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PostPosted: 14-04-2012 09:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitt Romney plays to NRA interests in bid to win over conservative base
Address to annual meeting of gun lobbying group focuses on anti-Obama rhetoric and an assurance to protect gun rights
Ed Pilkington in New York and Ewen MacAskill in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Friday 13 April 2012 21.26 BST

Mitt Romney sought to win over the arch-conservative membership of the National Rifle Association by promising to be the protector of American freedoms and accusing President Obama of launching a stealth attack on the constitutional right to bear arms.

Addressing the NRA's annual convention in St Louis, Missouri, Romney tried to assuage doubts about his commitment to America's love affair with the gun by peppering his speech with references to the US constitution and liberal use of the word "freedom".

He also adopted the NRA's own language by warning that were Obama granted a second term in the White House he would unleash an assault on gun ownership rights in the US. That is precisely the NRA's lobbying argument, despite the fact that Obama has steered almost entirely clear of the gun issue in the past three years to the disappointment of gun control advocates.

"In his second term, [Obama] would be unrestrained by the terms of re-election," Romney said. "Who will stand up for the rights of hunters and sportsmen, and those who act to protect their families? President Obama has not. I will."

Romney paid lip service to the fact that Obama has proved to be non-interventionist on the gun issue, but that did not prevent him from accusing the White House of planning a secret conspiracy. "The right to bear arms is so plainly stated, so unambiguous, that liberals have a hard time challenging it directly. Instead, they've been employing every imaginable ruse and ploy to restrict it," he said.

The NRA's annual meeting kicked off Friday with a display of high-powered assault weapons more customarily seen in Afghanistan or Iraq than in downtown St Louis. The event, expected to be attended by 70,000 NRA members, attracted a slew of top Republicans keen to solidify ties with this core conservative following.

In the run-up to the event the NRA has been filling its warchests for an election campaign in which it expects to spend up to $30m opposing the president's re-election. It has launched a nationwide campaign to sway the presidential election called Trigger the Vote.

It has also been ramping up its rhetoric against Obama, who it depicts as anti-freedom and anti-gun rights. Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's executive vice-president, has been leading the verbal assault with ever more shrill language.
In an article in the NRA's magazine, America's 1st Freedom, he writes that "this year's election could prove the most disastrous in the history of this country". He warns that Obama is dedicated to dismantling the second amendment – the right to keep and bear arms.

Contrary to LaPierre's dire forebodings, Obama has barely spoken on the subject of guns since he entered the White House, and gun controls have been rolled back during his term by seminal US supreme court rulings.

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PostPosted: 22-06-2012 07:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is actually about drug trafficking, but what a bonkers way to go about it:

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate
By Tim Stanley US politics Last updated: June 21st, 2012

Fast and furious hasn’t been discussed a lot in the mainstream media, which is why the facts can seem so preposterous when you read them for the first time. But the story is slowly unraveling and the public is catching up with the madness. On Wednesday, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt over his decision to withhold documents related to the “gun walking” operation – documents that President Obama tried to keep secret by invoking executive privilege. The question of why the Prez intervened in this way will surely hang over the investigation and the White House for many months to come. Be patient, conservatives. It took nearly eight months for the Watergate break in to become a national news story. But when it finally did, it toppled a President.

Here’s what Fast and Furious is all about – and for the uninitiated, be prepared for a shock. In 2009, the US government instructed Arizona gun sellers illegally to sell arms to suspected criminals. Agents working for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) were then ordered not to stop the sales but to allow the arms to “walk” across the border into the arms of Mexican drug-traffickers. According to the Oversight Committee’s report, “The purpose was to wait and watch, in hope that law enforcement could identify other members of a trafficking network and build a large, complex conspiracy case…. [The ATF] initially began using the new gun-walking tactics in one of its investigations to further the Department’s strategy. The case was soon renamed ‘Operation Fast and Furious.”

Tracing the arms became difficult, until they starting appearing at bloody crime scenes. Many Mexicans have died from being shot by ATF sanctioned guns, but the scandal only became public after a US federal agent, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, was killed by one of them in a fire fight. ATF whistle blowers started to come forward and the Department of Justice was implicated. It’s estimated that the US government effectively supplied 1,608 weapons to criminals, at a total value of over $1 million. Aside from putting American citizens in danger, the AFT also supplied what now amounts to a civil war within Mexico.

It’s important to note that the Bush administration oversaw something similar to Fast and Furious. Called Operation Wide Receiver, it used the common tactic of “controlled delivery,” whereby agents would allow an illegal transaction to take place, closely follow the movements of the arms, and then descend on the culprits. But Fast and Furious is different because it was “uncontrolled delivery,” whereby the criminals were essentially allowed to drop off the map. Perhaps more importantly, Wide Receiver was conducted with the cooperation of the Mexican government. Fast and Furious was not.

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100166854/the-fast-and-furious-scandal-is-turning-into-president-obamas-watergate/
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PostPosted: 20-07-2012 16:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Batman US cinema shooting: 12 dead in Colorado

At least 12 people have been killed and dozens wounded in a shooting at a midnight cinema showing of the new Batman film near Denver, Colorado.
Witnesses said a man wearing a gas mask opened fire after tossing a tear gas canister in the auditorium as movie-goers watched The Dark Knight Rises.

A 24-year-old former medical student was arrested in a car park nearby. He had a rifle, handgun and knife.
Another gun was recovered from the theatre, in the city of Aurora.

Police revised down the death toll from 14 earlier. They said about 50 people had been shot, including the deceased.

FBI sources named the gunman as Aurora resident James Holmes, a white American. They said no terrorism link had been established.
Police said he had been a student at the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Denver until he dropped out last month.

US President Barack Obama has spoken of his shock at the incident, which began at about 00:30 local time (06:30 GMT) at the Century 16 cinema multiplex.

Acting on information from the suspect, the authorities said they had discovered his home in the north of Aurora was booby-trapped with flammable and explosive material.
The apartment complex was evacuated as FBI agents and police used a fire engine ladder to reach the property, and put a camera on the end of pole to look inside.

Police chief Dan Oates said the massacre was "a horrific event".
"The shooting apparently went on for some time," he added.

Witnesses said the gunman opened fire during an action scene in the summer blockbuster.
The gunman was described as wearing a bullet-proof vest and riot gear, an outfit similar to that of the villain Bane in The Dark Knight Rises.
There was chaos as movie-goers, some dressed in costume as heroes and villains, fled.

Ten people were killed at the cinema and two others died later in hospital of their wounds.
Many ambulances attended the scene.

About 50 people, some in a critical condition, were taken to four hospitals. Several victims were reportedly suffering from the effects of chemical exposure from the canister thrown by the gunman.
The casualties included a four-month-old baby, who was released from hospital after treatment, and a six-year-old child.

One witness said the gunman had been "slowly making his way up the stairs and just firing - picking random people".

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Colorado gun laws

Residents allowed to keep guns in homes, offices and vehicles, but can only carry them in public with a permit

There are no limits to how many guns can be bought a month, and the state permits sale of automatic weapons

No waiting period for buying a handgun, both state and federal state law requires criminal background checks

Since 1998 Columbine massacre, 20 miles from scene of Friday's shooting, it has become easier to buy guns in US - a national ban on assault weapons sale expired in 2004

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492
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PostPosted: 25-07-2012 21:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here's the bizarre paradox that follows:

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Since Friday's attack firearms sales have surged across America with buyers saying they want to be able to protect themselves.

In Colorado gun sales are up more than 40 per cent. Elsewhere, in the states of Florida, California and Oregon, sales have risen more than 10 per cent.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9427455/Batman-shooter-James-Holmes-sent-notebook-of-plans-to-psychiatrist-before-massacre.html
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PostPosted: 26-07-2012 07:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama calls for gun control deal in wake of Colorado cinema shootings
US president takes election risk, saying parties should co-operate and assault weapons 'do not belong on our streets'
Reuters in New Orleans
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 July 2012 03.59 BST

Barack Obama has broken the silence he has maintained on gun control since the Colorado shootings, making a plea for Democrats, Republicans and community leaders to "arrive at a consensus" on how to reduce gun violence across the United States.

At the end of a trip lasting several days that began in Aurora, Colorado, where he met with families and victims of the massacre in a cinema, the US president told an audience that such tragedies were replayed on a smaller scale in cities throughout the country on a daily basis.
"Every day and a half the number of young people we lose to violence is about the same as the number of people we lost in that movie theater," Obama said in remarks at the National Urban League Conference in New Orleans.
"I'm going to continue to work with members of both parties and with religious groups and with civic organisations to arrive at a consensus around violence reduction."

Discussing or even touching on the issue of gun control in the US during an election year is risky, and Obama has been careful to avoid making sweeping proposals that could offend gun owners and rally his Republican opponents.
The president made a point of emphasising his support for the US constitution's second amendment, which outlines the right to bear arms.
"We recognise the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation, that hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage," Obama said.

"But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals. That they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities."

Obama did not make any new proposals on gun control in his remarks, though he said background checks for people seeking to buy firearms were more thorough since he took office.

Mitt Romney, Obama's Republican opponent in the 6 November election, has said additional laws would not have stopped the massacre in Colorado. The former governor of Massachusetts has backed gun control measures in the past.

Obama noted that the political appetite to tackle the issue was low. "Too often those efforts are defeated by politics and by lobbying and eventually by the pull of our collective attention elsewhere," he said.
"Other steps to reduce violence have been met with opposition in Congress. This has been true for some time, particularly when it touches on the issue of guns."

Twelve people were killed and 58 wounded when a gunman opened fire at a screening of the latest Batman movie in the Denver suburb of Aurora.
The assassination attempt on then-congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in January 2011, in which six people were killed and 14 wounded, also sparked a debate over how to reduce violence.

Obama has little political incentive to take on the issue of guns more directly. He is trying to shore up support among white working-class men in political battleground states such as Virginia, where a robust message on gun control would not be likely to help him politically.

His message was well received by the mostly black audience in New Orleans, however, and Obama's visit was meant to court that group ahead of the election.

The National Urban League released a report recently that said although black people voted overwhelmingly for Obama in 2008, if that vote dropped even five percentage points this year it could tip the outcome in some vital states.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/26/obama-gun-control-deal-aurora
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Election silence over Trayvon Martin and America's guns

Despite being one of the biggest stories in America this year, the BBC's Raphael Rowe found that there is one subject that neither candidate in this year's presidential election wants to talk about - guns.

The shooting death of black teenager Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman in a gated community in Florida in February led to a fierce debate about racial profiling, justice and the easy availability of guns.

It also raised questions not just about America's gun culture, but the lobby effort that led to the creation of the so-called "stand your ground" laws that we have come to learn so much about.
They are now in place in 24 states, with Florida being the first.

The law expands on a centuries-old British legal principle that permits the use of deadly force in self-defence of your own home. It also grants immunity from arrest, detention and prosecution.

Under Florida's "stand your ground", Mr Zimmerman was initially freed without charges, but following an outcry that included street protests reminiscent of the civil rights movement, the local police chief was sacked and the prosecutor quit the case.

After a further review, Mr Zimmerman was charged six weeks later with second degree murder and is currently free on bail awaiting trial. His lawyers say their case will be based on self-defence, not stand your ground, arguing that their client was being attacked when he fatally shot the 17-year-old schoolboy.

Professor Mark Hoekstra of Texas A&M University in Houston said making the use of deadly force permissible has come at a price. He studied its effect in 21 states.
"In terms of homicides, what we show…there is about an 8% increase in the homicide rate caused by these laws…that is about 600 additional homicides per year."

Florida's bill was co-written by the National Rifle Association (NRA), the powerful pro-gun lobby that has a membership of almost 4m and an annual budget of $300m (£187m).
Their efforts have been largely successful. In most states, anyone over 18 can walk into a gun shop and buy a gun. The number of guns that are privately owned in America is staggering, there are 90 guns for every 100 people and carrying a concealed weapon is legal in 49 states across America.

In Florida, George Zimmerman was legally carrying a concealed handgun on the night Trayvon Martin was killed.

The driving force behind the rollout of "stand your ground" bills in legislatures across America was an umbrella organisation called the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a conservative, pro-business group that receives funding from the NRA and is 98% funded by corporate and sponsor donations.
With a $7m budget (£4.4m) and more than 2,000 members or sponsors, the NRA took its model bill to ALEC to push upon state legislators.

The Trayvon Martin killing has caused critics to claim that ALEC has undue influence and question what they say is an unhealthy relationship between legislatures, the NRA and corporate America.

Lisa Graves, executive director of the Center for Media and Democracy, called ALEC a "corporate bill mill" and said large corporations - including large British-based multinationals such as BP, GlaxoSmithKline and AstraZeneca - that give money to ALEC are helping to fund their lobbying efforts, regardless of whether or not they have any interest in being part of the pro-gun lobby.
"Their money helps support ALEC's overall operations, its propaganda machine and its efforts to get these bills pushed in state houses across the country."

In a statement, ALEC said it has disbanded its committee that pushed "stand your ground" laws out to legislators and has no current policies on the law.

Scott Maxwell, a columnist for the Orlando Sentinel newspaper who has covered the Trayvon Martin killing extensively, said the level of influence of groups such as ALEC is worrying.
"We're reached a point in this…country where legislators and congressmen aren't the ones writing their bills any more...the corporations or these think tanks are and that's a scary thought…in some regards democracy is increasingly in this country, for sale."

Despite other recent high profile gun crimes, including June's mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado during a screening of the new Batman film that left 12 dead, the wider issue of gun control, the reach of the gun lobby and the "stand your ground" laws are all seemingly off-limits in this election season.

While both President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney spoke out about a search for answers amid the media storm that followed the Trayvon Martin shooting - which took place in a key battleground state - the silence since has been notable.

Political columnist Roger Simons gave his take on the reasons why the two presidential candidates remain silent: "They're afraid, they are afraid to lose voters. It is the rare politician in America, even liberal politicians, who will vocally support increased gun control."

Panorama: Kill at Will? America on Trial is on BBC One, Monday, 15 October at 20:30 BST and then available in the UK only on theBBC iPlayer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19925409
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US guns sales soar after Barack Obama's re-election
Gun sales in America are soaring in the wake of President Barack Obama's re-election with weapons retailers reporting AK-47s flying off shelves "like hotcakes."
By Nick Allen, Los Angeles
5:58PM GMT 11 Nov 2012

Owners of guns have been stocking up because they are concerned about a potential tightening of regulations on assault weapons in the president's second term.
In October the number of background checks on people applying to buy guns, an indicator of future sales, increased by 18.4 per cent.

There was a similar jump when President Obama was first elected in 2008. A total of 12.7 million background checks were carried out that year, up from 11.2 million the year before, and the number has been rising since then.
Shares in weapons manufacturers like Smith & Wesson and Sturm, Ruger also surged after Mr Obama's re-election.

The gun control debate in America was re-ignited by the July 20 massacre at a cinema in Aurora, Colorado, in which suspect James Holmes is accused of killing 12 people and injuring 58 during a screening of Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises." He used a semi-automatic rifle with a 100-round magazine.

During the election campaign Mr Obama mostly steered clear of discussing gun control, but in a presidential debate on Oct 16 he gave his clearest statement yet on the issue.
He said: "What I'm trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced."

President Bill Clinton introduced had restrictions limiting the use of semi-automatic weapons in 1994, but the ban expired in 2004. Under the Clinton-era ban magazines with more than 10 rounds, and weapons with threaded barrels, pistol grips and bayonets were prohibited.

Mr Obama would still have to get any new restrictions past Republicans in Congress, but gun owners say they fear a limiting of their right to bear arms which is enshrined in the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

Mel Bernstein, owner of Dragonman Arms in Colorado Springs, told KOAA-TV that sales of semi-automatic weapons had boomed in recent days.
He said: "We're going from normally six to eight guns a day, to 25. I stocked up, I got a stockpile of these AK-47s, we're selling these like hot cakes. Luckily I had an idea of what was going on because it happened with Clinton."
Mr Bernstein said he normally orders up to 7,000 rounds a week from distributors but could now only get hold of 3,000 because of demand.

John Kielbasa, owner of Fernwood Firearms in Hankins, New York, told CNN: "Sales are up. I had a guy waiting here first thing in the morning (the day after the election.) He came in, bought two AK-47s. It's going to be good for me for business." Evil or Very Mad

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9670585/US-guns-sales-soar-after-Barack-Obamas-re-election.html
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I can understand why someone would want a pistol, shotgun, hunting rifle. But why an AK-47?
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They are fashionable.

Why do we need to see this stuff on our media??

Is it, as I suspect, because nothing ever happens in this country?
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I didn't know the USA had any gun laws, I thought it was just a big free-for-all
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ramonmercado wrote:
I can understand why someone would want a pistol, shotgun, hunting rifle. But why an AK-47?


They can still shoot even when they're treated like shit. You favourite weapon of choice for any third world country dictator keeping a lid on the population. So they take a kicking and keep on - well - kicking.
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Yes, and the gun itself is cheap, while the ammo is expensive.

Ideal if you arent going to use it much.
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I didn't know the USA had any gun laws, I thought it was just a big free-for-all

Oh, they do. I just finished reading a crime novel where the rules and regs surrounding gun purchase were discussed. But laws about guns don't really constrain attitudes about guns. Any fuckwit with a chip on his shoulder who can get a gun and some bullets still thinks it helps to balance the scales if he goes out and shoots a few people. Here's the latest horror:

Children among 27 dead in Connecticut school shooting

Twenty children and six adults have been killed in a shooting attack at a primary school in the US state of Connecticut, police say.
Lt Paul Vance said the gunman was also dead, but did not identify him.

However, officials told US media the killer at Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, was a 20-year-old son of a teacher at the school.
Newtown is now one of the worst school shootings in US history, after 32 died at Virginia Tech in 2007.

Early reports named 24-year-old Ryan Lanza as the gunman, but anonymous officials later said his brother Adam, 20, was the suspect.
Ryan Lanza was being questioned by police, the Associated Press and New York Times reported.

Lt Vance said 18 children were pronounced dead at the school, and two died after they were taken to hospital. Six adults were also killed. The gunman died at the scene.
According to US reports, the gunman's mother was a teacher found among the dead at the school.

One person was also injured, and police were investigating a "secondary" crime scene, where another victim was found dead, Lt Vance said.
He gave no details, but said New Jersey police were providing assistance

Dressed in black and wearing a bullet-proof vest, the gunman is thought to have had several weapons at the school, although it is not clear whether he used more than one.
The attack took place in two rooms within a single section of the school, police have said.

Night has fallen in Newtown, and school officials announced that a memorial service would take place at 19:00 EST (00:00 GMT).

Friday's shooting is the third major gun attack in the US in 2012.
In July an attacker killed 12 people at a premiere of a Batman film in Aurora, Colorado. In August six people died at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin.
Just this week two people died in a shooting at a shopping mall in the state of Oregon.

At the White House, an emotional President Barack Obama cited those incidents as he called for "meaningful action... regardless of politics".
"Our hearts are broken today, for the parents, grandparents, sisters and brothers of these children, and for the families of the adults who were lost."
Mr Obama offered condolences to the families of survivors too, saying "their children's innocence has been torn away from them too early, and there are no words that will ease their pain".
He wiped tears from his eyes as he spoke of the "overwhelming grief" at the loss of life.

Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy called the attack a "tragedy of unspeakable terms", saying "you can never be prepared" for an event like this.
He spoke after spending the day visiting the victims' families.

The American flags on Capitol Hill in Washington DC have been lowered to half-mast in the wake of the attack.

Police arrived at the school soon after 09:40 local time (14:40 GMT), answering reports that a gunman was in the school's main office and one person had "numerous gunshot wounds".

One witness speaking to CNN said that shots were heard coming from the hall. There "must have been 100 rounds" fired, she told the channel.
Local media have reported that firefighters instructed children to close their eyes and run past the school's office as they exited the building.

Scores of officers at the scene carried out a full search of the site. Classes were cancelled as the situation developed.

Sandy Hook Schol - described by correspondents as a highly rated school has more than 600 students in classes from Kindergarten to 4th Grade - spanning the ages five to 10.

Schools across the district were immediately on lock-down as a preventive measure, officials said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20730717
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Connecticut school shooting: the tragedy at Sandy Hook could force Obama to act on gun control
The images from Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut are depressingly familiar.
By Alex Spilius
8:28PM GMT 14 Dec 2012

Distraught children and teachers running from horrendous scenes. Anxious parents trying to find loved ones. Armed police responding, too late. Normality pierced by brutality.

There is local misery and mourning and - if the death toll is great enough - national anguish.
But for the past decade or so there has been virtually no debate about tightening controls on gun ownership.
Thanks to Americans’ unwavering belief in the right to own firearms, enshrined in the second amendment, and the growing power of the gun lobby, led by the National Rifle Association, reform has effectively been off the agenda.

In 2004, a ten-year national ban on assault weapons expired, and since then even Democrats who have wanted to push for its renewal have been scared off by the prospect of losing their seats.

Even after the worst gun massacre at Virginia Tech University in 2007, that claimed 32 lives, the argument was more about carrying weapons on campus, or psychological checks.

When Jared Loughner killed six in an attack on congressman Gabrielle Giffords in early 2011, defenders of gun rights made the familiar argument that it was people, not weapons, who killed.

During Barack Obama’s presidency, the Supreme Court struck down attempts by Washington DC and Chicago to ban handguns.
This shooting could be different. The dead include large numbers of children.

Mr Obama does not have re-election to worry about and may feel able to introduce the sort of restrictions that he has never had the political leverage to implement. Gun control supporters emerged with unusual swiftness last night, staging a rally in front of the White House under the the rallying cry: “Today is the Day”.
Michael Bloomberg, the Mayor of New York, demanded that Washington break the familiar routine of shock and sympathy but no policy movement
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The assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan in 1981 led to the so-called Brady Bill, which instituted federal background checks on firearm purchasers.

At the very least the state of Connecticut could pass tighter laws, but it is one of the easiest places to own a gun in the liberal north-east.
No state permit is required to purchase or possess rifles or shotguns. NBC News reported last night that, as with the Colorado cinema killing, all the weapons were purchased legally
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A British woman interviewed on Friday who lives in Newtown, but whose young children attend another school, said that the only good that could possibly come out of the horror was that something will finally be done. Some Americans will be feeling the same. The question is how many.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9746511/Connecticut-school-shooting-the-tragedy-at-Sandy-Hook-could-force-Obama-to-act-on-gun-control.html
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Gun control laws are just a single strand of the tangled ball: various American states and other nations have had loose (in fact looser) gun-control laws in the past than today - indeed Britain did in the 20s - and yet there weren't college, cinema, school and shopping-mall massacres with anthing even vaguely approaching the seemingly inexorable regularity with which they occur in the U.S. today.

One question is certainly "Should we allow people access to dangerous weapons?', but a more fundamental one is surely: "Why do an increasing number of citizens want to kill as many strangers as possible?"
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