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ArthurASCII Hello Playmates
Cheeky chappie Joined: 26 Feb 2002 Total posts: 2893 Location: Letsbe Avenue Age: 59 Gender: Male |
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| beakboo Great Old One Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Total posts: 1084 Location: The Home for Bewildered Gentlebeaks, St Peter's Close. Age: 50 Gender: Female |
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I can.  He does look lovely, but given the right circumstances you just don't know. My aunt had a fabulously soft dog, rolled around the floor with the kids, well known in the neighbourhood for being generally gorgeous and soppy. Bit a bloody policeman. Trouble was the idiot policeman playfully pretended to take his bone away from him. |
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| escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17709 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 3 Gender: Female |
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| drbastard Great Old One Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Total posts: 516 Location: South West Age: 71 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 07-01-2007 16:02 Post subject: |
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Those dogs look hungry for human flesh.
| wembley8 wrote: | | drbastard wrote: | | On the BSE question: a relatively small number of domesticated animals undoubtedly developed the equivalent of BSE in the 80's, and they probably went unreported as vets would not have had an understanding of what they were dealing with. |
Why do you say that? AFAIK vets have a pretty good understanding of this - the species jump was a hot topic in the vet world at the time - and the feline equivalent has been tracked for some time. |
There are a number of reasons I think this, but in terms of personal experience I one owned a cat which almost certainly got it circa 1985; vet was clueless, cue months of expensive non-treatment, until in the end they offered to send said cat off to be tested. We declined and had the poor creature put out of its misery.
| Quote: | | In any case, what would this have to do with attacks? |
Nothing, that's my point. Its mention relates to the original posters question. |
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| wembley8 Home of Legends Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Total posts: 2001 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 07-01-2007 20:32 Post subject: |
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| drbastard wrote: | There are a number of reasons I think this, but in terms of personal experience I one owned a cat which almost certainly got it circa 1985; vet was clueless, cue months of expensive non-treatment, until in the end they offered to send said cat off to be tested. We declined and had the poor creature put out of its misery.
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I'm sorry about the cat (we had a cat with a brain problem, and were helped by the sainted Danielle Gunn-Moore - http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1807942006 ); there are lots of other conditions which it might have been and FSE only appeared in the UK in 1990 (it's also very rare with 87 cases as the last count). |
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| Kondoru Unfeathered Biped Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 5719 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 08-01-2007 00:36 Post subject: |
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What I find curious is the anount of posties who are terrified of dogs. (or who, conversley, I have witnessed doing stupid things)
I have done delivery many a year and never had any trouble.
(I am, I will say, careful around lapdogs) |
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| tonyblair11 Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Total posts: 2071 |
| Posted: 08-01-2007 11:59 Post subject: |
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I know people can get BSE from squirrel brains, but I don't know if it is transmissable to dogs and cats.
(I love German Shepherds. Buddy of mine has an all black one that is on of my better friends.) |
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| Quake42 Warrior Princess
Great Old One Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Total posts: 5212 Location: Over Silbury Hill, through the Solar field Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 08-01-2007 12:21 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I know people can get BSE from squirrel brains, but I don't know if it is transmissable to dogs and cats. |
Cats were certainly infected in the 90s. I haven't heard of any cases of dogs being infected. |
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Peripart is only passing through
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| Posted: 08-01-2007 12:55 Post subject: |
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| tonyblair11 wrote: | | I know people can get BSE from squirrel brains... |
Do you know whether this was red squirrels or grey? I don't want to cut them out of my diet entirely unless it's really necessary. |
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| escargot1 Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Total posts: 17709 Location: Farkham Hall Age: 3 Gender: Female |
| Posted: 08-01-2007 13:00 Post subject: |
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| I just paint them all green. Saves a lot of trouble. |
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| wembley8 Home of Legends Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Total posts: 2001 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 08-01-2007 14:38 Post subject: |
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[quote="tonyblair11"]I know people can get BSE from squirrel brains, but I don't know if it is transmissable to dogs and cats.[quote]
It is believed (but unproven) that you can get a CJD varient (ie not BSE) from squirrel brains - but the causal connection is not proven.
http://www.uga.edu/scwds/topic_index/1997/RECENT~1.pdf
In fact, this one seems to be mainly folklore -
"Spongiform encephalopathy never has been described in squirrels nor in any wild animals that commonly consume squirrels. At present, there has been no causal relationship demonstrated between squirrel brain consumption and CJD. The Kentucky researcher hastened to admit his own skepticism at the observed association and acknowledged that much more information must be gathered before such an association could be confirmed."
And as far as I can tell there is no spongiform encephalopathy in dogs.
The dog is, as a rule, not the problem... |
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| gncxx King-Size Canary
Great Old One Joined: 25 Aug 2001 Total posts: 13303 Location: Eh? Gender: Male |
| Posted: 04-08-2007 17:11 Post subject: |
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Full story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6930953.stm
| Quote: | Actor's dogs 'kill his caretaker'
Dogs belonging to Mission: Impossible actor Ving Rhames have apparently mauled a man to death at the star's home, authorities have said.
The 40-year-old victim, who lived on the property and worked as a caretaker, has not been named.
He was found dead on the front lawn of Rhames' gated Los Angeles home covered in dog bites, a police spokesman said.
Three Bull Mastiffs and an English bulldog were taken away by animal services following the discovery.
"Two of those dogs appeared to be responsible for the tragic death," said police officer Jason Lee, adding that "several" dogs remained at the property. |
Is it true there are no bad pets, only bad owners? |
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| wembley8 Home of Legends Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Total posts: 2001 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 05-08-2007 15:46 Post subject: |
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| gncxx wrote: | | Is it true there are no bad pets, only bad owners? |
For dogs yes, the dog's behaviour is down to how it is brought up and trained.
With animals that are not trained, it gets trickier...but I still don't know I'd describe a pirana as 'bad' if it bit someone. |
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| ArthurASCII Hello Playmates
Cheeky chappie Joined: 26 Feb 2002 Total posts: 2893 Location: Letsbe Avenue Age: 59 Gender: Male |
| Posted: 05-08-2007 19:02 Post subject: |
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| wembley8 wrote: | | gncxx wrote: | | Is it true there are no bad pets, only bad owners? |
For dogs yes, the dog's behaviour is down to how it is brought up and trained.
With animals that are not trained, it gets trickier...but I still don't know I'd describe a pirana as 'bad' if it bit someone. |
I disagree. Animals can be bred for aggression. A good owner can make a great difference, but there may be a predisposition. |
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| wembley8 Home of Legends Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Total posts: 2001 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: 06-08-2007 18:45 Post subject: |
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| ArthurASCII wrote: | | A good owner can make a great difference, but there may be a predisposition. |
Agreed, but as far as dogs go, there are none that aren't safe if well trained.
And if an owner does allow a badly-trained and potentially dangerous dog out without a muzzle (or puts it into a car alone with a small child...), then the owner is the problem. |
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