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PostPosted: 21-08-2001 02:07    Post subject: Satanic Abuse Rumbles On? Reply with quote

Satanic Abuse? Thought this one was long dead and put down to
overheated social workers fuelled on US horror tales.

The following however appeared in the Middleton Guardian
in July of this year. [**Actually it appeared on 27th July, 2000 - the
site has a somewhat confusing layout and this appeared in the
column headed July 2001. So it may not be strictly news, but
may still be found curious.**]

http://www.middleton-online.co.uk/LocalNews/BackIssuesMonths/July.htm


‘SATANIC ABUSE’ VICTIM REFUSED CHILD ACCESS
by DAVE EDWARDS
A DECADE on, the misery created by the notorious Langley “satanic abuse” case seems set to continue, affecting another generation.
One of the 17 children “snatched” by police and social services has been told he can’t have overnight access to his seven-month old son because of allegations made when he himself was made a ward of court in 1990.
The 23 year-old is concerned about repercussions which might affect his children, so the Guardian has agreed to use just his first name – David - in our report.
David was 13 when the police and welfare workers swooped on his Langley home and took him into care.  He was returned home almost three months later when the allegations were shown to be untrue.
But he’s now been told by his solicitor that the ex-girlfriend is refusing to allow him overnight contact with the child.
The letter from the ex-partner’s solicitor says that she recently found out he had been in care because of “allegations made against your family’s involvement in the ritual abuse case in Langley some years ago”.
David added that in the last three weeks, he had seen his son for just half an hour – and that was standing on a doorstep in Rochdale.
He says he’s even more determined to fight on for the access he believes he and his child deserve. “The injustice of ten years ago now seems to be responsible for another injustice against me and my child. It can’t be allowed to happen.”


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PostPosted: 21-08-2001 17:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

By no means is satanic abuse deads, nor is it over-hyped by the media... just open any news paper, and you'll get all the evidence to suppost this that anyone could ever want.
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PostPosted: 21-08-2001 18:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goddess! That's really depressing reading. So the real 'multi-generational' abusers are Social Services!

I suppose its a reminder that after we Forteans have had our fun with the phenomena of the day and moved on, the people who actually experienced it still live with the repurcussions.
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PostPosted: 21-08-2001 21:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what really happened with this supposed "Satanic Abuse"?

A bunch of American "evangelical" social workers came over to the UK about ten years ago & gave a spiel, with the result that a lot of kids were grabbed off of one of the Scotish Islands & were later returned after there were claims that the local priest dressed as a turtle & he & others abused them!!! (This was at the time when Ninja Turtles were popular). None of these claims were ever proved & most of the children involved retractet their statements.

About the same time, in Pembrokeshire, a further bunch of people were charged with supposed "Satanic Abuse" & later convicted, their conviction defies belief!!! They were accused of holding satanic rituals in council garages!!! Ever seen the size of a council garage? You can hardly get a decent car in one, let alone hold a satanic ritual!!!!

This is the only supposededly "proven" case of "satanic abuse" in the UK, but still this rubbish goes on!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: 02-09-2001 21:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linked to the above topic, dooes anybody remember a channel 4 documentary shown possibly in the early 90's that 'uncovered'
evidence of SRA. The one thing that sticks in my mind is a reporter breaking into some kind of garage owned by an abuser and breathlessly opening drawers where she found child porn and a dildo....It was all very dangerous looking and it made me take SRA allegations seriously. I have since heard that the whole thing was faked.....is this true...due to the topic matter if it was faked it was a pretty sick thing to do.....
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PostPosted: 02-09-2001 22:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have vague recollections of a tv documentary by the feminist
writer Bea. Campbell. I doubt if she would like it repeated.

Can't recollect her dildo or even the lines of her argument.

But it was something along the lines of how we must listen to
the children. Yup, like Salem just needed to listen to its kids more!

I do recall a graveyard location where she was pointing
to some pentangles scrawled on the wall. Signs of serious
Goth infestation? Evidence of turtle-headed abusing high priests
was somewhat thinner.

Idea: they were not turtles but Ickean lizards ahead of their time?

Incidentally a site called religioustolerance or something similar
has a page where it describes the phenomenon as a panic that
gripped a number of countries at the period. It was traced in all
cases to the immature social worker types who were attending
seminars on this new cause for concern. International Conferences were
spreading the word like a virus. Dead / drunk


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PostPosted: 03-09-2001 12:42    Post subject: Satanic Bogeyman Still Alive! Reply with quote

I was fairly convinced that the "pedophile outside the school gates" had replaced the evil Satanist as the bogeyman for the milennium until I ran across this story in The Times:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001296340,00.html

Despite being allegedly liberal The Times has always been a sensationalist paper - I remember when they ran an expose on the evils of rock music that resulted in my mother throwing out my brother's Guns and Roses albums for fear of him comitting suicide or being snared by 'dark forces'! The article in the link is similar, focusing on the teenage flirtation with the occult that films like the Craft and Buffy have brought about, but it makes some bizarre claims such as:

"Experts believe that there are now more than 1,000 cults operating in Britain and that their popularity has spread through the Internet. They are becoming adept at snaring young professionals through so-called self-help websites — for stopping smoking, losing weight, meeting a partner or playing the stock market."

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PostPosted: 03-09-2001 14:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Whitehead wrote:

I have vague recollections of a tv documentary by the feminist
writer Bea. Campbell. I doubt if she would like it repeated.

Yes, I remember that program very well. Most of it was Bea Campbell poking around in a Nottingham graveyard where there were caves and tunnels. They had obviously been used by winos etc. and had all sorts or stuff scrawled on the walls. She also got into a locked storeroom room in the cemetary where she went poking through some drawers and found some bits of rubbish that the cematery keepers had found and stored away - a dildo (horrified gasp) was included, plus (even more horrified gasping) a council leaflet on fostering Eek Eek !
In another part of the program we were shown parts of a diary kept by a child who had supposedly be satanically abused - it included drawings of witches Eek Eek and a very good drawing of the MUFC demon mascot; these were held to be proof positive that the child had indeed be ther victim of satanists!
One particular part of the show which I found rather sinister was a very lengthy scene in which they had a small girl going around these places with a camera following her. The camera was placed close to ground level and constantly behind her, looking right up at her buttocks - and she was dressed in a pair of very tight little shorts. This was a totally unnessesary camera position - they could have just shown her feet or something - but it must have delighted any watching paedophiles.Mad
I doubt very much if Campbell wants to be reminded of it - she's said very little on the subject of Satanic ASbuse in the last two or three years.


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PostPosted: 03-09-2001 20:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too noticed the strange factoid in the Times about "over 1000 cults in the UK". It doesn't add that most of these cults are Christian based.
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PostPosted: 03-09-2001 21:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for helping me track down that documentary, there have been times when I could have sworn I dreamt the whole thing.......don't you just love these messageboards??????Smile
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PostPosted: 09-09-2001 17:02    Post subject: Lest We Forget Reply with quote

Musician/artist/cultural innovator Genesis P. Orage, of 'Throbbing Gristle' & 'Psychic TV' fame, was forced into exile from the UK when a TV 'documentary' showed clips from some of his experimental/avante garde videos and claimed that they were evidence of SRA. Police raids, fear that his kids would be taken into care, etc., etc..........

And did the b*st*rds concerned ever apologise - was he compensated? What do you think?
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PostPosted: 09-09-2001 18:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a psychiatric nurse I have never encountered a case of SRA, although I can assure you (as if you needed to be told) that CSA is an awful reality for many many people.

Given that it is not (despite opinions which seemingly dispute this) physically impossible for a person to engage in an abusive 'satanic' ritual, one wonders if the media hype about the topic has put the idea into any nasty little minds Eek Eek

And as for bleeding heart, woolly minded social workers... just don't get me started!Hmph
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PostPosted: 09-09-2001 18:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone is interested, there is lots of archived info and articles on the SRA panic on two sites: Satanic Media Watch at http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc44406/smwane/
and
SAFF at www.saff.connectfree.co.uk
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PostPosted: 10-09-2001 10:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another point that's occured to me on the subject of SRA:
This (alleged) practice involves lots of sexual activity with large numbers of people, injections, cutting, blood-letting, blood-drinking and much ingestion of other bodily fluids. So, when social workers kidnapped - sorry, took into care, children they sincerely believed to be involved in these activities, did they have these kids tested for STDs, hepatitis and HIV?
If they did, what were the results? If they didn't, why???
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PostPosted: 10-09-2001 13:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I remember they used the incredibly scientific test of noting that a SRA childs buttocks clenched when an object was placed near said buttocks.( For christs sake, wouldn't yours?????). This test was supposed to be indicitive of unnatural practices......the whole affair still makes my blood boil........Mad
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