 Post subject:

Thankyou naitaka Fireclown and Ogopogo. The testimony of william greer will take me sometime to read and inwardly digest but thanks again. As for the hesitation all I can say is twice I have thought I was under or going to be under immediate fire whilst driving and I certainly like to think I had no hesitiation at all ( Fortunately I was wrong both times so maybe that does not count). The Site about heim shooting JFK is interesting ..for other stories as well. As for journeys, only when returning to the same point are they (the beginning and end) the same. Most journeys of intrest take you to another destination. And yes unfortunately alot of people? seem to try to divert the original threads on these forums. But its more or less the same everywhere so just humour them. Sometimes they are even funny.

Posted: 09-07-2002 11:28 Post subject: Who wacked bad back Jack?

Its a bit of a old chestnut, but I am interested in people's thoughts on who actually killed JFK

Posted: 09-07-2002 18:36 Post subject:

At the time there was a motley crew of Batista supporting anti communist Cubans, Mafia men who wanted Cuba back the way it was which was very profitable and were furious at the Kennedy's cracking down on them after the mafia had been so 'helpful' in the election campaign and a bunch of contract CIA (CIA have strong links with American oil companies and their ruling elite)guys who were funding and directing the anti Castro operations. All of these far right loonies were very angry over the Bay Of Pigs fiasco in which some of their associates were killed. Some of them were angry enough to kill him.

Oswald. American marine. Taught Russian at US military base then quickly discharged and defects to the USSR. Yeah right. Comes home two years later and gets involved in the political scene in New Orleans. Sometimes he portrays himself as a communist at other times he shows up on the other side. Some people now say he was working for the FBI as an informant on gun running. Others present facts pointing to Oswald being CIA. Neither are conclusive but it appears he was working for the govt. or hoped to provide enough information so they would hire him.

Garrison was a grandstanding wannabe and has no stature in this case at all these days. The Warren Commission is laughed at. The Senate Committee in the late seventies concluded that Oswald was the assassin and that it probably was a conspiracy. The current state of play is that the SBT (Single Bullet Theory) has now been conceded last week by the leading LN (Lone Nutters) theorist John McAdams and Warren Commission supporters as not true. Still, they kept us argueing over a farcical theory for nearly forty years while the trail went cold and has now virtually gone which I suspect was the idea. On the CT (Conspiracy Theory) side are a bunch of paranoid loonies writing nutty books, unscrupulous shysters out to make a buck and a few brave and dedicated investigators and academics willing to trash their career by researching forbidden territory.

We will never know for sure. There are 6 or seven people I am deeply suspicious of and the tough Russian speaking ex marine named Oswald is definitely one of them.