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Posted: 11-04-2002 20:23 Post subject: Hitler's Jig

Sounds like a folk band I know!

I've recently read a couple of Alan Furst's novels in one of which he suggests that the famous film that appears to show Hitler dancing a funny little jig on the fall of France in WW2 was in fact doctored by the British secret services to make Adolf appear ludicrous and deranged (?!??).

Furst's books are based in Europe just prior to and during WW2 and although they are works of fiction they are very well researched. I have never heard this particular suggestion before. Has anyone else and if they have do they have any sources for it?

Posted: 12-04-2002 09:07 Post subject:

I remember reading a similar claim in a biography of George Orwell (he used to work for the Ministry of Propaganda). I think they speeded it up.
Alan Furst books are top notch. They should stop making crappy series about doctors,vets and coppers, and make a series of Night Soldiers.

Posted: 12-04-2002 09:50 Post subject:

My BF has studied WW2 history and apparently it is true that the footage we have of Hitler making speeches etc is slightly speeded up. It was done to make him look like a silly arm-waving German so that the British public wouldn't take him seriously. I don't know if there is any undoctored footage still left anywhere, but the clips most commonly seen have been altered.

Razorwire

Posted: 12-04-2002 11:00 Post subject:

The story I remember about this was that Hitler was photographed in midstep and the photo was published in the wartime British press with the caption stating that he was doing a little victory dance to celebrate some horrible occurence (can't remember what). I've also come across a few references in various places to a WW2 British black propoganda unit that came up with capers like this. Anybody know more?

Posted: 12-04-2002 11:33 Post subject:

Posted: 12-04-2002 11:34 Post subject:

I've seen it before. It's quite obviously a looped sequence, and poorly looped at that.

From this website:

http://archives.obs-us.com/obs/english/books/rawlins/moths/infinite/3.html

Posted: 12-04-2002 14:05 Post subject:

I think in the orgiginal film he made a clenched fist gesture and stamped his foot in what looks like extreme satisfaction at something.

There was a short film of the 40's which was probably shown in British cinemas, showing Nazi soldiers goosestepping and Hitler and his henchmen nazi saluting and so on. This was all cleverly (for the time) doctored so that they marched backwards and forwards and saluted in time to the tune of the Lambeth Walk.

Carole

Posted: 12-04-2002 20:27 Post subject:

Can I confirm which one we're talking about.... Is it the footage which shows Hitler on his balcony-ish thingy at Butches Garden?

Posted: 17-04-2002 13:32 Post subject:

[URL=?[URL=http://www.webcorp.com/video/videoarchive.htm ]http://www.webcorp.com/video/videoarchive.htm [/URL]

Is it the one about halfway down on the page linked to above?

Doesn't look very looped to me ... shame really, I was quite looking forward to a good laugh!

Posted: 17-04-2002 14:24 Post subject:

Posted: 17-04-2002 14:39 Post subject:

I've seen a pic that is supposed to be of Hitler dancing. You see him with one leg in the air and laughing.

Posted: 17-04-2002 14:42 Post subject:

Posted: 17-04-2002 14:54 Post subject:

(PS: GU does *not* stand for"Genito-Urinary", although if it did, then that would be the ideal place to ask about Hitler's alleged monorchidism) Very Happy

Posted: 30-04-2002 08:01 Post subject: Loop the loop?

The monochrome sequence following the fall of France is a short loop played back and forth from forward to reverse and slightly speeded up to make Hitler appear to do a jig.

The more convincing is the later colour sequence taken on the outdoor baclony of the Berghof at Berchtesgaden. Here Hitler appears to be doing a genuine jig for joy, albeit momentarily.

Posted: 12-12-2004 03:53 Post subject: